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August 28

Searching for name of a travelling show on Discovery Channel

Hi, I am searching for episodes of a traveling show that used to be broadcasted on Discovery Channel in India during the late 90's. It involved a group of hosts visiting a city during a local event or fest. I am not able to recall the name of the show. The opening song of the show was this "hello world i've been waiting for a chance to see your face". Can anyone give the name of this show? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akshayps (talk • contribs) 15:52, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

You might take a look at these google results. A blog mentions the song and even has a request for identifying it--you might try contacting the poster and commenters. μηδείς (talk) 19:26, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi, Thanks for the help. The google search from the song didn't help, i got the answer from another forum i had posted the question on. Th show name is Travelers. Thanks for the help though — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akshayps (talk • contribs) 15:34, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Marshall Tucker Band

How did The Marshall Tucker Band get there name? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.48.133.14 (talk) 17:21, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

See the Misplaced Pages article titled The Marshall Tucker Band. --Jayron32 17:23, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Travellers

August 29

Al Jazeera English documentary soccer women

What is the name of the documentary that was about a Women soccer team founded by a woman whose father was a referee and she wanted to make a milestone by a first female referee and first female soccer team? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.53.229.64 (talk) 03:55, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Using my Google-fu skills, I was able to dig up This page which indicates that the documentary you are looking for may be called "Girls FC". It looks as though you can view the documentary online there. I don't know if this is the specific one you seek, but it's the best lead I could find. --Jayron32 04:04, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

I forgot to mentioned that it was in Egypt and in co-production of CBC-Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.53.231.80 (talk) 15:40, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

The Cube Guys

Does anyone have any information on The Cube Guys? I danced all summer to their song "La Banda" (or Hey Nino as it's commonly known). Misplaced Pages doesn't have an article on them.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:44, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Short animated film in late 1970s with Godzilla type creature destroying rapidly growing city?

Most if not all freshmen where I went to college got together in an auditorium and watched this film. Skyscrapers were shown growing like plants. There were no lines but there might have been music. Then the cities got so big that the monster attacked and destroyed them. We all were in classes on how to adapt to being in college, and each class was supposed to discuss the film afterward, only the professor was the dean of students and he had to discuss a student who was in trouble (me, as it turns out) with other parties involved at the time.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 20:00, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Is there any chance you're slightly misremembering and it's the Boléro section of Allegro Non Troppo? The timeline is right and the subject matter and lack of spoken lines kind of fit in. Matt Deres (talk) 20:43, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

That's definitely not it.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:16, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Shot in the dark here... Maybe Gerald Scarfe's "Long, Drawn-out Trip"? It has a King King scene in it. See . --Jayron32 22:24, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Nope. They would have never shown that naked woman. Remember, this is a college class assignment.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 16:57, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Paralympic filming

I believe for the Olympics, with the exception of NBC coverage who paid to have their own crews film US matches, OBS have responsibility for filming and distributing content to broadcasters and that they use their own crew as well as crews seconded from broadcasters. Is it the same for the Paralympics? 176.250.252.78 (talk) 22:33, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

The OBS website only mentions that they operate for the XXX Olympiad of London 2012, which tends to suggest not. --TammyMoet (talk) 09:01, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

This UK article "Paralympics TV deals break new ground as ticket rush continues" says; "...Locog sells the Paralympics rights directly. It must also pay the Olympic Broadcast Service for production of the coverage, which is provided free for the Olympics under the host city contract." Also "Paralympics 2012: cumulative television audience for Games will be over four billion..." states; "Locog has hired the Olympic Broadcast Service to film and distribute the pictures around the world." Alansplodge (talk) 17:51, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

And on the OBS website "ABOUT OBS > Past, Present & Future! we have (scroll down to the bottom of the window); "29 August - 9 September: Paralympic Games, London". Alansplodge (talk) 17:54, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Obviously they haven't got round to putting it on a more prominent position then! --TammyMoet (talk) 18:43, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Indeed. It took a bit of digging. Alansplodge (talk) 23:38, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

BULL ISLAND 2 LABOR DAY WEEKEND 2012, ANYONE HEARING OF THIS?

