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Cathy Barry
I've asked this several times in edit summaries to the Cathy Barry article and you still have not supplied the needed info... Please add a reliable and verifiable (WP:RS, WP:V) source to your edits. You can do this with an inline citation (WP:CITE). You seem to be getting your info from a web site, so please cite it! For the third time now, what is "Companies House"? And finally, a screen shot that you have taken is NOT a reliable source. Dismas| 22:26, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Cathy Barry. Users who edit disruptively or refuse to collaborate with others may be blocked if they continue. In particular the three-revert rule states that making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period is almost always grounds for an immediate block. If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the talk page to discuss controversial changes. Work towards wording and content that gains consensus among editors. If unsuccessful, then do not edit war even if you believe you are right. Post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If edit warring continues, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Teapotgeorge 22:59, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
- Don't post a TIFF of the Companies' House website showing the information - better would be to post a link to the actual website page. As it is, we can't use the pic as we cannot independently prove the provenance. Two editors (Dismas and myself) have used the search engine provided to look for Cathy Barry, and we do not have any results coming back. Tabercil (talk) 00:09, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
Go to www.192.com (https://corporate.192.com/trace/index.cfm#); pay the subscription fee and then search for "Cathy Barry Bristol" and you will find her details. It's illegal to provide misleading information regarding company directors. It's not a porn site which is the so-called "verifiable" source that you are using. I can't sign this using tildes cos I don't have any on my keyboard.Only 1-0, A-Z and the following characters ¡€#¢∞§¶•ªºº–≠œ∑´®†¥¨^øπ“‘åß∂ƒ©˙∆˚¬…æ«Ω`≈ç√∫~µ≤≥÷ Shylocksboy
- There's a spot above the edit box which you can click to automatically insert a sig. Look for the pencil with some script writing, just to the left of "Advanced". --StarGeek (talk) 03:43, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
--Shylocksboy (talk) 03:45, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
Oh yes, so there is. Many thanks. --Shylocksboy (talk) 03:46, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
Content deletion
Please do not delete content from articles without first discussing your intentions and concerns and gaining consensus on the talk page. You have repeatedly deleted sourced content from the Abi Titmuss article without explaining 1) why you believe the content should not be there and 2) gaining consensus on the talk page. You even reverted another editor's restoration of your blanking with the edit summary "vandalism", which it clearly is not. Perhaps it would be helpful to take a break and read the links provided in the welcome message at the top of your talk page in order to educate yourself on the many Misplaced Pages editing guidelines and policies. If you have specific concerns regarding the content of a biography article you can post the information at the biographies of living people noticeboard for assistance. --Jezebel'sPonyo 15:19, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
- Am I missing something? The user's edit summary states that the reference doesn't have the content it is supposed to be sourcing.. which certainly seems to be the case. --CutOffTies (talk) 15:41, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
- I've struck the majority of my message above as it was not an inaccurate interpretation of the situation. I think the confusion came about as editors were attempting to communicate with each other via edit summary as opposed to using the talk page. I've left the link to WP:BLP and WP:BLPN as they are useful links for a new user editing in the areas that Shylocksboy appears interested. Apologies for any confusion and anything I may have done to contribute towards it. --Jezebel'sPonyo 16:09, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
- Am I missing something? The user's edit summary states that the reference doesn't have the content it is supposed to be sourcing.. which certainly seems to be the case. --CutOffTies (talk) 15:41, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
Hello I deleted the contentious Abi Titmuss material (twice) because 1) it is nonsense 2) it is libellous. No magazine that is freely available in shops would ever show pics of a blow-up doll covered in faeces. This is obviously someone's idea of a joke. I deleted it because it is surely a vandalisation of the page. The link was to an interview with porn star Ben Dover not as was stated an interview with Abi Titmuss. Hope this clears up this matter. --Shylocksboy (talk) 18:21, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
- I've replied to the cross-posted message on my talk page. --Jezebel'sPonyo 18:37, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
Maria Whittaker
Ta for your copy editing and your interest in glamour models !!!
