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Nableezy
No action taken on the complaint. Closing this before I have to ban a bunch of people from AE. T. Canens (talk) 18:46, 24 June 2011 (UTC) |
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Request concerning Nableezy
What the hell? A discussion I had with Nableezy (talk · contribs) on Sean.hoyland (talk · contribs)'s Talk page finally petered out after dragging on for two weeks. Hardly do three days go by and I have to read him accusing me of having developed a "batshit insane obsession" with his edits. I made minor and uncontroversial modifications to two of User:Nableezy's edits, and that's the kind of feedback I get subjected to. AGK (talk · contribs) was unequivocal in demanding that Nableezy cultivate a professional demeanor when he vacated Nableezy's account restriction prematurely less than two weeks ago. I asked him to keep in mind those terms a few days ago when I felt he was close to crossing the line. Not only is Nableezy making no effort to be civil but he's showing every indication of continuing to be an aggressive, vulgar and overall negative influence on the Project.—Biosketch (talk) 15:59, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
@Tarc (talk · contribs), this is the second time you've accused me of sockpuppetry without offering a shred of evidence other than the color of my username and the fact that many of my edits are in the I/P topic area. Do you not yet realize how hypocritical your accusation is? or do you realize your accusation is hypocritical but pray no one else'll pick up on the hypocrisy? Then let me spell it out for the benefit of those who may have missed it: Nableezy (talk · contribs) is redlinked and the preponderance of his edits in the I/P topic area far exceeds mine, yet User:Tarc's accusation of sockpuppetry is directed exclusively at me. No matter – I expected nothing less from you than baseless inconsistent biased and prejudiced accusations.—Biosketch (talk) 09:26, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
Discussion concerning NableezyStatement by Nableezy"batshit insane obsession" were the words used by another editor, not me. I quoted them. Biosketch has indeed followed me to some articles. I dont really have a problem with his edits, though I do with the idea that it is fair game to go through another editor's contributions on a regular basis. Also, this happened where exactly? A user talk page? Is there any indication that I have made any uncivil or otherwise disruptive edits on article talk pages? No, of course not. But I emphatically deny that attributed a "batshit insane obsession" to Biosketch. I, playfully, quoted another user applying that term to somebody else and made a word (Nableezitis) and applied that to an unnamed editor. But it is demonstrably true that Biosketch has gone through my contributions to follow me to multiple articles. A word to him that he cease doing so would be most appreciated. But to show just how what this "battlefield mentality" that you all keep talking about, this user is taking a comment made on a user talk page and asking for an article topic ban. He could have asked that I strike the quote, he could have ignored the comments made on a user talk page. But he instead chooses to come here. There is no problem with any edit I have made to articles or article talk pages. This is purely an attempt to use an unrelated, and I might dare say something that is not covered under ARBPIA, incident to remove an editor that Biosketch disagrees with from the topic area. To underline the main point here, Biosketch is asking that I be removed from editing articles and talk pages on the basis that I made a comment he disliked on a user talk page. And the part of the comment that he takes issue with, which leads him to make the unsubstantiated assertion that I am "aggressive, vulgar, and overall negative influence on the Project", werent even my words. nableezy - 16:58, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
Tarc, I think you are mistaken. nableezy - 23:36, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
Boris, due respect, but this page is not the problem. The problem is the editors who feel the need to involve themselves in every single enforcement request that involves certain users. The problem is the repeated unfounded accusations. Those problems can, and should, be solved. nableezy - 18:42, 24 June 2011 (UTC) Comments by others about the request concerning NableezyI find it hard to attach much credibility to any complaint filed by a redlink-name account, one that has only existed since February of this year, and had edited almost exclusively in the Israeli/Palestine/Arab/Middle East topic area. The Enforcement page here is routinely used to game the system, where socks return again and again to try to get their wiki-adversaries in trouble, and evasive non-answers such as this are troubling. Tarc (talk) 16:35, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
Biosketch's actions here are an utter joke and he should be sanctioned for his battlefield mentality editing and AE filing. Nableezy says a borderline offensive statement, Biosketch asks for a topic ban of the entire I/P area. The now topic banned AgadaUrbanit adds a nasty barnstar to Sean.hoyland's talk page , Biosketch responds by taking matter, not directly to AE as he has done here, but to AgadaUrbanit's talkpage with the reasonsing that he probably has just sat in the sun too long or somebody hacked is computer. Is it not clear to the admins on this case that Biosketch is just trying to get Nableezy banned by any means possible, does that not constitute battlefield mentality? Again -- utter joke. -asad (talk) 17:13, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
= Comment by BorisGDearadmins. Clearly, this page has become part of the problem rather than part of the solution. It propagates drama. Something needs to be done. - BorisG (talk) 17:37, 24 June 2011 (UTC) Result concerning Nableezy
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Anythingyouwant
Attention: This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below.
