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reply to email

Concerning the editor you emailed me about, I see no reason to waste time on the matter if there are no further edits from the account. Regards, Looie496 (talk) 23:10, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi.
I very appreciate your efforts for unblocking me. After my last appeal was declined on 18/10/2010, I have become so desperate of Misplaced Pages, so I hadn't been checking my user account for few months and didn't notice I was unblocked only few days later. Megaidler (talk) 19:29, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Witnessing history

Standing amongst a crowd demanding Mubarak's downfall, a man who commanded Egypt's Air Force against Israel, with occasional chanting of anti-Israel slogans, and overlooked by crewmen in the very same Patton tanks and M113 carriers the Egyptian army fought against, I couldn't help but feel history imposing its irony in the scene before me.

I guess I'm writing this here because given our knowledge of this region's recent history – however colliding our perspectives may be – I believed you'd be able to conjure the picture I was in and feel the same. --Sherif9282 (talk) 17:29, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

I kind of share in your feeling, Sherif. I've got to add to the historical perspective Mubarak's injury in the attack on Anwar Sadat. I have also noted Stars of David drawn on abandoned police vehicles... Do you think the regime will fall? If so, will the successors maintain past agreements? JG, sorry for intrusion. - BorisG (talk) 17:50, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

No need to apologise Boris, you're always welcome on my page. Sherif, I agree that it is a bit surreal. I can only add that I hope that all works out for the best in Egypt and that there will be no more bloodshed. Hope all is well for you and your family. Best regards--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 21:10, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Absolutely Boris. I'll head to your talk page I guess.

It is quite surreal indeed, JG. Thank you for your words, I really appreciate it. --Sherif9282 (talk) 21:50, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

email

Cheers.--Mbz1 (talk) 16:08, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

email checked--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 17:18, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Ford Letter

Nice addition! Ha-Am (ve'Dod Shmuel) im Ha-Golan. Chesdovi (talk) 23:23, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Logan

Add the cites, to the talkpage, it is one unnamed report imo Off2riorob (talk) 05:57, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Civilian casualty ratio

You may want to look at the RS:N for it/talk page which rejects that line of thinking. If you want to take it back to RS:N, go for it. Sol (talk) 22:48, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Enforcement.

--Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 16:51, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

FYI

Best wishes.--Mbz1 (talk) 15:29, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Stop commenting in AE "results" section

That section is for uninvolved administrators. Your commenting there is improper and disruptive.

Supreme Deliciousness said so, you re-posted there. Any further edits in that section by you will result in a short block.

I am going to move your comments to the bottom of your main response comment.

Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 18:20, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

No problem George. All I ask is that you read the comments before moving them--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 18:25, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

I did read them, but that doesn't matter. They absolutely do not belong in that section. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 18:59, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

To bolster your argument . Of course it is of major concern to most of us whether or not Hitler had Jewish roots. Was this edit during a topic ban? It is more than a little offensive. 172.190.223.247 (talk) 03:31, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Which edit are you referring to. Many of SupremeD's edits are over the top. Can you point to the specific diff please?--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 03:58, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Sorry I thought I had. His attempt to include the obscure and fringey theory that Hitler had Jewish genes in the main article on Hitler. It just seems to Jewish me that he is trying to say "Hitler"="Jewish." This must be disconcerting to the Jewish editors in the I-P conflict area, as I see it is to you. 172.190.223.247 (talk) 05:45, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

I agree that you shouldn't comment in that section. But the ineptitude of any admin to do what they volunteered to do makes me no care. You wouldn't have to comment there if they would read the diffs you provided in the first place. Hell, you even had to repeat your answer to the same question since they did not read through the conversation. Hey here is an idea for the AE admins: Don't try to judge conflicts for fun. Do it because you want to better the project. They can all rot if they want to play contrary games. Go to law school in your next life if you want to be a defense attorney. And don't cry about being a volunteer when you get off on it. I volunteer to play Mega Man but it does not mean I do not enjoy it.