--Whohe! (talk) 13:13, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
Ian Edmondson
I seaved your article on Ian Edmondson and added to it.82.18.199.36 (talk) 13:47, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
Re: Vera Renczi
I'm not sure you are aware of how Misplaced Pages works. I am not trying to be condescending. I am simply stating that the burden of proof lies with reliable sources. Every source I have used for this article is a reliable source. I have looked (since you questioned her existence) and I have not found any compelling evidence by any historian who has ever suggested or claimed she did not exist. If there were any doubts, I am sure I would have found them and I would have placed them into the article and cited the sources. Please read Misplaced Pages:Neutral point of view. All articles should be based on reliable sources. You simply can't insert your own POV into an article based on Original research. There is no reliable sourced evidence that I can find that Renczi didn't exist. Yes, I did create the article. No, I can't give you a year, because I couldn't find a reliable source for one. The best reliable source I could find was her birth year; any other date would merely be a guess, so I could not include it. If that somehow makes you dubious about her existence, I can't do anything about that, as I have no source telling me she never existed. The burden of proof doesn't lie with me, it lies with sourcing. As per the picture of Renczi, it was included in the article I linked to you here. That is a photograph of Renczi and her wine cellar, provided by a Romanian article about her. The photograph you linked me to here is a photograph of Belle Gunness. While it may be strange to you that particular years aren't known, I can't be called upon to prove her existence, when all reliable sources tell me she did exist. What you believe about author Colin Wilson is Original Research and can't be used on Misplaced Pages. I can believe (or make a case for) a many number of things - however, my opinion doesn't count for anything on Misplaced Pages. ExRat (talk) 06:39, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
"girlfriend" vs. "partner"
"Partner" and not "girlfriend" is preferred by many in the lesbian community (and in fact often describes a legal status and not just the fact of a relationship). Nicola Griffith expressed her dismay to see "partner" changed to "girlfriend" in her entry, so I changed it back; that's when I noticed you'd changed multiple entries in this manner. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cervenka (talk • contribs) 19:07, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
- I was actually just coming to talk about this same subject. I've asked around at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject LGBT studies & Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Biography if there are guidelines for this, if you want to weigh in on the discussion there. I reverted your change to Kelley Eskridge as well, since Miz. Griffith expressed her concerns, & I noticed that you'd made similar changes to Susie Orbach & Deborah Warner. Can I ask about your thought process? mordicai. (talk) 19:21, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
Yes, simply it is ambiguous to say partner when you mean girlfriend, lover, inamorata or the like. My agent is a woman - her partner is also a woman. If I refer to her and mention her partner, many will assume I mean lover when in fact I mean her business partner. Jerry Lewis was Dean Martin's partner, Eric and Ernie were partners, Stan and Ollie the same - they certainly were not lovers yet there is no differentiation when you merely state he/she is so and so's partner. And also, partner is such a cold word (mainly I presume because of the business aspect) whereas girlfriend, boyfriend, lover, etc is much warmer, much more romantic and much, much nicer and says far more about a relationship than saying, "This is xx, my partner." --Shylocksboy (talk) 21:52, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
- That is one interpretation, but when the people in question prefer the term "partner," which is in common usage for such relationships, I believe it's important to respect that. Terms like "boyfriend" and "girlfriend" do not necessarily convey the same meaning as "partner"; some view them as trivializing relationships. Nicola Griffith has explicitly stated that she prefers "partner" be used in her entry, so I think that's how it should remain. In her case, they are both business partners and domestic partners, so it's fitting in both contexts.Cervenka (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:07, 22 October 2011 (UTC).
