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Let's make this an opportunity to unhate!
The Fæ classy in crisis LGBT ally Barnstar! | |
Because we need to show our overwhelming support of what people hate on to create unhate whenever it shows up. I compel everyone that supports unhate to repost this on their user page or talk page and especially on any page that has been the location of LGBT harassment or ignorance, that way the haters will know the only consequence of their hate will be more gayness and education and community. LuciferWildCat (talk) 23:33, 23 March 2012 (UTC) |
- Thanks, I'm all for confronting haters back with a big dose of gayness and gay love. Cheers --Fæ (talk) 23:44, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
- You must have missed that Russavia got one also. Right above the discussion on Polandballs :) --Elen of the Roads (talk) 22:55, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
- I was in a talk today with Bishop Gene Robinson who has his own (severe) personal experiences of harassment and death threats over the last few years, for obvious reasons. His view was that the opposite of love is fear, not hate. It's quite a well thought out point with regard to homophobic attacks and I rather like to think our Wikimedia community could consider a positive aim of ending fear through knowledge, communication and awareness rather than reacting to hatred. --Fæ (talk) 23:05, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
- I'm sure some chap in the Bible originated that viewpoint. Something about perfect love casteth out fear...? Elen of the Roads (talk) 23:23, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
- I was using a secondary source in line with policy. --Fæ (talk) 23:28, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
- I'm sure some chap in the Bible originated that viewpoint. Something about perfect love casteth out fear...? Elen of the Roads (talk) 23:23, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
It is my honour:
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The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar | |
Fae, this is for your bravery at the ANI, the willingness to stand up to the abusive bullies who hold the majority there.—Djathinkimacowboy 04:34, 31 March 2012 (UTC) |
The Special Barnstar | ||
You deserve two commendations ... plus I just love the rainbow in this one. —Djathinkimacowboy 04:34, 31 March 2012 (UTC) |
- Thanks. After a couple of days to think about it, I'm still disgusted at how a small number of people contributing to the ANI thread are arguing that telling anyone to fuck off with their queer agenda could be described as anything other than blatantly homophobic. I have raised the problem of unacceptable homophobia on Misplaced Pages with a couple of the WMF board members I had personal chats with at the Berlin Chapters Conference this weekend. --Fæ (talk) 23:41, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
WikiLove message
Hello, Fæ! Seen that you've liked some of my previous works, I thought that I'd dedicate the cartoon below to you in honour of your Chairmanship of WMUK, as well as to British scientists elsewhere ;) GreyHood 07:09, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for the dedication. I see your have honoured Wikimedia UK by highlighting Britain's wonderful capital, our love of freedom and enterprise, our financial leadership, our world-class innovative blue-skies science programmes and, of course, our love of political parody. Now, back to my tea and biscuitz. Cheers --Fæ (talk) 16:50, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
Sig comment
I saw your new signature at AN and just wanted to remind you that images are not permitted in signatures per Misplaced Pages:SIG#Images. You might try adding the following code to get the same effect with text <span style='color: #FF00FF;'>'''▲'''</span>, which shows up as ▲. Hope that helps. MBisanz 19:56, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
- Or indeed since the orientation is important (or rather, essential) ▼. Worm · (talk) 20:06, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
MBisanz, your apparently obsessive behaviour, including your inability to recognize that your appalling treatment of my personal correspondence from several months ago involving a serious matter failed to show me human decency or personal respect, and your multiple pointless harassing warnings my user talk page are highly disturbing. Go back to the AN thread you seem so interested in and read it properly. No image has ever been part of my signature. For someone with trusted status, your failure of judgement in raising a blatantly out of process RFAR, a pointless and out of process WQA thread (as it was raised in parallel with the open RFAR) and now issuing incorrect warnings about things that never happened, seems to look like a pattern of incompetence when it comes to your ability to look rationally at my contributions to Misplaced Pages. If you have personal problems with me, I urge you to raise these with an administrator you trust independently to review, so they can contact me instead of you. If you have problems with me as a trustee of Wikimedia UK, please raise these with the UK Chief Executive, details at wmuk:Contact us.
