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• Oct 2005 - Feb 2006

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Hi. thx for the guidance and teaching. I'm currently working on a project about some chemicals like: caffeine, inositol, chitosan, psyllium, and etc. please let me know if you need some material. thx. Tasfan 04:07, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Also Created Heptanol PNG

Sometimes it is realy stupid to work offline and to draw a picture and than to go back online and the picture has already been uploaded. I have always to decide between hate anger and the wish to through my computer out of the window, or the happines and the great feeling that other also do a good job and that Misplaced Pages is there for on the best way. And than the decision is easy and I like the people who are a little bit faster than me! Next time I will be take the advantage of my timezone and be faster!Stone 14:52, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

It is OK! I creat other images which are needed! Thanks!Stone 21:27, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey med chem

Med chem here too. I used to work for Merck. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 02:24, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

I don't think there are many of us here. You're the first I've "met". Edgar181 11:48, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

3-Methylcrotonyl-CoA carboxylase deficiency

Good catch. The two pages are now merged. --Arcadian 16:43, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Ephedrine Image

Thank you for pointing out the faults of the image. Stereochemistry didn't even occour to me (that was pretty stupid on my part, hah hah). I re-did the image for stereochemistry, saved it in PNG, and tried to address the thicker bonds issue (I do agree - it looks better). Hopefully the new .png image will due a lot more nicely than the non-stereochemical .jpg.

Again, thanks for pointing that out.--Ddhix 2002 20:43, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

That one looks good. Sorry about that, again. I should probably get some sleep within the next couple of hours, since my brain is turning to mush.

What program are you using for the drawing? I like the appearance of those better than what MDL Is/Is Draw does.--Ddhix 2002 21:04, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Judicial Tyranny

Could you please review the older version Judicial tyranny article, which I have reinstated in response to the deletion nomination, which I believe resolves the objections to the current, quite inappropriate, article. Judge Magney 16:35, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Tawkerbot2

Well, everything is logged in MySQL so grabing stats should be as simple as writing a SQL query for the paramaters. -- Tawker 19:21, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Re: New fatty acid images

Nice job with the illustrations of Stearidonic and ALA - I really like the blue / red way of showing the α and ω numbering. If you're feeling ambitious, several related pages could use your skills:

• Docosapentaenoic_acid - both isomers
• Docosahexaenoic acid
• Gamma-linolenic acid
• dihomo-gamma-linolenic acid
• Epoxyeicosatrienoic acid

Thanks David.Throop 00:13, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Very nice labeling indeed - the red/blue notation reconciles the 2 nomenclature systems very clearly. Who knows? one day we may see laymen and journalists making casual references correctly. Istvan 01:57, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Kermes mineral, Kermite and medicinal uses of antimony

Hello, I seem to be working on the Kermese mineral and Kermite. Should I include a table to the antimony page that clarifies the uses of antimony compunds in the history of medicine? I was not sure how pertinent that would be to the antimony article or whether I should just restrict the information that is applicable to Kermes mineral. As you can tell, chemistry is not my field.

Nitriles are not all bad

Dear Edgar 181, if you have the inclination, it would be nice to have a medicinal chemist mention any nitrile-containing drugs on the cyanide page. I think that readers should know that even though HCN and NaCN etc are very unhealthy indeed, that CN groups per se are not always bad. --Smokefoot 05:27, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

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Sucrose Article

Dear Edgar181,

The reason I reinserted the edit on this page is to give credibility to a mock trial that a group that I am part of has to do for a chemistry class. The mock trial is tomorrow and we get extra credit in our group if we can "BS" the other group about thier subject. The "defendant" group is defending sucrose's place as "the best known soluble substance in water." Our group, the "plaintiff" is "bringing suit" to claim NaCl as the substance that should be known as the "common person's compound of choice when it comes to describing the solubility of a substance in water". Our group, the NaCl people, can get extra points if we can BS about sucrose. Getting to the point, I was wondering if you could allow that edit to stand until tomorrow afternoon, so that we can get some extra credit and have a better chance of passing this class! Please help! Thank you. 198.110.32.2 19:20, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, but I couldn't possibly see using such a trivial reason as that to leave inaccurate information in an encyclopdia article. --Ed (Edgar181) 19:25, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Maybe you can offer us some assitance then? What should our main argument be for NaCl being better at describing solubility in water? We were thinking that it is easier for a "common person" to understand because the solubility of NaCl does not change (much) with temperature, while sucrose solubility in water does. Having one less variable is always good when trying to explain something, right? 198.110.32.2 19:29, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Well, debate strategy is not exactly my strong point, but I would probably try to argue that exposure to salt solutions when at the beach, or swimming in the ocean is a much more personal experience than any kind of experience with sugar solutions. --Ed (Edgar181) 19:36, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the input! We didn't think of that one! We were also wondering what your personal opinion, as a PhD chemist, about NaCl versus Sucrose as a compound used for describing solubility in water? Do you think that sucrose is the best substance to use in order to describe solubility to a "lay person", or do you feel that NaCl is better to use when describing solubility? One more question (if you don't mind!): What would the world be like if NaCl were insoluble in water? Thanks much. 198.110.32.2 19:44, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Frankly, I don't think it would make much difference when describing solubilty to a "lay person" whether I used salt or sugar as an example. This is probably why you have this question to debate. Since there isn't a clear answer to the question, the "winner" of your debate will depend on your debating skills, rather than the science. To answer your last question, life as we know it wouldn't exist if NaCl were not soluble in water - sodium cations are essential to the transmission of signals through nerve cells. --Ed (Edgar181) 20:20, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the info!