Request concerning Anythingyouwant
- User who is submitting this request for enforcement
- MastCell 21:04, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
- User against whom enforcement is requested
- Anythingyouwant (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Sanction or remedy to be enforced
- Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Ferrylodge#Ferrylodge restricted
- Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it
Anythingyouwant (talk · contribs) is Ferrylodge (talk · contribs). In Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Ferrylodge, ArbCom found that: "Ferrylodge has a long history of disruptive editing on topics related to pregnancy and abortion, but has edited reasonably on unrelated topics." As a result, Ferrylodge/Anythingyouwant is under an indefinite restriction against disrupting "any article which relates to pregnancy or abortion, interpreted broadly."
Abortion is currently subject to community-imposed 1RR. Anythingyouwant has reverted twice in the past 3 days:
Both times he's cited WP:BRD, but to this point he has not actually discussed either revert on the talk page (his last substantive contribution to Talk:Abortion was 1 month ago).
I think that repeatedly reverting a contentious article, citing WP:BRD but not actually discussing, is disruptive even though the reverts are slightly outside the official 24-hour window for 1RR. Given the pre-existing findings from the ArbCom case about Anythingyouwant's disruptive editing on abortion-related topics, I've brought this here.
- Diffs of notifications or of prior warnings against the conduct objected to (if required)
- Anythingyouwant is aware of this sanction; previous requests for enforcement have been filed, and he petitioned (unsuccessfully) to have it lifted. No formal warning is required by the ArbCom sanction.
- Enforcement action requested (block, topic ban or other sanction)
- Topic ban from abortion (plus or minus related articles), as the ArbCom-prescribed remedy.
- Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested
Discussion concerning Anythingyouwant
Statement by Anythingyouwant
I made two reverts to the article over the course of three days. My edit summaries were as follows:
(1) "Revert per WP:BRD. Pastel Kitten is correct that this longstanding image was edit-warred out of this article without consensus. Many reasons were given by many editors for keeping it."
(2) "Revert per WP:BRD. No one has asserted there is consensus to remove this longstanding image. Many reasons were given by many editors for keeping it."
MastCell apparently does not assert that I have misapplied WP:BRD, and I was not misapplying it. As MastCell knows, there was extensive discussion at the article talk page about this content issue last month. MastCell was deeply involved in that discussion, and he favored removing an image that was in the article for well over a year. There was no consensus to remove the image at that time, but the image was nevertheless edit-warred out of the article, contrary to WP:BRD. Another editor (not myself) reinserted the image this week.
My edit-summaries (quoted above) were thorough and self-explanatory. No editors who seek removal of the longstanding image have commented about their recent removal at the article talk page. Despite the lack of discussion at the article talk page, I did edit the talk page today to more fully explain why I reverted them (inserting template).
Please note that there was a huge RFC on this topic in 2009 here. This RFC is linked in the FAQ at the top of the article talk page. All I was doing here is implementing WP:BRD, I did not come anywhere close to violating 1RR, and I reverted two edits that were unexplained at the article talk page.Anythingyouwant (talk) 21:51, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
- The image has again been edit-warred out of the article today without consensus or talk page discussion, which apparently is fine with MastCell and other admins. After the present attempt to delete the image from Commons is concluded, I will probably bring this matter up again at the article talk page, and restore the image to the article (pending consensus for its removal).Anythingyouwant (talk) 23:16, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
Comments by others about the request concerning Anythingyouwant
What a weird sanction! I thought ALL wikipedians are under indefinite restrictions from disrupting ANY articles... - BorisG (talk) 00:51, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
Seems that 2 reverts over three days does not violate 1RR in any case ... this is a content dispute, and not a case where AYW should be punished for actually staying within the restrictions given. Nor can I view the edits as "disruptive". Please - keep content disputes out of AE. Cheers. Collect (talk) 16:37, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- Most disruptive editing centers around a content dispute. The two categories aren't mutually exclusive. MastCell 01:36, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
Result concerning Anythingyouwant
- This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the section above.