Supreme Deliciousness is the problem just like Nableezy was. And both of them will come back sooner or later and make the topic area even worse. Tag teaming my ass. I have disagreed with you, JJG, enough times that the assertion is absurd. I do like you and agree with your POV, though. At least I can fully man up to that.Cptnono (talk) 08:39, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

You may want to bring up SD wp:forum shopping all over admins talk pages.--Mbz1 (talk) 02:41, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

User:Supreme Deliciousness

Hello. I recommend that you take the matter to AN/I or contact another administrator. I would take action myself, except my activity in Israel-Palestine matters makes me WP:INVOLVED. You can also e-mail User:Oversight and ask them to permanently delete any edits that reveal confidential information. — Malik Shabazz /_Stalk 05:41, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

I don't know what this section is about but good form on your part, MS. Thanks for being straight and admitting to being involved. Also, my bad bringing up the GA at AE. Kind of sullied it. And since this is JJG's page: What's up, badass? Hope all is well. Even with all this AE stuff you have turned out to be a perfectly fine editor. I do see your POV but you know that. As long as you keep it on the talk page then it is fine. At least you tried to get an article up to standard instead of focusing on junk. If you do get topic banned (I'm looking at one, too!) I say screw it. No indef (I assume) so we'll both be back and things will work out OK enough. Maybe neither of us will get topic banned but it is a reminder either way to be even more careful in the topic area. It is like pulling teeth but that is the price we pay for not being professional journalists or writers. And just to be honest: if this was an email it would be filled with cussing and even worse... but it isn't. Cheers, dude.Cptnono (talk) 06:14, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Malik and Cptnono. I appreciate your advice and support. This outing thing has got me really bumed out. I'm thinking of just retiring. It's really not worth all the aggravation. Whatever happens, Misplaced Pages has got to find a better way to deal with people who have no respect for the personal lives of others. It's quite sad.--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 07:35, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

You aren't going anywhere. Your feelings are too strong and you believe this medium can be skewed too much to allow you otherwise. Maybe you should go away. Take a break and not worry about it. And/or maybe you should alter your editing completely to make sure you are not put in this positions again. Whatever your decision is, SD and Nebleezy trying to out you further (you were already outed before) was bad form. Don;t resort tot that crap.Cptnono (talk) 07:49, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Arbitration enforcement topic ban: Arab-Israeli conflict

For misrepresentation of sources and persistent ideological POV-pushing across many articles, as explained here, in application and enforcement of WP:ARBPIA#Discretionary sanctions, you are topic-banned (per WP:TBAN) from the Arab-Israeli conflict for six months.  Sandstein  13:02, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Wow! Your decision is the blindsided equivalent of a sucker punch. From the beginning, you’ve made no secret of your desire to forgo any action against SD and to sanction me. You were absent from these discussions for a number of days and during your absence, different, newer diffs were introduced and more admins joined this thread, intelligently and thoroughly debating the issues presented. In your haste to sanction me, you’ve completely ignored and disregarded the views of at least four admins who suggested equal if not greater sanctions for SD. By your own admission, you neglected to read my posts and forced me to post twice and sometimes three times until you acknowledged them. In desperation, I had to post in the admin section until I got your attention. You completely ignored OUTING efforts by SD. In sum, your decision was arbitrary and capricious and demonstrates contempt for the views of your fellow admins. It also demonstrates an acute laziness on your part for failing to thoroughly review the diffs presented. Most importantly, by ignoring egregious OUTING efforts by SD as well as his inability to acknowledge wrong-doing for his actions, it represents the callous way in which regard the privacy rights of others. You should be stripped of your administrative tools.--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 14:28, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Comeback?