NEEED INFORMATION ON THIS, WHO TO CONTACT? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.81.234.98 (talk) 23:15, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

See http://www.sodapoprevisited.com/ . This is the 40th anniversary of the original Erie Canal Soda Pop Festival held on Bull Island. You can get all the information from that website. --Jayron32 23:54, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

August 30

Thinking about a cartoon

I'm thinking about a cartoon with had a character that was a green tyrannosaurus rex that I think wore a hat backwards. Does anybody know what this show is? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.85.199.242 (talk) 16:25, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Toy Story? --Jayron32 16:45, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

No, that's not it. It wasn't computer-animated. 143.85.199.242 (talk) 21:15, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Some of the Dinosaucers wore hats or headdresses. Can you give us any clue as to roughly when you saw the show? - Karenjc 21:51, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

What about Dinosaurs (TV series)? It was puppets, and not a cartoon, but perhaps that was it? --Jayron32 04:17, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

There's also Denver, the Last Dinosaur - sort of T.Rexish and with sunglasses, not a hat, but otherwise close enough I suppose. 164.71.1.222 (talk) 06:23, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

There were a few dinosaur-related cartoons kicking around in the 90s, another is The Adventures of T-Rex; intro on youtube - there's no baseball cap visible but it might be one of them's civvy-clothing. Also see the category Television series about dinosaurs for some other ideas. Someoneanother 18:21, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Are you maybe thinking Robbie from the American Sitcom Dinosaurs_(TV_series)?

Project G.e.e.K.e.R. is the show you are looking for, and if that isn't it, I don't know what is.

hot 100 chart

What artist was the oldest (in age) when they first debuted on the Hot 100 chart. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tommcw (talk • contribs) 17:02, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

I can't find exactly how old they were, but I would be surprised if it wasn't Los del Río. --Jayron32 17:10, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

This page has a sentence, apparently dating from around the time "Macarena" was released, saying that the members of Los del Rio were "both in their fifties". Walter Brennan was 67 when "Old Rivers" was released in 1962, and it hit number 5 on the Billboard Hot 100. I don't know that he's the oldest, though. Deor (talk) 17:21, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Was that his first entry, though? --Jayron32 17:25, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Well Walter Brennan#Singles seems to say that "Dutchman's Gold" reached #30 on the Hot 100 in 1960, when he still would have been 65 or 66. All his recordings date from the early 1960s, apparently (when he was starring in The Real McCoys on TV). Deor (talk) 18:05, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

It also depends on how you handle groups or members of groups or contributors to a song. Train, Train (Blackfoot song) made the Hot 100 in 1979; playing harmonica and singing backing vocals on the song was Shorty Medlocke, who would have been 68 or 69 at the time. --Jayron32 18:15, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

From List of Billboard Hot 100 chart achievements and milestones: "The previous record was held by George Burns, who was 84 years, 62 days old when his "I Wish I Was Eighteen Again" ended its chart run on the week of March 22, 1980." I can't find that he had ever had a recording chart before that, whereas Tony Bennett (who now holds the record for oldest to ever chart) obviously had many recordings that charted on the Hot 100 and its predecessor charts when he was younger, beginning in 1951, when he was 25 years old. Deor (talk) 18:55, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Do spoken word or comedy bits qualify? It may have been his first song, but that doesn't mean it was his first recording on the chart. Though, if it was, I would posit that you have found the winner. --Jayron32 18:57, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

September 1

Bourekas films list

Is there a website that list Israeli films as Bourekas films? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.31.23.58 (talk) 02:22, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

French films

Are there French films that deals with a hero of non-French origin (Arabs and African origin) and a heroine of White French origin? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.31.23.58 (talk) 02:42, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

