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- Gustave de Zarbouble (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- John Bargel (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- La Maison du Guozbongleur (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Related articles that also seem to be hoaxes. Peter E. James (talk) 15:18, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
Seems non-notable and possibly a hoax, as it is not mentioned in two of the three sources cited (I haven't been able to find the third). No non-Misplaced Pages mentions of this word online. Peter E. James (talk) 12:17, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- Delete ‣ Yes, appears to be a WP:HOAX along with connected articles. No hits in Google News, Books, or Scholar, nothing non-Misplaced Pages in a general Google search, and even fewer hits when the search language is limited to French. --▸∮truthious ᛔandersnatch◂ 13:10, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- Delete all. I couldn't find notability and it smells like a hoax, to me. From following links within the article, I'm also concerned about Gustave de Zarbouble (aka "Zarbublius" — seriously?), John Bargel (aka "Snargelius" — seriously?) and the alleged restaurant La Maison du Guozbongleur . My suspicion is that they're all hoaxes but it's possible that the restaurant was real and the rest were an invented story to explain the restaurant's name. My reasons for suspecting a hoax are as follows.
- Most important, none of them has any mention outside Misplaced Pages, its mirrors and spam pages that use text from WP to con search engines.
- None of these France-related articles appears in French Misplaced Pages.
- It seems terribly convenient and unlikely that the restaurant lost its Michelin star in January 1968 and closed two weeks later. Unless there was some disaster, surely the locals would continue to eat there, as well as visitors using older versions of the guide — a nearly-Michelin-starred restaurant is still a damned fine place to eat.
- All the names are absurd and sound like Pythonesque made up French names.
- Alleged involvement in the Affair of the Poisons (all the pages cite Anne Somerset's book on the subject) but no mention in that article.
- Pepys allegedly talks about Bargel but there's no mention of "bargel" or "snarg" in his diaries at Project Gutenberg or in the Google Books fragments of the cited book of Pepys's letters.
- A citation to Kepler's Somnium, which was written before Bargel's birth.
- Perhaps these other articles should be merged into this RfD? Dricherby (talk) 13:53, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- Possibly - I wasn't sure whether that could be done as they were created by different users (or more likely different sockpuppets), also I decided to wait for comments here before adding the other pages. There is another article, Robert de Baldoque, that probably needs to be checked, although it's possible that only a rename is needed there. Peter E. James (talk) 15:02, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- I've added the articles to the nomination. Peter E. James (talk) 15:20, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- I forgot to check creation and they were indeed created at substantially different times, by different users. But I do find it suspicious that all of these users follow the same pattern: huge bursts of editing (tens of articles over a few days), interspersed with periods of weeks or months of total editing silence.
- Captain Abu Read: 45 edits as a new user 2011/11/03-09, then 20 more 2011/11/16-18 and total silence since.
- Nellie Seamonster: 12 edits as a new user 2009/10/20, then 8 edits 2009/11/29, then 10 edits 2009/12/29, then 10 edits 2010/02/25 and nothing since (though these are often several small edits to the same page).
- Silver Starfish: 137 edits as a new user 2010/10/24-29, total silence before 90 edits 2012/04/22-27, total silence since then.
- One of the Ruins: 35 edits as a new user 2012/03/12-13 and silence since then.
- Doesn't prove anything but looks odd to me. Dricherby (talk) 15:35, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- I forgot to check creation and they were indeed created at substantially different times, by different users. But I do find it suspicious that all of these users follow the same pattern: huge bursts of editing (tens of articles over a few days), interspersed with periods of weeks or months of total editing silence.
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:04, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:04, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:04, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- Delete Guozbongleur is not in my French encyclopaedia or either of my French dictionaries. All articles look like hoaxes as per analyses above.—A bit iffy (talk) 11:19, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
- Comment Neither Gustave de Zarbouble nor Robert de Baldoque appears in the cited reference by Anne Somerset, which is a pretty clear sign that something is amiss. However, there are other references in the article about John Bargel and Guozbongleur, and presumably the reference to Kepler's Somnium is to the notes in that editon rather than Kepler himself. Has anyone actually checked those out? 94.197.237.95 (talk) 06:28, 31 May 2012 (UTC)