Hmm. It is true that this edit restores a contentious image; however, as far as I could tell in reading Talk:Abortion/Archive_41#Picture_of_abortion, there's no consensus on its removal, either. Anythingyouwant did fail to start the conversation again at the talk page, though. I am unwilling to enforce action against Anythingyouwant as disruptive (because I don't consider it to be disruptive), and he in theory didn't violate 1RR/day. If it were up to me, I'd rather force additional discussion on the image yet again. - Penwhale | 07:27, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
Cptnono
Attention: This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below.
Request concerning Cptnono
- User who is submitting this request for enforcement
- Nableezy (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) at 19:28, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
- User against whom enforcement is requested
- Cptnono (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Sanction or remedy to be enforced
- WP:ARBPIA#Discretionary sanctions
- Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it
- 06:48, 22 June 2011 Tendentious editing, hounding
- 05:32, 24 June 2011 Tendentious editing
- 05:43, 24 June 2011 Personal attack, accusation of socking without evidence
- 06:02, 24 June 2011 Personal attack. Here he admits he has no evidence for the accusation, but proceeds to repeat it
- 05:36, 24 June 2011 Personal attack.
- Diffs of notifications or of prior warnings against the conduct objected to (if required)
- Blocked by AGK for violations of NPA
- Enforcement action requested (block, topic ban or other sanction)
Interaction ban, topic ban
- Additional comments by editor filing complaint
Cptnono has repeatedly hounded my contributions to follow me to articles where he was not involved to revert my edits. There are numerous examples of this, and he has in the past admitted to doing so to "keep me in line". One such example is Golan Heights Wind Farm, where Cptnono performs, as his first and only edit to either the article or talk page, a revert of an edit by me shortly after I edit the page. This is exactly what happened at Dahiya doctrine. After I revert an IP who had tagged the article without cause, Cptnono follows me there and reverts me as his very first edit to either the article or talk page. When Cptnono is asked to, instead of immediately tagging the article, edit the article to correct any issues that he might see, he refuses to do so. He later re-reverts to place the tag once again on the article. He has yet to actually say what he would like to add, only saying that some unknown source is not used properly and that the article is "POV". This is tendentious editing, the purpose of which is to goad other editors in to an edit war over a tag. This is not simply my opinion of what happened, in this edit to a user's talk page he taunts other editors and dares them to revert him so that he can go to AE. In sum, Cptnono hounded my contributions to revert me, then said he was not interested in even attempting to address any POV issues that may be there, and then attempts to goad others in to reverting him. This series of edits shows that he is simply playing games here.
Cptnono has also made repeated accusations against me about socking. He has not once produced a single thread of evidence to support such a serious charge, but he has repeated it multiple times on this very page. In the above diffs, Cptnono says that he does not have any evidence for the charge, but repeats it anyway. He has done this in the past, (example here and refusing to substantiate the accusation here). According to WP:NPA, accusations made without evidence are personal attacks. The policy says, in the section "What is considered to be a personal attack?", Accusations about personal behavior that lack evidence. Serious accusations require serious evidence. This is among the most serious accusations that an editor can make here, and repeatedly making it without providing any evidence at all, even admitting that there is no evidence at all, is highly inappropriate.
This editor has repeatedly leveled serious charges against others without once providing evidence. He has repeatedly hounded my contributions to involve himself in disputes simply because I am already there. He has repeatedly reverted to restore tags to articles despite never even attempting to edit the article to address whatever issues he claims exist, and indeed has rebuffed requests that he do so. He has attempted to goad others into edit-warring, with the explicitly expressed objective of bring others "down with Nableezy" here at AE. These generally tendentious actions would not, by themselves, cause me to make this request. But combined, they demonstrate that Cptnono is editing with the purpose of annoying me and goading me in to doing something so that his years long campaign to have me banned succeeds.
