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R8r chemical element collaboration

Hey there. A few words for ya:

Until recently, I thought that astatine was quite good; but after I had got a copy of Analytical Chemistry of Technetium, Promethium, Astatine, and Francium (I hoped to get just a translation into English, but... well, everything turned out well), I realized I was wrong. There's a lot of everything interesting to add; I won't make the article too long, however. (Also wanted to ask you if the Production section needs info separation techniques and identification; Production is going to get away from Uses, that's my plan)

As I'm into it for the moment, I probably won't get in 2011 to fluorine (I mean, I'm monitoring it, but not working...yet). However, contact me if I'm needed, I may cancel it all if you wish (if only I had some more time to be able to take both). I'll have in mind all your edits; by the way, the citation is nice. Love it.

About refs. There's nothing portable I can offer you (well, I can't even remember seeing a portable reference book). Sorry. However, I may give you a download link for the F letter articles; as of I'm writing this, the links are going to be ready in half an hour (my Internet connection is killing me. I'll give you a link later this week--14:49, 21 December 2011 (UTC)).

Sincerely, R8R Gtrs (talk) 13:34, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Let the TCO-horse run after "Fluorine" for a while. I don't think I'm changing much in the grand scheme of things, so should be no need for angst. Am trying to make it as clear as possible language-wise (both English and technical explanations). I'm about halfway through copyediting it. Then I will go back and look at content and references. Give me a little time, please. It is work...but the train is moving!

Yeah, separation and the carriers and all is huge for Astatine. Good add. We may want to get a simple diagram of the process (will help the reader, along with a paragraph that discusses co-precipitation and the like). As here: . I have great relations with the graphics peeps so we can get a nice one made up, after you describe it.TCO (talk) 16:59, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm amazed. Your words are exactly what I wanted to see. I'm not scared of your changes, I trust you; no angst, and there never was any. Take any time you need. I still offer being contacted, but rather "just in case."

Graphics are going to appear a little later. They are, though; thanks for the idea. Just as I finish with entering info from the book.

Merry Christmas!--R8R Gtrs (talk) 15:16, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

You're early! My Christmas is celebrated on January 7 :) Also, the New Year is the main winter celebration in Russia, thanks to the commies (theism-haters), who decided that if there should be a winter celebration (no holiday in winter in late 1920s and early 1930s), it should not be associated with any god. Well, the more you know...

But who cares about that? Have a nice Christmas, spend it with your family, give them some love and warmness on the soul. Don't miss the chance to say how you love them. Remember they're the closest ones to you. That's what the day means. Have a good holiday!--R8R Gtrs (talk) 16:11, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

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Actually each of those links was intentional. We lack articles for those topics. The dab or a category is the best we have and I'm using it on purpose. Damned robot.TCO (talk) 11:21, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

TCO, I find explaining things to bots to be a waste of time. Even if you speak REALLY SLOWLY AND LOUDLY.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:13, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

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Hi, TCO. Re your latest input on the Malleus RFAR: I noticed you made a small change to your contribution... but don't you think it made the "show" metaphor a little unfortunate? :-) I for one don't want to see 'em! But I know what you mean. I too saw the embarrassing post from the godking about wishing to form a… oh, I can't make myself say it… don't look now… a privy council! How royal is that? Anyway. So you think there's any chance of arbcom putting Jimbo in his place ? Are you aware of this case from 2009? Surely a golden opportunity? But no. How could we write a fair motion, let alone open a full case, what if the MEDIA got hold of it?! (Inline cite: private communication to me.) Bishonen | talk 01:24, 25 December 2011 (UTC).,_go_put_<redacted>_in_his_place""> ,_go_put_<redacted>_in_his_place"">

I'm not aware of every part of it all. Am not following every drama and take any drama or high response page off of my watch list. I actually like a dustup...but the whole history of intrigues and jockying for control and cliques on this site is more depressing and tedious than drama-fun. I didn't vote for arbcom. Did not look at a single guide or page related to it. Literally not one view. I just totally ignored it. Site spends way too much time on this stuff. And Arbcom with it's Senate-style different tranches and people hanging on for years is totally a control game to stop people from voting the fuckers out. I don't want to talk about it more. Sorry. Just...it upsets me. Let the topic die, please.TCO (talk) 02:02, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

WP:INSURMOUNTABLE

Hi. You expressed interest on WP:VPR in an essay to help out newbies. I've started a rough draft of this essay. Could you please take a look? Feel free to make changes.--v/r - TP 00:25, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Re: A Sense of Honor