Please go away, seriously, I can see no possible good coming from you writing here again with further warnings or unwanted advice, and it now looks as though you are on a personal campaign to hamper my enjoyment of this project. To ensure you understand that, I will remove any comment from here on you make to this page and will not reply to your questions. --Fæ (talk) 21:12, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
An image was clearly part of your signature in this section, specifically File:Pink triangle.svg, which renders as . You signed with an image about ten times. As MBisanz says, we don't allow images in user signatures. We somewhat allow political statements, I guess, but you should probably remove that part too.
Your response to MBisanz's note was inappropriate. Writing long paragraphs doesn't obscure the fact that you were wrong. Just say "okay, I won't use images in the future, thanks for the note" and move on. Attempting to dramatize the situation serves no one. --MZMcBride (talk) 22:11, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
- Go back and read the AN thread properly, the example text was never part of my signature, I clearly stated that. By the way, Wikipediocracy is not a political movement. --Fæ (talk) 22:21, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) At the same time though, there's something to be said for not poking the bear. If MBisanz was as prominently involved in a conflict with Fae as Fae suggests, MBisanz may not have been the best person to come comment on this user's signature. I'm not privy to the conflict Fae refers to, but just something to keep in mind in general. Equazcion 22:31, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Struck the clearly bit, I am still convinced I said it somewhere but can't see it myself now, probably due to being tired and it's past my bedtime. The image and text was used inconsistently if you check the times of posting in that thread, it was never a standard signature but a marker text to show that I do not canvass on Wikipediocracy. My signature remains unchanged and has always been uncustomized, it is what you see here after the dashes and is identical on AN. Your Misplaced Pages signature is interpreted to be what you set in your signature preferences per WP:CUSTOMSIG, this was not the case on AN where the inconsistencies were obvious to see. --Fæ (talk) 22:36, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
- Reinstated clearly as now my eyes are less tired, I find my statement on AN easy to find. I said in that same discussion:
- By the way, it's not my signature, only a demonstration that the majority of people posting in this thread so far are Wikipediocracy members which may indicate that we have a problem with the Administrator's Noticeboard being manipulated by a tag team.
- --Fæ (talk) 08:11, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
- WP:DEMONSTRATION --MZMcBride (talk) 21:36, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
- You appear to be shouting, not ideal if you are attempting to advise me on civil behaviour. --Fæ (talk) 21:52, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
- I know of other users that have symbols in their signatures. Why they're targeting you is hard to figure. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 22:11, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
- Baseball Bugs, well there does seem to be a pattern on Misplaced Pages. Any time something has the look of LGBT positive messages, some people seem to behave rather strangely. The pink triangle is probably the real issue here, don't you think? Thank goodness we can safely assume none of this has anything to do with my personal life. What is really bizarre is that I have never, at any time, had an image, of any kind, in my signature. Thanks --Fæ (talk) 22:19, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
- It's a fairly vast anti-gay conspiracy. I do hope you can get to the bottom of it eventually.
- You've most certainly used images as a part of your signature (there are diffs, you realize?). I'm grateful that you've stopped, however. In addition to being against policy, the image was needlessly distracting.
- Thank you for your replies, Fæ. I can tell that the death of your computer has really hampered your ability to edit, so I appreciate the extra effort. --MZMcBride (talk) 22:36, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, if you check my edits, even with chapter business going on I manage between 1,000 to 2,000 edits per month but it has dropped like a stone over the last few weeks. Having intermittent problems has been a real drag and hard to diagnose. I'll probably have to swap out my memory rather than getting a new machine, running long term diagnostics to make sure before forking out hard cash. By the way, any diffs will just support my statements above. My signature is as it has always been as you can see at the end of this sentence.