I realize that one-sided interaction bans are disliked by admins with good cause, and while I do not feel that I have done anything to merit any type of ban being placed on me with regard to Cptnono, if that is what it takes to have this never ending stream of asinine accusations and repeated tendentious hounding of my edits stop then so be it.
- Boris, Cptnono has done this multiple times. And as you wrote, I objected to the accusations above at the time they were made. If Biosketch wishes he can ask that Tarc stop making such accusations without providing evidence, and if Tarc persists he may then seek administrative relief from such unsubstantiated charges. I have repeatedly requested that Cptnono cease making accusations without providing any evidence, yet he persists. Additionally, the hounding by Cptnono has gone from a mere annoyance to disruption, as he is involving himself in articles where he either has no interest of editing or is literally too drunk to do so. If you would like to raise the issue of Tarc making such accusations you are free to do so in any number of venues. It is however completely irrelevant here. I am not Tarc, I am not responsible for him, and what he says does not in any way excuse Cptnono's repeated unsubstantiated and unfounded accusations. nableezy - 05:40, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
Some of these comments below are simply unbelievable. Cptnono's every edit is scrutinized????? He has "enemies waiting in ambush to pounce"?????? Truly astonishing. As far as I know, not a single editor has ever hounded Cptnono, and not a single time has an unmerited enforcement request against him been filed. He has repeatedly hounded my contributions, not the other way around. He has repeatedly made malicious charges without ever providing a single bit of evidence for them, not the other way around. Many of the below comments do only one thing; that is they demonstrate that this page needs to do away with the comments by involved editors. Cptnono has repeatedly made serious accusations without ever providing evidence for them. He has repeatedly hounded my contributions and edited in a tendentious fashion when doing so. See his conduct in the diffs above at the Dahiya doctine article, accompanied by his drunken ranting at Sean.hoyland's talk page. I have held my tongue in giving anything resembling an honest critique of Cptnono, despite repeated provocations by him in which he has made blatantly dishonest accusations against me and edited with the sole purpose of annoying me. I await a response to the actual issues involved here from an uninvolved admin. nableezy - 05:50, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested
Discussion concerning Cptnono
Statement by Cptnono
If Nableezy wants me to stop commenting on him at AE he should stop getting himself in trouble.
I do have a hard time interacting with Nableezy since he is the catalyst to so many problems. I just don't edit war with him and that is why I am still around while others are not. I try not to seek him out exclusively but he makes it pretty hard when I want the topic area to not be garbage (note the centralized discussion I started).
If an interaction ban is the decision then I am cool with it. However, I don't think it is feasible. We edit too many of the same articles. I would prefer a limited interaction ban (basically a final warning) but I would also be OK with an interaction ban as long as it is lifted when he is topic banned again since all interaction is based in one topic area. When he is topic banned again I don;t think I should have any restrictions.
No matter what, no interaction ban is appropriate without a waiver on Gaza War (it was getting a little less combative until he came back, BTW) since there is an ongoing discussion.Cptnono (talk) 07:48, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
And I don;t need to comment on the sock thing. My comment was clear and he chose to take offence. Cptnono (talk) 07:48, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
And my laptop does not have a breathalizer. At least I am only a jerk when drunk and not a POV pusher. Chucgging a handful right now, friends (see, I am honest about it :) ). Cptnono (talk) 07:51, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- Hold on a second Biosketch: Don't let my love for the most drinkable garbage beer lead you to believe that I don't like a handful from a good microbrew at happy hour. I am from Seattle after all :)
- @Peter: I don't understand your questions exactly. So I will clarify my point:" I think Nableezy is only back for a short time since I assume he will continue to get himself in trouble. So basically I don;t want to have some weird interaction ban hanging over me based on the principle of it. If he is booted again I want to be in the clear so that there isn't some weird scarlet letter on me. And yes, Gaza War oddly enough since it is not feasible to have us both work on the article if e cannot talk to each other. But maybe this is why we should have ARBPIA3. I will be bounced for a bit for my history of incivility (the report above does not show that but a history will kill me) while a history of pushing a POV and edit warring will rip out the real trouble makers. I am a jerk but I don't cause the other issues that permeate the topic area.
