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Hi, this is Jobin, a new wikipedia user. I came to understand that you have an interest in Computer and related topics. I am working on a few articles related to Programming in C. Therefore, I kindly request you to help me on these topics
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WP:ARBR&I
Hi TrevlyanL85A2. ArbCom is aware that you are a real life friend of Ferahgo-the-Assassin. By editing in the area of the topic ban imposed on her and Captain Occam in the above case, your editing will probably be viewed as a means for them to bypass their ban through others. Another editor in the same situation is SightWatcher. In both cases, your real life identities are known by arbitrators. The simplest thing is for you to stop editing in that area. Appearing out of the blue with a campaign against a single editor looks particularly bad. Thanks, Mathsci (talk) 02:37, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
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WP:ARBR&I
I realize you're probably aware of this as you know editors who've been topic banned, but if you're interested in actively editing in the topic area, you might wish to review the WP:ARBR&I case, as well as the amendments to the discretionary sanctions: . Constructive editing is always welcome. aprock (talk) 17:41, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you for the notification. I understand this is a contentious topic area and I hope to work constructively with you and others. --TrevelyanL85A2 (talk) 18:24, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
- You have left links on your user page which identify you unambiguously in real life. You are a real life friend of Ferahgo the Assassin (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), who is indefinitely topic banned under WP:ARBR&I. A former arbitrator, Shell Kinney, has already verified this a long while back. If you continue editing tendentiously in this topic area (for example, your refusal to use sources), it is highly likely, per WP:MEAT, that the same topic ban currently applied to Captain Occam and your real life friend Ferahgo the Assassin will be applied to you. More than that, in fact: you could possibly all be community banned for a long term campaign of willful deception. Thanks, Mathsci (talk) 22:08, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
- I was under the impression you were asked by Arbcom to drop this. --TrevelyanL85A2 (talk) 06:02, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
- Then you are mistaken. From what I was told by Shell Kinney, ArbCom decided that problems with your editing would be dropped, provided your account (and that of Sightwatcher) stayed clear of articles connected with the topic bans of Ferhago the Assassin and Captain Occam. That does not seem to be the case now. You are involved in blatant meatpuppetry. Mathsci (talk) 06:10, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
- Nor is it a particularly good idea to bring your friend Ferahgo the Assassin into this, as you have just done. Your editing should simply stay completely outside the area of their topic ban. As you will see on WP:AE, it is now properly acknowledged that the issues of disruptive sockpuppetry and meatpuppetry are taken seriously in WP:ARBR&I. And it never seems to stop. For example Mikemikev just this week. His sockpuppet 스토킹 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is now indefinitely blocked. Why is your editing in this area any less problematic than that of Mikemikev? Mathsci (talk) 06:16, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
- No, he is not mistaken.
- Nor is it a particularly good idea to bring your friend Ferahgo the Assassin into this, as you have just done. Your editing should simply stay completely outside the area of their topic ban. As you will see on WP:AE, it is now properly acknowledged that the issues of disruptive sockpuppetry and meatpuppetry are taken seriously in WP:ARBR&I. And it never seems to stop. For example Mikemikev just this week. His sockpuppet 스토킹 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is now indefinitely blocked. Why is your editing in this area any less problematic than that of Mikemikev? Mathsci (talk) 06:16, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
- Then you are mistaken. From what I was told by Shell Kinney, ArbCom decided that problems with your editing would be dropped, provided your account (and that of Sightwatcher) stayed clear of articles connected with the topic bans of Ferhago the Assassin and Captain Occam. That does not seem to be the case now. You are involved in blatant meatpuppetry. Mathsci (talk) 06:10, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
- I was under the impression you were asked by Arbcom to drop this. --TrevelyanL85A2 (talk) 06:02, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
- February, Roger Davies asked you to leave it to uninvolved editors to bring it up if someone's editing is a problem.
- April, Risker told you clearly to disengage.