- As for joking about LGBT problems on Misplaced Pages, it would be pretty odd if nobody within the massive numbers of our contributors had any problems with corresponding with LGBT people. To write off any concerns that this may, from time to time, be an issue as some sort of nutty vast anti-gay conspiracy is to deny a fact of life. As someone approaching 50 who over the years has had friends beaten unconscious and permanently disfigured during homophobic attacks, and known people who were murdered just for being thought to be gay, you might give me a bit of space to have minor concerns about odd patterns of behaviour on Wikimedia projects any time LGBT issues become involved. --Fæ (talk) 22:42, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
- Baseball Bugs: You know of other users who have symbols in their user signatures... such as yourself? The issue isn't using symbols, it's using images. And please do not make this out to be a case of Fæ being targeted. It'll only fuel the conspiracy theories. --MZMcBride (talk) 22:36, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
- I'm talking about editors who use little hearts, clubs, airplanes, and such as that. Regarding my signature, do you mean the little arrows? That's for some separation. Is there something else I should use? ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 22:42, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
- I expect you're talking about this:
- Thanks I am not a Wikipediocrat and I do not canvass on Wikipediocracy. --Fæ (talk) 15:08, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
- If he's no longer using that pink triangle thing, and assuming it even was part of his signature and not just something he pasted in, then that would seem to close the issue. Although I would still like to know why tiny svg items are OK for one user and not another. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 23:00, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
- See the double dash? That's a standard separator between a signature and the sentence. If you look at MZMcBride's signature, it uses the same standard and is a bit of an obvious give away. --Fæ (talk) 23:08, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
- Sure. Lots of folks use it. Oddly enough, it's not the n-dash or m-dash or whatever it is that certain editors obsess over. Anyway, no one has ever griped about my arrows. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 12:03, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
- I'm surprised they haven't hassled you over "Fæ" vs. "Fae". ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 12:59, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
- Oh, I daresay one of my Wikipediocracy stalkers is trying find some daft mug to do this on their behalf. As it happens, Fae is my doppelgänger, for obvious reasons. --Fæ (talk) 13:04, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
- Fae, please don't let yourself be trolled! You're in the right here (repeating yourself a few times in one conversation is different from a signature) but their confusion is not obviously unreasonable. It's a minor point and only needs a minor response. Incidentally, if you wanted to use it, Worm that turned's code can be tweaked a bit closer to yours at ▼, though it still seems a little narrow-hipped to me. Wnt (talk) 02:43, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
- Oh, I daresay one of my Wikipediocracy stalkers is trying find some daft mug to do this on their behalf. As it happens, Fae is my doppelgänger, for obvious reasons. --Fæ (talk) 13:04, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
- I'm surprised they haven't hassled you over "Fæ" vs. "Fae". ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 12:59, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
- Sure. Lots of folks use it. Oddly enough, it's not the n-dash or m-dash or whatever it is that certain editors obsess over. Anyway, no one has ever griped about my arrows. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 12:03, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
- See the double dash? That's a standard separator between a signature and the sentence. If you look at MZMcBride's signature, it uses the same standard and is a bit of an obvious give away. --Fæ (talk) 23:08, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
- I expect you're talking about this:
- I'm talking about editors who use little hearts, clubs, airplanes, and such as that. Regarding my signature, do you mean the little arrows? That's for some separation. Is there something else I should use? ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 22:42, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
- Baseball Bugs, well there does seem to be a pattern on Misplaced Pages. Any time something has the look of LGBT positive messages, some people seem to behave rather strangely. The pink triangle is probably the real issue here, don't you think? Thank goodness we can safely assume none of this has anything to do with my personal life. What is really bizarre is that I have never, at any time, had an image, of any kind, in my signature. Thanks --Fæ (talk) 22:19, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
- I know of other users that have symbols in their signatures. Why they're targeting you is hard to figure. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 22:11, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
- You appear to be shouting, not ideal if you are attempting to advise me on civil behaviour. --Fæ (talk) 21:52, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
- WP:DEMONSTRATION --MZMcBride (talk) 21:36, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
- Maybe the complainant could explain why your little triangle is so horrible, while this gaudy signature is somehow OK. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 14:44, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
- To everybody in a nutshell: Fæ has told us all that Fæ was pasting this in just before Fæ's signature. I'm not sure why everybody obsessing about it. Symbols and images can be used as long as it's not an image file. That means Clubs, Spades, Diamonds, Hearts, arrows, and triangles can all be used as long as it's not being drawn from an image file.
