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I lived in Egypt for several years and was fortunate enough to make many friends. Through them, I often came to know their families. Just living life on a daily basis amongst the people allowed me to learn a great deal about their society and culture. One such thing is how it isn’t respectful, or indeed normal to depict images of prophets in their faith. In fact, no prophets are shown on TV, in films, in books, or anywhere else for that matter.
When the animated film the Prince of Egypt (including the animated character of Moses - another prophet) was released, it wasn’t shown in Egypt. No one there had ever seen the Ten Commandments. It was strange for me as I hadn’t been aware of this aspect of their religion before. I asked questions and came to respect their beliefs whether I personally agreed with them or not.
Misplaced Pages would cause great distress to not only my personal friends but also millions of other devout Muslims by artificially coupling images with this article. I speak from my life experience; what I have garnered first hand. There is no need for conjecture, assuming or predisposed guesses on my part as to what will offend. It is not only an absurdity to Muslims that such pictures would be included in this article, but also represents a preposterous audacity, lack of respect and illustration of ignorance.
Moreover and on to the crux, the overwhelming arguments for the desire to include these images do not seem to address how such images support the topic of the article and help the reader learn. Rather, they cry afoul of perceived censorship to material that would never naturally exist in such a context. My perception is that the issue has basically devolved into what the rights of people are vs. what constitutes relevant material. We must get it right and have the article reflect what is truly most important to its essence. By not including images, we show respect and more importantly keep the article accurate and true. Misplaced Pages must not take on the role of creating connections and correlations where there were none before.
— Veritycheck (talk) 04:00, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Obviously no one is arguing over the amount of Muslims who would rather the image wasn't shoved under their noses! NO reliable sources out there are claiming that the amount Muslims taking offence isn't real, or is 'exaggerated' etc - it is a clear cut fact that a significant number of Muslims do not wish to see an image of Mohammad.
The only 'opposing' position is entirely the 'POV' of certain Wikipedians - namely, that the offence taken by Muslim people must be actively ignored by Misplaced Pages, rather than simply worked around with no bother to anyone. They base this rude and encyclopedia-narrowing position on supposed 'principles' extrapolated from NOTCENSORED. All the other arguments they've used to back themselves up are just meaningless waffle (as if misusing NOTCENSORED isn't bad enough - there is no way it was intended for point-making and controversy-creating, all in the face of offending people unnecessarily like this).
— Matt Lewis (talk) 19:38, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
Any decent well-troden editor will tell that in some areas you can't move on Misplaced Pages for children squealing "WIKIPEDIA IS NOT CENSORED!!" like spoilt little brats with toy axes to grind. They have no sense of value (the inner human quality), weight (naturally the most abused policy of all), or degree (which should be the main prerequisite for contributing to this godless place). For heaven's sake get rid of it. Where else even asks the question? It's inclusive insanity, and one of the main reasons I can't edit here any more - this mindnumbing piece of so-called 'policy'. You'll never convince people that WP isn't just a deliberately-divisive information cattle market with nonsense like this sitting around like rubber frying pans to picked up by any ne're-do-well wearing pizza boxes for shoes. If you have something to say about Misplaced Pages's usage, spell it out properly and succinctly - not via rolls of endlessly-abusable policy sections quotable always as 'WP:THISPROVESIAMRIGHT'.
WP:HEY KIDS? SOCIETY EQUALS REGULATION! And it also equals welfare and taxation. It always has in some form and to some degree, and it always will. It's why it's called 'society', or "the scary place outside" as some of you probably know of it. Without those crucial elements there is nothing but chaos, rape, theft and death. If you don't like it, go into the woods and fend for yourselves and we'll see you around supper time for your milk and cookies.
If Misplaced Pages refuses to be part of society it should be shut down immediately. It's far too unregulated and powerful as it is. It's a giant tool for human abuse (I put hidden but self-aware anti-Islamic/religious sentiment here at about 50%) - whether it can theoretically be 'over-censored' is the very last of people's worries for crying out loud. This isn't some kind of post-apocalyptic utopia for god's sake. It's not 'Man's Last Chance' to get it right. I sometimes wonder if people here believe they are gracing some kind of Super Special Society that is vastly superior to the world lying beneath it. You don't and you aren't. Most of the time Misplaced Pages isn't even any good, even by its own decidedly mean standards.
— Matt Lewis (talk) 21:51, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
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