- Overall, why is this AE still open. I do not deserve the time to be perfectly frank. Been here enough and know how it works. I do appreciate the comments since there is a good blend of constructive criticism and plain niceness. Cptnono (talk) 06:18, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
Comments by others about the request concerning Cptnono
- I think an interaction ban would be a very good idea. I'm not sure Cptnono has crossed the line into topic ban territory, but he's dancing very close to it. And he would be wise not to edit while intoxicated. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 19:53, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
- There seems little point in sanctioning Cptnono. His comments here make it clear he will simply cheat the system in order to circumvent actions taken against him. Note the lines: "…Now how about a cycle my IP... If I ever get blocked for a longer amount of time I will certainly go for it…" Prunesqualer (talk) 22:30, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
- That's a good point, and anyway "having to be Cptnono" is probably a lot worse punishment than anything we can do here. Herostratus (talk) 15:19, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- Personal attacks are rare in AE comments. Well done! Can we please have this request closed, before more people exercise their sense of humor? --ElComandanteChe (talk) 17:14, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- Speaking of the system, I would have thought your topic ban kept you from commenting on an ARBPIA request. Or am I mixing you up with someone else? --JGGardiner (talk) 17:53, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- Who are you referring to? I don't think that anyone commenting here is under a relevant topic ban. RolandR (talk) 18:37, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
Prunesqualer is indefed from PI area.--ElComandanteChe (talk) 22:17, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- Who are you referring to? I don't think that anyone commenting here is under a relevant topic ban. RolandR (talk) 18:37, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- That's a good point, and anyway "having to be Cptnono" is probably a lot worse punishment than anything we can do here. Herostratus (talk) 15:19, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- I know some editors view interaction bans as punishments, while others welcome them, so I'd like to hear Cptnono's thoughts on an interaction ban with Nableezy before I comment further. ← George 00:25, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- Having heard back from Cptnono, I'd say I support an interaction ban. While Nableezy and Cptnono may have opposing viewpoints, I think the real problem is what they have in common with each other: neither particularly cares for bullshit, but they both can keep up (and don't back down) if you bring it. I don't know if that's a character flaw or a commendable trait - possibly both - but when you line them up against each other it can get a bit ugly. Maybe give an interaction ban a shot and see if it helps calm the waters? I think it would be more constructive than throwing topic bans at otherwise productive contributors anyways (productivity being irrespective of whether or not you agree with their viewpoints). My two cents. ← George 23:11, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- Agree with Malik Shabazz that at this point an interaction ban would be a good idea; Misplaced Pages is not a battleground, regardless of whether or not you've enjoyed a few too many chelas; if an interaction ban does not improve the situation, there may be a need for more draconian steps. -- nsaum75 01:02, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- I do not support accusations without evidence, but Cptnono's latest statements about Nableezy were made in the context of another editor making such allegations against Biosketch . Nableezy disagreed with these allegations . However, omission of this context by Nableezy here is itself highly tendentious. - BorisG (talk) 04:45, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- From Cptnono's post yesterday to Sean Hoyland's talk page: "no need to pretend anymore. you are in the topic area for on reason and one reason only. you flew under the radar and it was cute but don't pretend to be neutral. you are a funny guy who does make good edits but leave the vandalism fighting to those who actually care about the project and neutrality." I know how easy it is to feel frustrated and cynical with those who oppose one's usual POV in so controversial an area, but it's important to recognize the need for a break when that frustration exceeds easily manageable limits. – OhioStandard (talk) 13:49, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- I don't know who needs a break, but I recommend that Cptnono be reminded not to comment on users, only on edits. This may also be good advice to some other participants here. I am not referring to comments made here, of course, since this page is largely about editor conduct. - BorisG (talk) 18:21, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- Cptnono chooses to edit in a very very difficult area (I can only every dip in and out) and I have always respected his editing. Maybe we all lose our way now and again but I would ask that you take it easy on him as I for one believe he is an asset to this project. BTW Cptnono we all need to take a break now and again. Bjmullan (talk) 21:01, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- Nableezy = pot calling the kettle black. I.e. Nobody has any basis for seeking to sanction me on AE but I'll go out of my way with a weak case to get everyone else sanctioned. Yawn. Moveon.org. Plot Spoiler (talk) 17:10, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- My thoughts exactly. And Herostratus (talk · contribs) makes a valid point: Cptnono (talk · contribs) wears uncomfortable shoes in the I/P topic area, and few of us would want or be able to walk in them for very long. His every edit is scrutinized with an electron microscope, and he has enemies waiting in ambush to pounce on his every uncrossed t or undotted i. He should probably keep booze and Misplaced Pages at least an hour apart, and it wouldn't hurt to switch from that Miller crap he drinks to some quality European brews.