- Yeah, besides self-definitional respect-- which is hard to know about in advance-- there is a questionable element of accuracy in terminology. Your point is well taken, but the waters are muddied by the dubious legal definitions available to same sex partners, you know? "Girlfriend" & "boyfriend" are contextual terms, especially when viewed with the lens of marriage discrimination, etc-- & with things like civil partnerships & non-legal weddings. Hrm. I'm hardly an expert in this, & I think it is a good area for Misplaced Pages to build some guidelines-- or I mean, maybe there are some, somewhere. In cases where the subject makes their relationship terminology explicit it is a no-brainer, but rules of thumb would he handy. Hahaha! "Rules of thumb would be handy." mordicai. (talk) 23:09, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
- In such usages as "She lives with her partner," and "He had a child with his partner," there's no ambiguity: the term clearly refers to a personal relationship, generally a committed one. In the case of gay and lesbian couples who cannot legally marry, "partner" often means "spouse in all but name," and treating it as synonymous with "boyfriend/girlfriend," "lover," or "inamorata" simply isn't correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.100.123.4 (talk) 00:41, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
Yes there is ambiguity. What about Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz? George Burns and Gracie Allen? And do sign your posts. --Shylocksboy (talk) 00:46, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
- Ambiguity is of course situational, that same could theoretically be said for the same-sex term "girlfriend," as platonic female friendships have been referred to that way in the past. Now, you might say that you'd have to be obtuse to purposefully misinterpret that but there you have it. Terms like "lover" aren't helpful, & "boy/girlfriend" as on a sliding hierarchy of terms of intimacy, as I mentioned. Maybe "romantic partner" & "business partner" would be more helpful elements of disambiguation? Anyhow, I think this is an opportunity for a robust discussion at either WP:BIO or WP:LGBT. -- mordicai. (talk) 16:30, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
Titmuss
I agree with you. I've brought up the Hullabaloo issue at User talk:Jimbo Wales. This editor removes any relationships from articles he comes across.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:26, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
Seems silly to have an article about Abi Titmuss and not mention John Leslie. Bit like an article on Eric Morecambe without talking about the one with the short fat hairy legs! --Shylocksboy (talk) 15:59, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
Shirley Bassey
Apologies, I should not have reverted all of your edits. But I don't understand your remark about her post-nominal. It is not just a stage name, she is a DBE. Nyctc7 (talk) 04:03, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, I know she is a DBE but usual style (although not in this case) is not to repeat the honour before and after the name. See my note about style from Debretts. --Shylocksboy (talk) 04:34, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
- A question of style. Perhaps you are right for encyclopedia and biographical entries. See Encyclopedia Britannica entries (as opposed to Misplaced Pages entries) for Winston Churchill, Paul McCartney, Maggie Smith, Diana Rigg, Helen Mirren, and so on. They say "Sir" or "Dame" without all the post-nominals. But see WP:POSTNOM (and scroll up a tiny bit). I guess the powers that be decided that post-nominals are included. To buck the trend here means changing it for Paul McCartney, Diana Rigg, Helen Mirren, etc, etc.--Nyctc7 (talk) 05:17, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Talkback
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May 2012
Please do not add or change content without verifying it by citing reliable sources, as you did to Gene MacLellan. Please review the guidelines at Misplaced Pages:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Dl2000 (talk) 15:35, 21 May 2012 (UTC) The source was the article itself (line 4)!!!!!!!!!! Open your eyes.--Shylock's Boy (talk) 21:31, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
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Speedy deletion nomination of File:Steen-d.jpg
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Photos
Hi, when you upload a photo here of a live person, we require that it have a free license. That means it is available for any use, including commercial, and also for modification. If David Steen actually owns copyright on the picture and is willing to grant a really free license then we can move forward from there. But for use on Misplaced Pages only is too restrictive for our free to use idea. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:03, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
- He does own the copyright of the photo.--Shylock's Boy (talk) 00:21, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
- Is he prepared to grant a creative commons CC-BY-SA-3.0 license? This will enable modification and any use. If so there will need to be a proof following the procedure in WP:PERMIT. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:14, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
Stop adding unreferenced material
Stop adding unreferenced material. Just because it is on a photographer's website does not make it true. Oh look, I have Jennifer Aniston's photo on my web site, but I didn't take it. There needs to be independent and reliable references per WP:SOURCES. Bgwhite (talk) 08:49, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
June 2012
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Edit warring
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