- September, Roger Davies and Cool Hand Luke both told you to disengage. From my understanding, the only reason you weren't given an interaction ban is because the arbitrators were confident you would follow their advice.
- And finally, less than two weeks ago you were formally warned by Jclemens to stop bringing up off-wiki evidence against other editors. You are clearly disregarding all of this advice.
- TrevelyanL85A2 didn't bring me into this; you did, as soon as you mentioned my name. I can't believe you're still bringing me up on Misplaced Pages after all this time. Over the past year or so I've put a lot of effort into contributing my skills and knowledge to other areas of Misplaced Pages, and in developing a history here that is separate and distinct from the topic that unfortunately caused us to cross paths. There is absolutely no reason for you to continue bringing up my name on Misplaced Pages, and treating other editors poorly because you associate them with me. This absolutely needs to stop.
- Please, Mathsci. You need to make an effort to assume good faith here and just let it drop so we can all move on. I really don't want to, but if you aren't willing to agree to stop (or if you just ignore this request), I will be forced to take the matter back to an amendment and push for that interaction ban. If you can't voluntarily let this go, I doubt that anything short of an interaction ban will put a stop to this. Can you answer me simply: will you please leave this alone and stop mentioning me & Occam on Misplaced Pages? -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 07:56, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
- I received several emails from Shell Kinney, which you are not privy to, which confirmed the identification of TrevelyanL85A2. It does not seem like a very wise move for you to be lobbying for your confirmed friends to edit in the exact area of your topic ban. I can see no difference at all between the edits of Mikemikev and TrevelyanL85A2. Both accounts are breaking topic bans set by ArbCom. Captain Occam already has spent a considerable amount of time wikilawyering on WP:AE both when a topic ban was proposed for Miradre and later during the subsequent appeal. That was an immense waste of time. I cannot see where good faith enters here: in this particular case TrevelyanL85A2 self identifies as a friend of yours. Since the area covered by WP:ARBR&I is rife with meatpuppets and sockpuppets, I doubt very much that any administrators or arbitrators would be sympathetic with measures which you (and previously Captain Occam) seek to put in place, the only result of which would be to make it easier for sockpuppetry and meatpuppetry to go undetected. Before WP:ARBR&I, there was no history of serial sockpuppetry in the topic area (apart from the easily recognizable sockpuppets of Muntuwandi). Since the close of that case, things have been very different. Mathsci (talk) 09:25, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
- Please, Mathsci. You need to make an effort to assume good faith here and just let it drop so we can all move on. I really don't want to, but if you aren't willing to agree to stop (or if you just ignore this request), I will be forced to take the matter back to an amendment and push for that interaction ban. If you can't voluntarily let this go, I doubt that anything short of an interaction ban will put a stop to this. Can you answer me simply: will you please leave this alone and stop mentioning me & Occam on Misplaced Pages? -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 07:56, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
The possibility of a topic ban on R&I is being discussed in WP:AE#Ferahgo_the_Assassin. I am not sure if you were already aware of this. --Enric Naval (talk) 17:24, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
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The following remedies have been enacted:
- Mathsci (talk · contribs) is admonished for engaging in battlefield conduct
- Ferahgo the Assassin (talk · contribs) and Captain Occam (talk · contribs) are site-banned from Misplaced Pages for a period of no less than one year. After one year has elapsed, a request may be made for the ban to be lifted. Any such request must address all the circumstances which lead to this ban being imposed and demonstrate an understanding of and intention to refrain from similar actions in the future.
- SightWatcher (talk · contribs) is indefinitely banned from editing and/or discussing the topic of Race and Intelligence on any page of Misplaced Pages, including user talk pages, or from participating in any discussion concerning the conduct of editors who have worked in the topic. This editor may however within reason participate in dispute resolution and noticeboard discussions if their own conduct has been mentioned.