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$98 beauty pageant

Haven't heard from the Kremlin South about the JSTOR thing. I imagine I am persona non grata around there right now, so should I let it die or send them a reminder after New Year's?--Wehwalt (talk) 09:39, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

I think you are fine to them. Please follow up with the two people from e-mails.TCO (talk) 14:54, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

I will, then. Thank you for the advice.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:28, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, yeah...it was advice, not an order. Good job going after the peeps there.TCO (talk) 16:56, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

v/r - TP 18:28, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Redirect me if not sure

Hey there! For astatine, I'd love to add alpha half-lives (half-lives if we ignore all other decays except alpha) for 210At and 211At, rather than just usual half-lives and alpha decay probability. I know there's a rule that every number in an article should be cited. After I had realized I couldn't find them cited, I turned on my math skills. After about 40minutes of thinking, I got the answer. Since it only requires numbers I can easily cite (if haven't already done that) and math (not pretty simple) (and this site, which helped me to turn meaningless expressions like log₂(20000/19964) into numbers I can insert into a calculator), is there a way of inserting this info into the article? Thanks in advance, and if you're not sure, could you tell someone to contact?

Also, I've got a few questions about your work on fluorine. When should I ask them, now or after you finish the work and get to PR? I want you to know: I'm sure that after you explain, I'll be pretty OK with it. I trust you, man. --R8R Gtrs (talk) 17:39, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

At: jJust cite the source for the activity. Conversion to a half-life is trivial. I am on your side. I don't think you need some note explaining the trivial conversion either. No one will question it or notice.

F: Speak.

TCO (talk) 17:42, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

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Hey TCO, unfortunately due to ongoing problems with the toolserver, I'm often not able to successfully run the script for projects with more than about 2000 articles (and even ones with only 1000 articles time-out sometimes). I need to rewrite the script so it can work around the time-out problem, but it might not happen for a while. I'll go ahead and set up WikiProject Elements, but there's a good chance it won't work reliably :( Kaldari (talk) 21:50, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Appreciate your trying. There are only 118 elements. We do have an article on the Periodic table and on the various columns and rows and such. Much less than 1000 that matter. I guess we have a lot of pages on the ions, but maybe there is some way to exclude them if that puts us over the limit. Like by a category or subproject (it used to be one) or the like.TCO (talk) 21:59, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Looks like it's working for now. Keep your fingers crossed! Kaldari (talk) 22:07, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Done. Now get back to the workhouse! :) Kaldari (talk) 23:22, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Nice. Kaldari (talk) 00:06, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

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TCO (Reviews needed) 00:14, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

A friendly warning

This remark of yours has just been brought to my attention. I am rather disappointed that no one seems to have taken the time to discuss it with you at the point it was made. I realise it was a month ago. However, I simply want to make clear that the remark is utterly unacceptable, a clear breach of civility, and the invective about "pussy juice leaking out of its nutsack" particularly offensive. Any reasonable editor would be aware that it was likely to offend, and thus be disruptive of a healthy editing environment. Had I seen the remark at the time, I would have blocked you without hesitation. Whatever your intention, please refrain from that type of rhetoric in future, which can only serve to harm the editing environment. Please consider this a warning, designed to prevent you stumbling into issues going forward.--Scott Mac 01:31, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

This warning is frankly crap. There is no personal attack contained in the diff, and per the recent village pump policy discussion you ought not to warn over words. Pull your head in Scott, your action is not supported by community consensus on what civility policy ispolicy and community consensus formed around perennial attempts to produce policy on the role of specific language within civility is. Fifelfoo (talk) 01:40, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Civility is about creating a conducive working environment. That post offended at least one user (and reasonably would offend more) - needlessly offending people is something good Wikipedians avoid doing.--Scott Mac 01:47, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Do you have a reading comprehension problem, the community has clearly spoken: policyfailure to form policy on language in civility? Fifelfoo (talk)

That page does not say what you are making out. "To the extent that discussions remain WP:CIVIL consensus is clearly against language restrictions" - I completlet agree with that. "To the extent that discussions remain CIVIL"--Scott Mac 01:55, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Individual offence is not incivility; stop playing the school marm and the defender of helpless ladies. You may also want to exit the area of civility as you cannot sufficiently explain a warning over civility. Your assumptions of self-evident content, and over what the nature of policy is, are so deeply flawed as to make these contributions a pointy support of some normative morality you possess. Fifelfoo (talk) 01:56, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, whatever.--Scott Mac 02:01, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Scott, who did it offend? I'm at something of a loss here. The comment strikes me as possibly vulgar, but that's about it.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:27, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