To Fæ: I would suggest to you when doing that next time to try and not paste it front of your signature to avoid these kinds of conflicts because to post do look a little suspicious.—cyberpower Online 20:42, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
- To everybody in a nutshell: Fæ has told us all that Fæ was pasting this in just before Fæ's signature. I'm not sure why everybody obsessing about it. Symbols and images can be used as long as it's not an image file. That means Clubs, Spades, Diamonds, Hearts, arrows, and triangles can all be used as long as it's not being drawn from an image file.
British Library
Hi!
This is just to let you know that I've just recently started as the Wikipedian in Residence at the British Library, building off the 2011 British Library project which you participated in. I'll be working here full-time for the next six months; I'm still meeting people here to discuss projects that they're interested in working on, but if you've any suggestions, please do let me know!
We've currently got two events in the calendar:
- World War I Editathon, 16 June - organised jointly with JISC
- GLAM-WIKI 2012, 14-15 September - conference hosted by WMUK and the British Library
and I'm in the process of restarting the individual collaborations program - there's currently one article with a specialist looking for a Wikipedian, and hopefully I'll be adding more over the next few days.
(I'm planning to use the old participants list for any future messages - if you'd rather not be contacted, please leave a note there.)
Thanks, Andrew Gray (talk) 11:28, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for sending around the update. You may want to ping a note on the Wikimediauk email list so that more interested folks know where to sign up for on-wiki updates. --Fæ (talk) 11:53, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
Hiya!
Can we be friends? Arcandam (talk) 11:14, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
- Of course. I always think of debate and disagreement on-wiki as completely separate from respect for the person, and the opportunity to make friends in our strange collaborative space. --Fæ (talk) 11:18, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
- Whooohoo! Remember, we may disagree now, but there are plenty of other things we (probably) agree about. I believe Sceptre is capable of answering the three questions I asked him at WP:ANI in such a way that I don't have to worry that this will ever happen again. Arcandam (talk) 11:24, 10 May 2012 (UTC) p.s. It seems User:Fæ/events contains an error BTW.
- Thanks for pointing out the error. My page is fine, however some prawn has broken
{{dts}}
. Too busy to investigate this week, so I'll cross my fingers and hope some template gnome sorts this out. --Fæ (talk) 13:26, 10 May 2012 (UTC)- Yeah, it seems to be pretty hard to fix. Sorry, I do not have enough template expertise to fix this, it probably needs to reverted to an old version, but I do not know which one. Arcandam (talk) 15:58, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for pointing out the error. My page is fine, however some prawn has broken
- Whooohoo! Remember, we may disagree now, but there are plenty of other things we (probably) agree about. I believe Sceptre is capable of answering the three questions I asked him at WP:ANI in such a way that I don't have to worry that this will ever happen again. Arcandam (talk) 11:24, 10 May 2012 (UTC) p.s. It seems User:Fæ/events contains an error BTW.
Notice
Sorry the talkback on twinkle didn't leave the message I intended. I just wanted to make you aware I've replied to User_AndyTheGrump_continues_with_personal_attacks, the diffs are not new. IRWolfie- (talk) 10:51, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks, I did indeed make an error and I'm grateful you pointed it out. Cheers --Fæ (talk) 11:01, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
- No worries, I made the same mistake when I first saw it too. IRWolfie- (talk) 11:05, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
Cite toolbar
The "Cite" option in the toolbar is missing most of the times in the window while editing. I can't figure out the issue. —Vensatry (Ping me) 07:32, 12 May 2012 (UTC)