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That's... mesmerizing. I wonder if I could use it to hypnotize people who visit this talk page, and make them do by bidding? Dr.K, mow my lawn. Calabe, trim my hedge. --Floquenbeam (talk) 01:37, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
Lol
You are so right. I was just thinking the exact same thing. That I just couldn't beat your edit summary on Black hair and maybe I should hold back. My better sense failed me though. Apologies. :) Δρ.Κ.01:22, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
Aw, Pedro's generally a good egg, just hot headed sometimes. I wish he hadn't said that, and hope he'll reconsider, but I'm not inclined to remove myself from his list. --Floquenbeam (talk) 12:32, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
Hey Floquenbeam, stop it already. I appreciate it, though. Listen, as weak as it sounds, I don't have much of a reason to oppose a ban for badmachine. They have made positive edits, and they are also a timesink, though not to a great extent for me anyways. I'll never understand that GNAA stuff, ever--but I cannot support blocking just because of that, and IMO badmachine isn't nothing but a troll. Also, the only thing I've seen that could be called trolling has to do with their own user page--but I have not followed their edits very closely, so it's very likely that I would have missed something.
The section I pointed at, at ANI--I broke a lance for someone and unblocked them, and within a week they first proved that they were really a jerk and then that they deserved an indef block, which I gladly gave them. In other words, I'm wrong about these things all the time, and that your argument for blocking is objectively stronger than my flimsy argument for not blocking is more than likely. It's just that I don't like blocking in cases where you actually detect a human behind the name, not just an asshole with nothing better to do. OK, enough out of me. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 03:42, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
I didn't say you were always right; just that when you and I disagree, I rethink my position to make sure I haven't missed something. In this particular case, after some thought, I'm still right and you're still wrong :) But there's obviously no consensus to block, and I'll consider myself successfully trolled by choosing to comment in the thread to start with. I should have known better. When everyone uses "troll" to mean "someone I disagree with", it loses so much of its meaning that an actual troll, professing membership in an organization whose stated purpose is trolling, can actually convince people that they're just someone I disagree with because "they belong to an organization". I suppose I'm lucky I haven't been accused of being a homophobe or racist. I just find it odd that people who are honestly expressing a dissenting opinion about WP (Kurt comes to mind, other specific names escape me at the moment) are labelled trolls and driven off, but actual honest to God trolls are not. Funny place.
Well, I feel the same about you (that you're wrong, haha). I don't know, Floquenbeam. He made some helpful edits. I didn't check the ratio. I detest that GNAA stuff and find nothing funny about it, but I don't think it rises to the level of banning. I haven't seen the low-level trolling myself in article space or on the dramah boards; yesterday's little outing at ANI was relatively mild. Malleus gets accused of trolling, so it must be an easy term to throw around. I have escaped that charge so far. There's something else that can be done, though: propose that the GNAA box be deleted or, if it's a logo, that its use be disallowed in user space. Would that help? I support that, but I am not sure we'd find a consensus for it. Ah well. Drmies (talk) 15:13, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
BTW, I did look at that picture for a while, but Hoegaarden isn't really my thing anymore--too 1980s. Drmies (talk) 15:14, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
An MFD on the GNAA userbox would be a trolling magnet; I've no desire to start one, or participate in one. I imagine it's been nominated before. Plus, I don't actually care if someone has that user box, or the MLP box, or a satanism box on their user page as a joke or a protest or something; I care (and yes, I know I shouldn't) when they're continually using them to troll.
Odd that I didn't think of it since he posted right above here, but yes, MF is another good example of someone accused of trolling by some people, when what is really meant is "I don't like him". Perhaps we've just stripped the meaning from the word completely.
Dammit, wrong picture, I forget I have to be more specific around some people. Up a little higher. No, too far, not the books. A little lower. Yes, that one. Stare at that one. --Floquenbeam (talk) 15:27, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
Meanwhile, I'll stare at the box at the top of this page, and try remind myself I shouldn't be here right now (Hello, my name is Floquenbeam, and I'm an addict. It's been 1 week 1 minute since my last fix) --Floquenbeam (talk) 15:29, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
Back in college, I used to work part-time for a Muslim professor. At one point he wrote a letter to the editor titled "Racism against Muslims", which I thought was odd, since Islam was a religion and not a race. I asked him, wouldn't it be more precise to call it "Bigotry against Muslims"? But he assured me that racism doesn't have to have a race as its target; one could legitimately be "racist" against religions, nationalities, etc. I wasn't quite convinced, but OK. Fast forward to this year, where I've seen more than once the claim that Misplaced Pages engages in "racism against IPs". Meaning, I guess, that unregistered or logged-out editors as a class are a "race". I'm 85% sure the "racism against IPs" meme is pure trolling rather than ignorance of what racism is, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least to see the claim appear that objecting to the racist trolling of the GNAA means that one is "racist against the GNAA". So stay tuned for that. I suppose I'm in a vanishing minority (see what I did there?) of people who actually think that using racist terminology for teh lulz is not something that should be tolerated. 28bytes (talk) 16:18, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
Using "racist" to mean "bigoted" has always puzzled me; there's a well-known, relatively short, more appropriate word right there, and you don't use it? What, you're trying to save syllables? I suspect if someone ever accuses someone else of being "racist against the GNAA" that will be my cue to block them irregardless of consensus anywhere else. --Floquenbeam (talk) 00:45, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
I note that you blocked his neighbour's IP. Is it okay if I remove his comment from my talk page? Since it already showed he is a friend of the other user? Gorgak25 (talk) 00:53, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
Well, it's obviously not his neighbor, but him, pretending to be his neighbor. Yes, you can remove the comment, and if you want me to semi-protect your talk page for a short time, I can do that too. --Floquenbeam (talk) 01:30, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
Oh no, I don't mind my page being left opened at all (thank you, though). I just left it for a while so the comment would be there during the dicussion. But am I right in thinking if I did remove his comment, that the history of that edit will be available unless an admin removes it from the edit histtory? Gorgak25 (talk) 01:39, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
Lunchtime. This in appreciation of your impeccable use of negatives. Now get the fuck away from Misplaced Pages and try to finish your work--and I'll try to do the same. Drmies (talk) 18:13, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
I am not unappreciative of this note, assuming it was not mistakenly misapplied to the wrong page (wait, I think I pushed my luck too far). --Floquenbeam (talk) 18:48, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
I was going to fuck off, but then Bgwhite dropped something on my talk page that smelled socky. *Sigh.* Hey, let's dance tonight, to Cat Daddy. Drmies (talk) 20:07, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
done
Not sure why this appeared ;) Δρ.Κ. 01:54, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
