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DUP-UKIP-BNP Merger

I have removed the above section. There are a number of reasons for doing this, and I don't attempt to prioritise them:

- the section appeared twice. I'm sure this was an oversight, but at least one version had to go
- nothing in it was sourced. Misplaced Pages is an encyclopaedia, and we need to be able to say where our information comes from.
- to me, it doesn't feel as if this is the right article for this information. The tone of the existing article seems to be about British Nationalism in general, and admits of the possibility at least that there may be a left wing variety, but the new information is about parties which would happily define themselves as being on the right.

If the information can be verified, then there's a place for it in wikipedia. But I'm not sure this article is the place.

Grblundell (talk) 12:54, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Lede

This sentence in the lede does not actually make sense:

As Britain has been the place where both Conservatism and Liberalism have grown, Nationalism has been new to both the 20th and 21st century ever since the collapse of the British Empire, mass immigration, globalism and the EU resulting with extreme opposition from Nationalist groups such as the National Front which gained mass support in the 1970s and today's British National Party. Some elements have occurred in the United Kingdom Independence Party where they have eschewed the EU and have a 5-year pause on immigration.

I am removing it. It needs re-writing if it is to be included.BobFromBrockley (talk) 15:03, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Nationalism and Unionism

This section looks like it needs to be redone and reorganised as it appears to have strayed from actually explaining that English/Scottish/Welsh/Irish nationalism and unionism are opposing political forces/British nationalism is associated with unionism. It could generally do with a bit of restructuring, in my opinion. It also seems quite lacking in references.--Jonesy1289 (talk) 01:05, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Labour, Lib Dems?

I don't really see how Labour or the Liberal Democrats are British nationalists to any notable extent--Matt Downey (talk) 14:11, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Note to people who keep removing this: Irish people have been considered a British people by British nationalists, and currently there are more Irish living in the UK than in the Republic of Ireland

Regardless of the political conflict between Irish nationalists versus the British government, the fact remains that British nationalism is based upon the view that all people of the British Isles as being British people - including English, Irish, Scottish, and Welsh peoples in particular. The UK has accepted the independence of the Republic of Ireland, but that does not mean that ethnic Irish have ceased to be viewed as a British people, the UK continues to use the Irish Saint Patrick's Saltire on the Union Jack, and the UK's coat of arms include the Irish Clàrsach. As of today, the ethnic Irish population in Britain is NOT small or insignificant, note that current statistics state that while 4,500,000 ethnic Irish live in the Republic of Ireland, that a larger number of 6,000,000 ethnic Irish live in the United Kingdom.--74.12.192.5 (talk) 22:31, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Thats your opinion, not back it up with some citations. Also if you are editing under different ID please stop. Leave the article as it is until you have agreement here to change it. ----Snowded 06:49, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

BNP don't belong in this article

The BNP has no place in this article, as stated on their wiki page they are white nationalists, they don't need a special mention on a page about British Nationalism. There is no mention of Neo-Nazi groups in the American Nationalism wiki page and no mention of the National Front in the French article which is a huge party compared to the BNP.JasonnF (talk) 07:28, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Are you actually suggesting the BNP are not British nationalists? 2 lines of K303 07:36, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
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