I was unaware of using the tildes to show your signature after editing a page, as I thought that Wiki did this for you automatically. Just goes to show you that us rank amateurs like me need all the help we can get.

The other links you provided should prove to be helpful also. Now, lets see if I can get this signature thing to work right. TomHawkey 13:37, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Success!!! Thanks again! TomHawkey 13:39, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your welcome message

Hi, Ed. Thanks for your warm welcome message. It's quite encouraging to see people paying attention to what you do. I'm currently working on the isoquinoline article, wich was only a little bit more than a table. I saw it was listed as a stub on the WP:Chem compound goal list, so I chose it as a start. When I'm done, I'll let you know, so you can help me bring it out of the stub state.

Thanks again. --Nevermore78 20:38, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi Edgar!

Hi Edgar, how's it going? I just received your message. Its nice to know that there are live people in the universe and not automatic joining messages. I think Misplaced Pages is great as I use it for every one of my reports. Im currently thinking of making a new addition to one of the Pikmin or Runescape pages.

Thanks Edgar! Bulbear 287 18:55, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

High-C

I was wondering why you are trying to delete the High-C entry? The criteria, I believe, was two indy releases? Those criteria were met. What is your reasoning? Jason Gortician 22:21, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Actually, WP:BAND says, "Has released two or more albums on a major label or one of the more important indie labels (i.e. an independent label with a history of more than a few years and a roster of performers, many of which are notable)." I don't see High-C meeting that criteria. If you disagree with me, that's fine. Feel free to make a different recommendation than me at the article's AFD; your opinion counts just as much as mine. --Ed (Edgar181) 23:25, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

hi

Hi Ed. Thanks for your comment on my talk page. Very surprised that you'd notice a new wiki member, especially so quickly. Just curious - how did you find me?

Anyway, I drew a picture using ChemSketch on the synthesis of benzoic acid on its page benzoic acid. Any comments? Is it too involved for the non-Chemist?

I had misgivings about that entire section, because there seems not much point in synthesizing such an easily available product. Also because there are so many different routes to benzoic acid. None of these routes are important industrially.Rifleman 82 21:08, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your welcome message

Hi Edgar. Thanks for your welcome message. I've been around here for a while, I just was trying to get used with the interface. However I really need all the help I can get because I don't know everything about Misplaced Pages. However I'll try to keep on the 'minor constructive' changes so I can do at least something for this special and important project.

I'll start to translate some articles from english to spanish because It's very sad to see fewer articles in spanish and other languages. However, I really would like to people request the translation of an article on something like this talk page. Is that possible?.

Again thanks a lot for your welcome message. Gives me the courage to keep helping and learn Misplaced Pages to help even more. Thanks.

*-FjjF-* 03:49, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

• -FjjF-* - Thanks

Hi Edgar. You know, I was reading the "Misplaced Pages" article and I found some cursing on the article (vandalism). How can I report that kind of activity and who should I contact. Other thing is, how can I now what user did that so I can report him.

Thanks a lot. *-FjjF-* 17:14, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank You

Thank You! J.Steinbock

Thank you for your kind message. J.Steinbock

Thanks for your answer...

Thanks for your answer it was really helpful.

Again Thanks *-FjjF-* 14:12, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. --Ed (Edgar181) 14:20, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Viagra

Ha, I did the same things! (Well, I tried adding it to the blacklist requests, but it didn't show up for some reason). I was considering adding those IPs to the proxy check as well to prevent them from doing harm in the future. On the bright side, it's giving a nice boost to our edit count, right? OhNoitsJamie 17:07, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Dear Edgar, Thanks for the Welcome. I have a question regarding the fair use of rasmol or jmol images created from the rcsb database. Can I upload these to wikipedia fairly? I was interested in doing some more adds to the GPCR site as structural details are sorely lacking. Thanks so much,Kris User Sterichinderance April 25,2006

SCOTW

Deryck C. 11:01, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Protecting group ketal vs acetal

While it's technically correct that a ketone becomes a ketal and an aldehyde becomes an acetal according to the original meanings of the words, "acetal" has become a generic term for both. DMacks 22:22, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Platique (disambiguation)

I've assumed that was really Plastique (disambiguation) and moved it. --Blowdart 18:02, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

D'oh! --Ed (Edgar181) 18:34, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

And to show off even more I also corrected the same mistake on Plastique. It's always fun when you're consistent! --Blowdart 18:39, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Methyl isocyanate edit

Thanks for putting the alternate methods of MIC back in. Why would anyone want to remove it? Oldsci 18:30, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Just vandalism, I guess. --Ed (Edgar181) 18:34, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Science barnstar

The E=MC² Barnstar In recognition of your creation of many (100-150) comprehensive and concise articles to chemical compounds, I award you this barnstar.ßlηguγΣη

Thanks!

Thank you for the kind welcome Edgar181. I hope I'll be able to contribute to the Misplaced Pages website in the future where I see it is needed.

AbsentAbe 16:45, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Rationales to impeach George W. Bush (2nd nomination)

You are invited to vote at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Rationales to impeach George W. Bush (2nd nomination). All this is is ramblings/blog/rants about Bush. Not encyclopedic, should've been deleted long ago. Happy editing! Morton devonshire 18:15, 3 May 2006 (UTC)