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Mediation Cabal: Request for participation

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Bundled AfD

Hello, you recently closed this AfD as delete, and deleted the main article, but you may have forgotten to delete the other 2 articles which were bundled along with it: List of German Chancellors by longevity and List of Secretaries-General of the United Nations by longevity. Additionally, there is a third article which has an AfD template pointing to this AfD, but doesn't appear to have been discussed within it (List of Australian Prime Ministers by age); I'll let you decide what to do with it. Thanks. —SW—  15:22, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I missed that somehow after the close. I have deleted the other two listed ones, and removed the AfD from the third one (since it wasn't included in the actual AfD, and so would be unfair to delete based on it). Fram (talk) 15:38, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

AWB bug reported for BLPunreferenced parameter

Hi Fram! Thanks for the cleanup you've been doing after BattyBot merges templates into Multiple issues. I've made the following AWB bug report so we can hopefully stop the problem from happening in the future. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 20:05, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

FYI, the fine AWB developers have already created a fix for the bug, which will be included in the next release. GoingBatty (talk) 03:44, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for raising this, and thanks to the devs for getting this fixed. I'll continue correcting these and similar errors, but it should reduce their rate. 08:41, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Deletion Question

Dear Fram, You were the administrator to recently close Meher Baba's Critics after its NfD period expired. However the original author still keeps the article on his Sandbox here: User:Stephen Castro/Sandbox so it is still searchable through google. Is that okay for people to do? I am only asking as I do not know. Dazedbythebell (talk) 15:43, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

I've tagged it as a userspace draft, so it doesn't get indexed by Google cs. Thanks for letting me know. Fram (talk) 08:54, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

I would appreciate a change in tone

I removed your last obnoxious remark from my talk page. I would appreciate a change in tone. The cite to Forbes is to an external contributor's blog post. I do consider that a minor publication. You may disagree. You may not disagree in an obnoxious fashion. Not on my talk page, anyway.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 10:58, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

To answer your question - I intend to host general philosophical and policy discussions on my page from time to time, and I intend to enforce a higher standard of civility than you may be comfortable with. If you don't like it, that's fine with me, it really is. Just don't participate if you can't do so while behaving in a respectful manner to others.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 11:48, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm perfectly capable of behaving in a respectful and impartial manner, both on talk pages and in other namespaces, both in discussions and in actions. I do hope that you enforce that higher standard adn will lead by example. In the past, I haven't seen that standard applied in a neutral and impartial way though. Apart from that, "I decide what does here and what doesn't" is again a perfect example of where you are heading in the wrong direction. Fram (talk) 11:54, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

List of professional cyclists who died during a race

Thank you so much for your recent AWB cleanup of this article, in the past it kind of grew like a weed so fixing it up has been a long process. I am letting you know that I am reverting your change of Reference #137's title, from "Portuguese" back to "Portugese". The cite's actual title is as follows: Young Portugese cyclist dies in crash, so I have changed it back to conform with how it appears in the cited reference material. Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 21:37, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. You are quite correct that I shouldn't have changed that one. Fram (talk) 07:32, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

RM

Hey Fram. There's requested move that's discussing reversing some moves you made back in '08. The discussion's at Talk:List of mayors and lord mayors of Adelaide#Requested move is you feel like participating. Cheers, Jenks24 (talk) 04:02, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! I have commented. Fram (talk) 07:46, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Portugese → Portuguese

Hi Fram! I noticed an edit where you changed Portugese → Portuguese. I updated the "Portuguese" rule on WP:AWB/Typos so this can be fixed by all AWB editors. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 02:44, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, but there are still some 140 pages that use "Portugese", the most of them correctly though, as part of a filename or an url or an interwiki. Does the typo page skip these three categories, or does it change typos everywhere? Fram (talk) 07:40, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

WP:AWB/Typos#Usage states "When used on AWB, typo-fixing is automatically prevented on image names, templates, wikilink targets and quotes (including indented paragraphs)" - so you should be OK. GoingBatty (talk) 13:18, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Great, I hadn't checked that. Fram (talk) 14:06, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