The TV series Engrenages (marketed in English as Spiral) featured, in series 2, an undercover cop named Samy, of (I think) Moroccan descent. The main female character throughout the series, Captain Laure Berthaud (Caroline Proust), is white. I'm not sure to what extent either could be described as a hero/-ine though. They both have fairly serious character flaws, despite being on the side of the 'good guys'. - Cucumber Mike (talk) 18:28, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

It was an American film, but the characters and actors were French, Inglourious Basterds features a French couple which has an important heroic role in the film. He's black and she's white. --Jayron32 19:51, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

2 Days in New York is in theaters now (in the US). The story is about a married couple played by Julie Delpy (white French) and Chris Rock (african American). Staecker (talk) 11:40, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Taxi (the French film, not its inferior US remake) and its sequels, star Samy Naceri (of Algerian descent) trying to woo his white girlfriend Marion Cotillard while helping the police. Astronaut (talk) 19:19, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Sound recording error in Mrs. Brown ?

Near the end, when Queen Victoria and other women are walking down the hall to visit Mr. Brown, on his deathbed, the sound of rustling dresses overwhelms the sound track. Was this intentional, or a mistake ? StuRat (talk) 03:25, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Does the sound obscure any speech? If so, turn on the subtitles and see what they say. You might also want to check that both sound channels are working.--Shantavira| 07:50, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Power balance in ParaCycling

I'm watching the cycling at the Paralympics - right now it's the B1 time trial for blind cyclists on a tandem with a sighted pilot. The visually impaired athlete sits at the back and acts as the stoker. What I'm wondering is how much effect each of the riders contributes to the overall speed. Is the stoker the 'engine room' of the team, or could a better pilot have a disproportionate effect on performance? In other words, if I (a reasonably competent but unfit and slow cyclist) was to lose my sight, how close would I get to a Paralympic medal by teaming up with Sir Chris Hoy? (I'm aware that there are restrictions on using current world-championship cyclists, but let's assume that Sir Chris would give up his career for the chance to pilot me.) If it helps, the teams seem to be using in-phase pedalling, suggesting a fairly close balance of leg strength. I'm happy to pedal out-of-phase with Sir Chris when when we get to Rio though. - Cucumber Mike (talk) 09:42, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

If you look closely at the bike, you will see that the stoker's pedals are also connected to the pilot's pedals by a long chain. This arrangement seems to be quite vulnerable to mechanical failure as we have seen today. It means that the stoker provides most of the motive power for the tandem, as opposed to the "normal" tandem which is, in effect, two bikes stuck together as far as the pedal arrangements go. --TammyMoet (talk) 13:12, 1 September 2012 (UTC) The long chain is clearly visible in this image. --TammyMoet (talk) 13:14, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Sorry to be dense, but I don't quite understand. What's the difference between this arrangement and a "normal" tandem (assuming that I've linked to a normal tandem), and what effect does the chain link have on power? Is there anything like a Dynamometer test showing respective power of each rider? - Cucumber Mike (talk) 18:38, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

I see what you mean. I'd seen another picture of the paralympic tandem with two sprocket arrangements on linked by the long chain, but with each rider's sprocket also attached separately. There is a short chain as well as the long chain. I'll try and find another photo showing that. I had found a photo showing that but couldn't link to it. --TammyMoet (talk) 20:49, 1 September 2012 (UTC) Meanwhile, here is a link to our tandem article which covers different drive arrangements. --TammyMoet (talk) 20:52, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

I'm quite frustrated as I can't find a still picture of the coverage of the broken tandem that happened yesterday that showed the set up clearly. However, as I'm watching it this morning I can report that the pilot is pushing a smaller sprocket than the stoker. There's some sort of mechanism that allows both cyclists to pedal at the same rate. --TammyMoet (talk) 08:46, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Morning. Is the 3rd picture on this page what you're looking for? I'm starting to see what you're getting at - I can now see a visual difference between this arrangement and the road tandem - but I'm still not quite sure what the effect this has on power output - or whether this is a deliberate effort to ensure the stoker does most of the work, or a reaction to the fact that the stoker is a stronger pedaller. I found a discussion which asserts that 'the captain' (the front guy) does most of the work, but there's no citation for that - Cucumber Mike (talk) 09:47, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Ah yes. Now you can see that the pedals of the pilot are not attached to his own wheel at all, only to the pedals of the stoker. The pedals of the stoker are attached to his own wheel and to the pedals of the pilot. --TammyMoet (talk) 12:02, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

