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COIN Cleanup

I have attempted to address as many outstanding reports as possible. I have marked several as either resolved or stale (in my opinion, the line between the two is very thin). If you get a chance, please take a look at them and make a note if you think I have closed those cases in error. If there are no objections, I will archive those reports in the next day or two as I feel that all the clutter may be discouraging people from getting involved. OlYeller21 21:45, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

I have archived several resolved/stale sections. OlYeller21 16:04, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Template:COI

The {{COI}} tag is nominated for deletion, see the discussion. CharlieEchoTango (contact) 08:35, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Edit notice

I find that some users often come to this noticeboard and accuse another user of having a COI but present no evidence (unless the user's name clearly indicated a conflict per WP:DUCK). Before requesting a change to the edit notice of the noticeboard, I would like to see what others think about this issue. More exactly, is it uncivil or in bad faith to accuse someone at a noticeboard like this without presenting any evidence? Outside of civility, it doubles the work done assuming the person making the report did any research into the COI. Maybe it's something we can't change or isn't worth trying to change but I'm more interested in what others think about the issue of civility at this point. OlYeller21 16:58, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

It's not this noticeboard alone. Some users in content disputes make accusations of sockpuppetry, or whatever else will (if believed) get their opponent blocked from Misplaced Pages or at least sanctioned from editing on the topic. If you can get someone kicked out, you needn't persuade him nor risk his winning an argument. Not a new idea in the world, is it? --Raven (talk) 22:27, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

You're absolutely right. I'm not naive enough to think that we live in a fair world but that doesn't mean we can't strive for a fair world in our little corner of it. OlYeller21 00:11, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

If the discussion merely is an accusuation of COI without evidence, consider closing the discussion by adding
{{Discussion top|1=Closed by -- ~~~~}}
to the discussion top and
{{Discussion bottom}}
to the bottom of the discussion. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 11:31, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

I've always been weary of doing a hard close like that. I'm not opposed to it though. I'll consider using that method in the future. OlYeller21 23:39, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

It's hard to know in advance where a discussion will head. When it reaches time for a hard close, the damage already might be done. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 06:09, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

• We absolutely need a new approach. This discussion has been going on for 22 daysand any COI evidence has long since been presented and reviewed. COIN doesn't have anything set up to close such discussions. Seems that the COIN board will continue to be used until Toresbe is driven from the project. That isn't right. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 10:07, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

seealso

Should the {{seealso}} tag on the top of this noticeboard be changed? For example:

See also: Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Cooperation and Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Paid Advocacy Watch

Cheers. -- Eclipsed (talk) (COI Declaration) 19:52, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Adverse effects to CT

According to the header of the COIN: "This page is for reporting or requesting advice regarding conflict of interest (COI) incidents."

I think that COIs may be involved in the edits of adverse effects to CT. I have opened the discussion at the COIN in order to discuss the matter but the discussion was closed. No advice was given. Please advice. --Nenpog (talk) 15:21, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

This is just more typical behavior from a Tendentious editor. Just as he previously declared that everybody on Talk:X-ray computed tomography was wrong while he alone was right, then did the same thing on Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Medicine, Talk:Ionizing radiation, Misplaced Pages talk:No original research, Misplaced Pages:Dispute resolution noticeboard and User talk:Elen of the Roads, and now he is here saying that the volunteer who closed Misplaced Pages:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard#Adverse effects to CT was wrong and that only he, Nenpog, understands the rules under which WP:COIN operates. His previous block says it all.

I fully expect him to continue his blatant WP:FORUMSHOPPING in pursuit of someone who will tell him that the consensus at Talk:X-ray computed tomography is wrong and he is right. I suspect that his next step will be User talk:Jimbo Wales.

Nenpog asked for advice, so here it is: Drop the stick and back slowly away from the horse carcass. I hope this helps. --Guy Macon (talk) 18:19, 30 June 2012 (UTC)