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Deletion question

Hi Fram,

In 2008 you deleted a page called "Matt Thompson (drummer)", associated with the page "King Diamond (band)" http://en.wikipedia.org/King_Diamond_(band)

Here are the details of the deletion:

13:13, 18 August 2008 Fram (talk | contribs) deleted page Matt Thompson (drummer) (A1: Not enough context to identify subject)

Matt Thompson is still the current drummer for King Diamond and now that he has a web page up with lots of supporting information, I think it might be possible to either restore Matt Thompson's Misplaced Pages page or create a new one?

Matt's web page is: http://www.mattthompsondrums.com

If there is anything else I can do to help make this happen, please let me know. Thank you!

Alyrocker (talk) 22:16, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

You are free to make a page about him, please just check WP:BIO to see if he meets our notability guidelines. Please try to include information from independent reliable sources like music magazines, mainstream newspapers, ..., not solely from his own webpage. As for the previous deletion: the page only contained the text "Matt Thompson", which isn't really an article of course. It was not deleted because Matt Thompson can't have an article here, there is no reason why he shouldn't have an article if he meets our notability guidelines. Thanks for dropping a note! Fram (talk) 07:44, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi Fram Please Dont include books other than Major religions as it is not fair to include only some..thank you

Please look into this — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shake16725 (talk • contribs) 08:42, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Hinduism is the world's third greatest religion, with over one billion adherents. A pretty major religion, I would say... Fram (talk) 08:58, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Wow

Blimey, reverting Jimbo on his user page. I hope you are not too annoyed about the discussion. If you feel very strongly about how policy should apply, and be seen to apply, equally to Jimbo's talk page as it does elsewhere, perhaps a longer term process such as a community wide RFC would be in order? It might be better for those interested to have time to step back and write up their reasoning. Personally I would be very interested to see Jimbo explain his thoughts on this and why his page is an exception, rather than doing the same thing by running a forum away from Misplaced Pages (say, by pointing to a space on Wikia from his Misplaced Pages user talk page). Cheers --Fæ (talk) 16:01, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

It's basically two things, first that indeed policy should apply equally, and secondly the hypocritical stance that when he likes it, his page is an open page where everyone is free to discuss policy, raise issues, ignore guidelines, and so on, but when he doesn't like what is posted, it suddenly becomes his user talk page where he can decide what is or isn't allowable. Hence my use of his own words from that discussion as the edit summary for my revert of course. Tarc seems to have missed the irony of it all though. Jimbo's excuse that it hasn't been like this for ten years doesn't really wash, many things have changed in the meantime, including his role here. Oh well, things will quiet down for a while until he again tries to make his user talk page a freehaven for likeminded people, or until he screws up again with a deletion or somesuch. Let's hope that neither happens very soon... Fram (talk) 20:17, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Me too. I will follow my suggestion on Jimbo's page though, and genuinely ask him if he thinks a specific policy applies or not next time. I hope he or others don't read that as overly pointy or sarcastic (being rather British, I can sometimes read that way...). Thanks --Fæ (talk) 20:22, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Category discussion you should see

Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2012 March 21#Category:1889 establishments in the United States __meco (talk) 21:08, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Article "C. H. B. Quennell" may need a redirection "C.H.B. Quennell"

Hello Fram,
searching for "C.H.B. Quennell" I found only this one article:

• Peter Quennell

So I've tried to create this page:

C.H.B._Quennell

... in this way:

#REDIRECT ]

But surprisingly I'm getting this message:

Searching the destination articles history I've found your last editing.
How do you think about the suggested redirection?
Jaybear (talk) 09:51, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

I presume the problem was with the external link (http...) inside your redirect, instead of an internal link (with only the article name). I have created it, but I don't think that with the correct syntax you would have had a problem. I see no actual problem with the redirect name. Fram (talk) 10:01, 28 March 2012 (UTC)