That's the same for any bike. The pedals are never attached to the front wheel. 109.99.71.97 (talk) 18:02, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Not necessarily: see Tandem_bicycles#Independent_pedaling .--TammyMoet (talk) 19:13, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Early television programming

The History of television article says there were television sets available in the UK from 1928 on. What sort of advertising was available that early? 69.62.243.48 (talk) 23:48, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps none. The article TV_advertising says that the first TV ad in the UK aired in 1955. RudolfRed (talk) 02:34, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

The first British television broadcast was made by Baird Television's electromechanical system over the BBC radio transmitter in September 1929. Baird provided a limited amount of programming five days a week by 1930. What kinds of programs were provided? 69.62.243.48 (talk) 03:28, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

The first British television play: The Man With the Flower in His Mouth on 14 July 1930. Clarityfiend (talk) 04:20, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

The first commercial television station didn't start broadcasting until 1954. --TammyMoet (talk) 08:43, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

September 1955 to be exact. Before that, the British Broadcasting Corporation had a monopoly. The BBC is funded by everybody buying a licence for their television (in those days you needed a radio licence too), and so is wonderfully free from advertisements. Whether it's worth the £145.50 we have to pay for it these days is a matter of debate. Alansplodge (talk) 21:13, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Some information about BBC TV in the 1930s is here.

But most of that is about radio. I also found The First Colour Television Transmission which mentions Baird's television demonstrations at the Olympia exhibition hall in London; "...which included half an hour of songs and droll Irish stories by a star of the day, Peggy O’Neil, and the world’s first television advertisement, for the Daily Mail. In 1929 Baird provided the first-ever BBC television programme, in black-and-white, which led to half-hour programmes five mornings a week, and in 1931 screened the Derby, with much favourable publicity." Alansplodge (talk) 21:28, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

There are a few scanned pages from the Radio Times here, covering 1936 to 1939. (The 1936/37 pages cover the period when the BBC alternated between the Baird system and the Marconi/EMI system each week). Primetime highlights for a Friday night in November 1936 include "A Laundry Demonstration" with Mrs Daisy Pain, which included "some tips about ironing" FlowerpotmaN·(t) 22:38, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

(PS) And there's a programme schedule for the Baird 30-line broadcasts from December 1930 here. FlowerpotmaN·(t) 22:56, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for those links, Flowerpotman, which I found absolutely fascinating. Leaving aside the dubious political correctness of some of the items, I think it says a lot that I would rather watch variety acts and laundry demonstrations than what passes for entertainment on British daytime TV these days. - Karenjc 12:10, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

September 2

Infield fly

Baseball question—why do infielders catch a ball when the infield fly rule is invoked? The batter is out anyway, so why do they make the effort to catch the ball? Is it counted as an error if they let it fall? 71.146.4.142 (talk) 19:52, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

If they let it fall, and it takes a bad bounce and gets away from them, the runners could advance. RudolfRed (talk) 19:57, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Indeed, while the batter-runner is out when the infield fly rule is invoked, the ball is still live, so if the infielder were to let it drop, and it bounced off unpredictably, the other runners are allowed to advance. --Jayron32 20:05, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