—Biosketch (talk) 03:47, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- An undotted i might not seem like a big deal. But you have to remember that in WP you really have to go out of your way to do it. I think you'd have to screw around with the CSS actually. So when you see an I/P editor make a big effort to cause a small dustup it can be pretty upsetting. --JGGardiner (talk) 07:38, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- On the other hand, I did say this during a recent Nableezy AE discussion so it is probably fair that I repeat it now: What do you do in Chinatown? As little as possible. --JGGardiner (talk) 07:48, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
- I have decent relations with both editors and think they have both made useful contributions. An interaction ban may be the best way to go. However, I have a couple of questions for Cptnono about the exceptions he proposes. If Nableezy gets blocked for being rude or for edit warring on one article, why does that suddenly mean that his edits elsewhere become so bad that your interaction ban shoudl be dropped. Surely if they were that poor someoen else is likely to want to revert them? Also why an exception for Gaza War? Surely where you both feel strongly is where you are most likely to clash.--Peter cohen (talk) 23:30, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
Result concerning Cptnono
- This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the section above.
As I have previously opined, I am concerned that we are so often seeing requests for enforcement that relate to the Arab-Israeli conflict. Specifically, the unceasing tit-for-tat enforcement requests and endless editing only of articles about P/I by most editors is worrying, and the situation is generally unsustainable. After much reflection, my view is that we must topic-ban the major contributors to this subject area irrespective of the seriousness of their own misconduct, because the alternative would be to refer the dispute to arbitration for ARBPIA 3 - where many would be topic-banned anyway. Some of these editors make constructive editors, but the aggregate of their contributions is that the P/I topic is a complete mess, and a topic ban must therefore be the lesser of two evils. To put my thinking into an image: if the primary editors of a contested topic area are youths in a town with high anti-social behaviour, then my suggestion is to instate a curfew of all 12-17 year olds, irrespective of whether they spend their nights spray-painting walls or diligently doing their homework. To employ the tactic of liberally topic-banning is crude, but would work as a last-ditch attempt to improve behaviour on P/I articles, and I invite comment from other uninvolved administrators on the matter.
With regards to the specific request for enforcement, I concur that it has become counter-productive to permit Cptnono and Nableezy to interact. The following sanctions are passed, effective immediately, per WP:ARBPIA2#Discretionary sanctions:
- Cptnono banned from interacting with Nableezy for 6 months
Cptnono (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is prohibited for 6 months (until 27 December 2011) from interacting with Nableezy (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), in accordance with the standard interaction ban detailed at Misplaced Pages:Banning policy#Interaction ban. Cptnono may not:
- Edit any page within Nableezy's user or user talk space;
- Reply to Nableezy in any discussion;
- Make reference to or comment on Nableezy, directly or indirectly, on any page; or
- Undo any edit by Nableezy to any page except his own user or user talk pages (by any means, including the rollback function).
In accordance with this restriction, Cptnono may also not submit a request for arbitration enforcement that concerns Nableezy.
- Nableezy banned from interacting with Cptnono for 6 months
Nableezy (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is prohibited for 6 months (until 27 December 2011) from interacting with Cptnono (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), in accordance with the standard interaction ban detailed at Misplaced Pages:Banning policy#Interaction ban. Nableezy may not:
- Edit any page within Cptnono's user or user talk space;
- Reply to Cptnono in any discussion;
- Make reference to or comment on Cptnono, directly or indirectly, on any page; or
- Undo any edit by Cptnono to any page except his own user or user talk pages (by any means, including the rollback function).
In accordance with this restriction, Nableezy may also not submit a request for arbitration enforcement that concerns Cptnono.
I will leave this request for enforcement open, to allow any comment on my preliminary remarks about avoiding ARBPIA3 by the more frequent use of extended topic-bans. AGK 22:20, 27 June 2011 (UTC)