- TrevelyanL85A2 (talk · contribs) is indefinitely banned from editing and/or discussing the topic of Race and Intelligence on any page of Misplaced Pages, including user talk pages, or from participating in any discussion concerning the conduct of editors who have worked in the topic. This editor may however within reason participate in dispute resolution and noticeboard discussions if their own conduct has been mentioned.
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Arbitration motion regarding Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Race and intelligence/Review
Resolved by motion at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment that:
FoF 2.5 in the Race and intelligence review be amended to read: Mathsci has engaged in borderline personal attacks and frequent battleground conduct.
For the Arbitration Committee,
-- Lord Roem (talk) 06:07, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
Enforcement
You have violated your topic ban. I have requested enforcement at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#TrevelyanL85A2. You may review and comment, as you may "within reason participate in dispute resolution and noticeboard discussions if their own conduct has been mentioned." Hipocrite (talk) 10:25, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
Please see Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#TrevelyanL85A2 Nobody Ent 21:47, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
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- Your edit here violates your topic ban. MastCell 22:11, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
Arbitration enforcement action appeal by TrevelyanL85A2 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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Statement by TrevelyanL85A2 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
I didn't know my comment for which I was blocked was a violation of my topic ban, as my comment had nothing to do with race and intelligence. I thought my topic ban meant I can't comment on the conduct of editors as it relates to R&I. I did not think it meant that whenever someone has formerly edited in the topic, after that I am permanently banned from commenting on their conduct on every part of the project. It didn't seem possible my ban could mean that, because I can't know every editor who's ever been involved in these articles, so this meaning of my ban would make it impossible for me to know all of whose conduct I'm not allowed to discuss.
What led to the current situation was Mathsci continuing to edit my user talk after I asked him to stop, and telling me I needed to bring this up with a member of arbcom. When I followed his advice, he continued baiting me there. Arbitrators have commented that their ruling about me does not allege recruitment or proxying (, ), so I consider Mathsci's continued claims that I'm just a mouthpiece for someone else, to be personal attacks. Is the opinion of AE that people who were previously involved in R&I are free to provoke me, and when they do my topic ban prohibits me from ever seeking any resolution? I don't understand how I'm supposed to handle these situations, so if I violated my topic ban it's because of that misunderstanding. Clarification would be helpful.
There is another issue here that concerns me. Mastcell blocked me less than an hour after Mathsci accused me of violating my topic ban here, and less than half an hour after I was reported at AE, before I or anyone else had time to comment. This is most troubling after Mastcell has performed other administrative tasks in response to private requests from Mathsci, as Mathsci mentioned here: "Irrespective of Jclemens' protection, the two pages were later deleted by MastCell following my request". I know said request was made privately because it wasn't anywhere public. It seems against the spirit of WP:INVOLVED for an admin to use their tools in a way favorable to an editor while privately in contact with that editor, especially when it involves overruling another admin or blocking someone.
I understand that perhaps AE can't resolve questions about admin involvement or problems caused by the wording of my topic ban. So the main reason I'd like to be unblocked is because if these issues can't be resolved here, I think I should raise them with arbcom. What needs resolution also includes the dispute between Mathsci, Nyttend, Collect, Future Perfect, Mastcell and Jclemens over when it is or isn't necessary to remove comments by Echigo Mole socks, especially in the user talk of people who don't want them removed. If AE isn't willing to lift my block completely, I'd like it to be lifted with the limitation that for the rest of its duration I can only edit pages related to requesting arbitration about these issues. If someone else requests arbitration and includes me as a party, I also would like to be unblocked so I can participate.
If this request is posted at AE, I also request that someone please notify Collect and Nyttend about it, as they were the other participants in the dispute at AN that led to my being reported.
Statement by MastCell (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)
Statement by (involved editor 1)
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Discussion among uninvolved editors about the appeal by TrevelyanL85A2 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Result of the appeal by TrevelyanL85A2 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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