You have been contributing on Misplaced Pages for almost two years. At this stage, editing kinda becomes a habit. In this respect, I was sort of hoping that the so-called "Wikimania-syndrom" sooner or later would strike you, and you will think: "You know what? Screw this entire topic-ban. It will expire in six months anyway". When those six months are gone, I bet you just can't help from not breaking the habit. At least, I hope I'm right, and that you will regret your withdrawal within a matter of time. Until then: Cheers! With regards, --Mikrobølgeovn (talk) 00:59, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Your e-mail

I dislike having to use e-mail, it's intransparent. Please make your request onwiki, on my talk page. Thanks,  Sandstein  23:29, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi. In reply to your second e-mail, as I said, I am ready to lift the topic ban after a substantial period of unproblematic editing by you in other topic areas. If you disagree, you can appeal the ban to WP:AE or the Arbitration Committee. As concerns the article you mention in your e-mail, Tel Zayit, it does not seem to relate to the Arab-Israeli conflict and therefore you may edit it without violating your topic ban, unless you introduce material related to the conflict.  Sandstein  05:54, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Okay but as noted, due to RL, I won't be able to do anything until early June.--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 15:38, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

My talk page

While it is mildly amusing to be charged with hypocrisy by you, it is not something that I want to deal with. I am having a serious conversation with somebody, so kindly leave me alone. nableezy - 02:59, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Do you really want to go this way? If so, you may want to consider whether or not that edit is a violation of your current topic ban. And whether or not "one of the most adversarial editors in the I-A topic area" should request that ban be enforced. nableezy - 04:57, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

I have scrupulously held to the ban's provisions. I have not edited any article or article talk page nor have I commented directly on any enforcement action, AE, ANI, SPI or otherwise dealing with the subject matter to which the ban pertains. If I thought it was a violation, I would not have posed the question to an admin who arbitrates enforcement actions in the topic area. But if you feel that this is yet another opportunity for you to rid yourself of what you perceive to be an adversary, then give it your best shot. I really couldn't give a rat's ass what you do--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 05:26, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Thats nice. Ill keep that in mind. Bye. nableezy - 05:31, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

WP:AE#Jiujitsuguy. Also, dont modify others comments as you did here. As this is your talk page you are free to remove whatever comment you wish. You may not however otherwise manipulate others comments. Ive reverted your strike out. Bye. nableezy - 03:53, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations!

	Conspiracy theorist award
	For the best conspiracy theory, and for laying it out with a straight face, I award you this barnstar. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 03:41, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Just a note

I hope this is taken in the right spirit. I noted in that complaint about you, a diff is given showing that you asked for a citation re Mecom on a page outside your ban, where you are free to edit. I have the requested info, but I think it would lead to suggestions that in trying to fix it I would be in violation of the terms of my own ban. I could keep, as I usually do, mum. But the date there is screwed up, and that's possibly why you couldn't find any relevant info. The date was 18 December 1964 (not 1965, as the page presently has it). In any case, the details of the incident can be found in the following RS:-

(a) William Joseph Burns, Economic aid and American policy toward Egypt, 1955-1981, SUNY Press, 1985 p.158

(b) H. W. Brands, The foreign policies of Lyndon Johnson: beyond Vietnam, Texas A&M University Press, 1999 p.152 If all's okay feel free to use this stuff. Nishidani (talk) 09:34, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Result of WP:AE#Jiujitsuguy

Per this AE thread, your existing topic ban by Sandstein is extended by two months. The previous terms continue in effect. Per WP:TBAN you may not edit on the subject of the Arab-Israeli conflict anywhere on Misplaced Pages, including talk pages, or comment about the behavior of editors who work on those articles. The original ban was for six months starting on 4 March 2011. The new expiry date will be 4 November 2011. EdJohnston (talk) 04:02, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

That is a bummer, JJG. Two months isn't that much longer and if you take it to AE you can probably get it reduced by 75% since they are all talk and no bite ;) All kidding aside, hope everything else is going well.Cptnono (talk) 05:19, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Jiujitsuguy (talk · contribs), regarding this diff, would you say that the user's WikiLove message to you was meant in earnest or that it was a veiled jibe issuing from a place of malice? (I'm not that familiar with the circumstances and terms of your I/P sanctions, so feel free not to respond to my query if there's a chance it could be used against you.)—Biosketch (talk) 10:01, 15 July 2011 (UTC)