RudolfRed and Jayron32 have nailed this one. (A secondary point is that if it's not clear whether the ball will land fair or foul, the infielder would need to set up to catch the ball to get the out even if it winds up foul. The batter is automatically out under the infield-fly rule only if the infield fly is fair.) Newyorkbrad (talk) 20:14, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Plus, there's also the practice of catching the ball is so ingrained in baseball players that it is difficult not to. It's also why basketball players will still lay the ball into the hoop even well after the score wouldn't matter (like at the end of the quarter of obviously after a foul or shot clock violation). They've got the ball in their hands, there's a hoop, and they just put it in without a careful assessment of whether or not it is the best course of action. Likewise, the baseball player catches the ball just because he can, not because he's carefully weighed and considered all of the various implications, and decided that it is absolutely necessary. A lot of sports is automatic: you do what you are trained to do. There isn't time to think, so you train yourself to react and not think. --Jayron32 20:25, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. 71.146.4.142 (talk) 00:43, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Another way to put it is that although the batter is out, it is otherwise a normal fly ball. So, as noted above, if the infielder lets it drop, accidentally or on purpose, runners can try to advance, or they can stay put, as they choose. However, if a runner has wandered off base before the ball was caught, the ball could then be caught and the runner could be doubled up. That would be known technically as a "bonehead" play by the runner. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 22:12, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. 71.146.4.142 (talk) 00:43, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. 71.146.4.142 (talk) 00:43, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. 71.146.4.142 (talk) 00:43, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. 71.146.4.142 (talk) 00:43, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

There are occasions when the fielder will let the ball drop on purpose, hoping to catch a runner trying to advance. 69.62.243.48 (talk) 02:42, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

The infielder has to be careful. As per rule 6.05(l): If he lets the ball hit the ground untouched, you're right. But if he touches it on the fly and then purposely drops it, then the batter is out, the ball is dead, and the runners are not forced. This is true in any force situation, i.e. even if there is only a runner on first base. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 13:42, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Yes, although that's always a tough call for an umpire. The most famous non-call where that allegedly happened was in a World Series game in the 1970s—I was reading about it in an umpire's memoir, probably one of Ron Luciano's books, I'll have to find it—but the controversy over whether the ball was dropped on purpose was swallowed up because that was the same play on which (depending on whom you believe) a throw hit Reggie Jackson in the hip, or Reggie Jackson put his hip in front of a throw. Newyorkbrad (talk) 15:09, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

1978, Game 4, 6th inning. Box score: There may be some Youtube footage, but my buffering is slow as a dog today. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 21:57, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. 71.146.4.142 (talk) 00:06, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. 71.146.4.142 (talk) 00:06, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

September 3

"Mermaids: The Body Found"

What kind of game are the producers playing in Mermaids: The Body Found? It's aired on Discovery affiliates like a documentary; it starts out with a very plausible description of the Navy being involved in some kind of very loud low-frequency sound production that injured and killed whales. But then it moves into complete weirdness about mermaids at sea, based on photos so iffy that even a sympathetic eye can't find in them what is claimed. I looked up "Paul Robertson" and NOAA and see claims online that he is altogether imaginary. Is this some kind of Navy disinformation campaign about what's really going on with underwater noise, or producers with half a dozen reels of snippets trying to splice together an hour-long feature, or what? Can anyone explain the genesis of this ... object? Wnt (talk) 01:29, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

The article Aquatic ape hypothesis could be of interest. --Cookatoo.ergo.ZooM (talk) 11:03, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Unfortunately, some of the specials run by channels that are supposed to be "educational" are giving false credence to conspiracy theories and hoaxes. I recall something the History Channel ran last May, which was riddled with factual errors and consequent crazy speculation. I saw that "mermaid" ad the other day, and my immediate thought was, "The Discovery Channel has literally gone off the deep end." ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 13:34, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Hey, I believe in the "aquatic ape hypothesis", sort of, if you count that what I mean is an origin at the Okavango Delta where fire and water periodically reshape a highly chaotic landscape. Several species evolved special foot adaptations there, of which humans would be one; navigating the deep waters upright is known to the Chacma Baboons ... and the regular pattern of wildfires surrounding the area creates a huge precedent of cooked food waiting for those clever enough to dodge the flames. And I believe in mermaids, at least if you count sirenomelia... it's just the part about free-ranging tribes of ocean-faring humanoids that I balk at. Wnt (talk) 23:42, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

If they've got evidence to present in support of that hypothesis, that's fine. But as you noted, the ads for the show are slanted in the same way as you might expect from a pseudo-documentary about the Loch Ness Monster. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 00:00, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