It is gratuitously vulgar. A female editor found it to be offensive and sexist.--Scott Mac 19:16, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

I figured out who it was. There is a history and a grievance there, not related to civility.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:42, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

To be honest, I saw it when it was posted and thought it was disgusting. My reaction: unwatch the page. In my view, that's the best way to deal with something like this. Truthkeeper (talk) 19:51, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Just a warning? Malleus Fatuorum has just been indeffed (now at ArbCom) for ostensibly much the same use of language. There's more backstory to both of these, but neither are "parliamentary expressions" that either editor should be using. Andy Dingley (talk) 19:53, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

As a woman from America who has lived in England, what Malleus said offends me far less because I understand that the word is used differently, i.e often directed by men at men in cities such as Manchester, Liverpool, Glasgow, etc. As an American woman I understand exactly what TCO was saying & the spirit, and I found it to be mean-spirited. That's the difference. In case anyone cares. Truthkeeper (talk) 19:57, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Very well, opinion expressed and no doubt taken on board. Anything else to be done here?--Wehwalt (talk) 20:04, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

As a man from Glasgow, I'm aware of the usage of "cunt", and while it is not particularly sexist, it is the language of the macho gutter, which even men who use it among men would seldom repeat outside that circle of male friends. And we really don't want to go to the lowest common denominator of what men feel free to say to male friends in a pub, as a mark of what's acceptable in wikipedia. Trust me, we don't.--Scott Mac 20:11, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Arbs asked for examples of inconsistent civility enforcement, so ... Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Civility enforcement/Evidence#Evidence submitted by SandyGeorgia. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:46, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm with Scott, that language was unacceptable. TCO, your talk page is on my watchlist now, as well as several others I presume. You don't repeat the behavior, then there's no problem. OK? Cla68 (talk) 15:10, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Reviewers?

Hi, I'm with the Misplaced Pages:WikiProject AP Biology 2011. I saw that you had written on User:JimmyButler's talk page about how one of my classmates should go write on a reviewer's talk page to get someone to review her article that had been up for peer review for a few weeks. I already had about three different editors go through my article and proofread and help me with some referencing issues, and they told me that it was ready for GA review. Then I had one of my classmates go through and review it also, and after fixing some of his suggestions and explaining why I wasn't changing some others, he told me he thought it was ready for GA review too. I nominated it last night, but I don't want to wait weeks for a reviewer because our classtime for this project is almost over. My article is the Olympic marmot. I understand that there are certain editors with expertise in different topics. Do you possibly know of someone that I could request to do my GA review, even if he isn't a marmot expert? I'd really appreciate your help! --Imthebombliketicktick (talk) 16:00, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Hit up Ucucha, Visionholder, Sasata, and Casliber. The first two are expert mammalologists. Third and fourth have job and Wiki biology strengths in general. If those don't work, then I'll just give you some general peeps.

I skimmed it. Looks long, which is usually good (I want meat on the bone, want info...we can shape that to perfection, but if you have not done the research...) Actually looks like more info than your classmates. I think the sexual dimorphism is repeated in differen sections. Have it in one or the other (probably description). You can repeat stuff into the lead of course (have to, should actually since lead is a summary), but other than that, don't duplicate same point.

May be some other things, I just totally skimmed it, but it really looks ready to be in the GA queue, so I would just ask for a GA review (not more pre-GA stuff). Good luck, dude. Keep after it. Squeeky wheel and early bird and all that.TCO (Reviews needed) 16:25, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

I removed the part about sexual dimorphism in the taxonomy so it's now it's only mentioned in the lead and in the description. I'll stay on top of it and go ask those users you mentioned right now. Thank you so much! Imthebombliketicktick (talk) 16:40, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Few more names: ORlady, Tonythetiger, Hawkeye7, NYMFan, MaterialScientist, Kevin Myers, Mike Searson. They aren't biologists, but are just some heavy hitters in the content world. Might not have all the names spelled right, but that can be a little work for you to figure it out.  ;-) Peace, babe, and Happy New Year! TCO (Reviews needed) 16:48, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

I got them all! Hopefully I'll get a reviewer soon. Thanks again! Happy New Year to you too! I hope it's a good one ;) Imthebombliketicktick (talk) 18:00, 31 December 2011 (UTC)