I am looking for a good RP(Role playing) experience online

I am looking for a good RP(Role playing) experience online. where can i get one i have thought of making a few games on here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.16.47.115 (talk) 03:35, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Our article Role-playing game links to various places you may find helpful, including various lists of role-playing games. If by "on here" you mean hosting role-playing games on Misplaced Pages, I'm afraid that's not permitted: Misplaced Pages is not a webhost or a social networking site. - Karenjc 08:22, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Crazy Horse

I'm trying to identify the band members of Crazy Horse on this picture. I'm fairly sure the one on the left is Danny Whitten, and the one on the right might be drummer Ralph Molina. The picture was taken on 21 June 1972. Who can help me? Mathonius (talk) 16:16, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

I think the one with the mustache is Billy Talbot (bass) - check this photo here. --TammyMoet (talk) 18:04, 3 September 2012 (UTC) And the one with the shades is Jack Nitzsche, per this image here. --TammyMoet (talk) 18:09, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much! :) Mathonius (talk) 18:34, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

I'd've thought the guy on the left would be Sitting Bull. ←Baseball Bugs carrots→ 22:03, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

By the way, the photo is a cropped, b/w version of (or, at least, taken at the same shoot as) the photo on the cover of Gone Dead Train: The Best of Crazy Horse 1971–1989. The full photo shows a 5th person, standing with their back to the camera. - Cucumber Mike (talk) 08:28, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Episode plot about a community in which everyone stays youthful but has to die when reaching a certain age

I think it's an episode of some TV show that I saw years ago. The storyline is roughly this: there's an out-of-the-way town or community with a secret--the residents stay youthful despite their physical age but they have a covenant among themselves that when someone reaches a certain age (100 years old, or something like that), the person will have to die.

I thought it was an episode of The X-Files, but I've searched the Web and couldn't find the it.

Can someone help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.49.9.225 (talk) 22:39, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

It sounds like a varient on the well known book and film Logan's Run, though the age when everyone is expected to die is 21 (in the book) or 30 (in the film), not 100. There was also a short lived TV series Logan's Run (TV series). The theme of programmed death at a certain age is a common one in various works of dystopian science fiction as well. --Jayron32 22:43, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

The arrangement Jayron32 describes – a government/society imposing mandatory suicide/euthanasia at a specified age – has long been a theme in science fiction. Our article on benevolent suicide mentions several works that incorporate this concept; Isaac Asimov's Pebble in the Sky is probably the earliest well-known work of this genre.

However, none of those stories deal with effectively-immortal (or extremely long-lived) individuals who commit suicide as a (rather dramatic) way to conceal their extremely slow aging. Most secretly-immortal fictional characters tend to take the less-final approach of periodically assuming new, younger identities (sometimes as 'their own' child or grandchild); see TV Tropes' entry for My Grandson Myself for any number of such examples.

TV Tropes also offers up the theme of We Will Have Euthanasia in the Future for yet more mandatory-suicide dystopias. Unfortunately, I still can't find the TV episode the original poster is looking for. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 23:26, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

"Miri" (Star Trek: The Original Series)? Clarityfiend (talk) 03:25, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Also "Half a Life" (Star Trek: The Next Generation).    → Michael J Ⓣ Ⓒ Ⓜ 03:57, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Darn. Someone beat me to the Star Trek cites. Newyorkbrad (talk) 13:26, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Closest X-Files storyline is Gender Bender, which is half the story arc. Dru of Id (talk) 04:39, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Jack Vance's novel To Live Forever has a related motif. —Tamfang (talk) 19:21, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

September 4

Who or what the robot Calculon in Futurama was based on?

Who or what the robot Calculon in Futurama was based on? Neptunekh2 (talk) 20:25, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Where can I read PPsailor moon]] Kodansha comics online? Not the old mixx version.?

Where can I read sailor moon Kodansha comics online? Not the old mixx version.? Neptunekh2 (talk) 20:44, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

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