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I'm Haza-w, and I noticed that you haven't been welcomed yet, so I thought I'd drop you a note. We do have a lot of users, and are currently working on 6,929,982 articles, so things can be a little intimidating... but don't worry! We love to help out, and we'll try our best to make your stay here as comfortable as possible.
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I know it's a lot of information, but there are two more things I recommend you take note of while editing Misplaced Pages - cite references wherever possible, and avoid allowing personal biases interfere with your editing.

I hope you enjoy editing and being a Wikipedian - I definitely do. Although we all make mistakes, please keep in mind what Misplaced Pages is not. If you have any questions or problems, leave me a message on my talk page, and I'll try my best to help. Otherwise, please come to the New contributors' help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type {{helpme}} on your user page, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions.

We hope you stick around, and make sure you enjoy yourself! Cheers, haz (talk) 15:14, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Help desk

Responses have been made to your help desk query. You may view them at Misplaced Pages:Help desk#_would_like_to_edit_but..... If you wish to post a reply, then use the link in the section header. Happy editing! haz (talk) 15:14, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

On behalf of NY Roads

I see you're interested, we have 124 stubs left and anyone is usually around to help. We hope you enjoy your time with the project.Mitch32 01:15, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Kabbalah

You asked for a comment on why non-Jews get interested in Kabbalah. Kabbalah is an explanation of how the universe works, and what our relationship to God is. Furthermore, in the interpretation that is Hermetic Qabalah, it suggests ways and means of altering one's consciousness to come closer to God, and to more fully realise the divinity that resides in ourselves. Now, while this system relies heavily on the Hebrew alphabet and various texts from the Jewish Torah (and other mystical Jewish writings), there's no particular reason I (or many others) can see why it should be purely a Jewish system, since the implications of the system fit well with many different mystical creeds, probably better, even, than they do with orthodox Judaism. The mystical branches of all the main religions tend to have more in common with each other than they have with the more orthodox aspects of the religion they are supposedly part of.

I think the main reason why people gravitate towards Kabbalah is because it is such a rich and effective way of describing how things work. There's an initial very steep learning curve, and then, once you've got the structure figured out, you start seeing fantastic connections. The Kabbalistic tree of life is like an old and very effective diagram of how we relate to God and the world, encompassing everything from physiology to psychology to spirituality, "karma", fate, and so on. And it's not a rough diagram, but a very detailed and intricate diagram, and the fact that it works can be quickly established.

From my own point of view, I came to Kabbalah (or more specifically, Hermetic Qabalah) through ceremonial magic, and for me it fit very well with my understanding of how God operates in the universe. It also provided a blueprint for the approach I should take in mastering my emotions and intellect, coming into greater sympathy with my spirit/higher self, developing greater wisdom and becoming more directly an agent of positive creation in the world. Essentially, the blueprint that it offers fits well with many streams of mysticism, not just the Jewish, and so they adopt it. Fuzzypeg★ 03:03, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

incase my comment on the kabbalah talk page is removed by jayjg, here it is for you. Kabbalah, from gentile point of view, is satan worship, idol worship, superstition, spirit/demon/jinn worship, sexual magick, ritual magick etc. It is linked to most jews, the movement behind the Global Government, Freemasons are also involved in this. hope this helps —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.175.1.221 (talk) 04:28, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Adding citations

Hi. I wanted to let you know that I responded to your question at Misplaced Pages talk:Citation needed#How do I add a citation when I find one?. Hope this helps! —DragonHawk (talk|hist) 02:26, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Help Desk Query

Sorry, we only answer questions at the Help Desk specifically (that way others can also see the answers), but I left you a reply there. --Alinnisawest, (extermination requests here) 02:40, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

notes on creating citations

General reference

If a source supports a significant amount of the material in an article, it may sometimes be acceptable to simply add the citation at the end. It serves as a general reference, not linked to any particular part of the article. This is more likely to be appropriate for relatively undeveloped articles or those covering a very simple or narrow topic.

The Sun is pretty big, but the Moon is not so big. The Sun is also quite hot.
== References ==
*Brown, R (2006). "Size of the Moon", Scientific American, 51(78).
*Miller, E (2005). "The Sun", Academic Press.

Below is how this would look once the edit was saved:

The Sun is pretty big, but the Moon is not so big. The Sun is also quite hot.

References

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• Brown, R (2006). "Size of the Moon", Scientific American, 51(78).
• Miller, E (2005). "The Sun", Academic Press.

Furniture design

I wish I had the expertise to contribute more to these articles, but in fact I simply stumbled across the (to me) surprising lack of an article on Mission furniture so I created a redirect from that title to Mission Style, which seemed to be the closest existing article. Feel free to change "Mission furniture" into a real article-- simply delete the Redirect text and start a real article. (I hope I'm not being too obvious-- you appear to be a pretty new user, so I thought I should point out that a "redirect" can be easily changed to a regular article.)

Anyway, if you have expertise (or even just sufficient interest to do the necessary research) in this area, it looks like you've got some interesting work ahead of you. Please feel free to ask for help if you need it-- Misplaced Pages can be an immensely confusing place when you're getting started. Happy editing! -- Mwanner | Talk 21:29, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Ah, looking over your contributions, I see you do appear to have the subject expertise. A couple of suggestions-- use Show Preview more often, and fill in the Edit Summary more often-- the two ideas are related, in that the fewer times you hit Save Page, the fewer times you have to figure out what to put in the Edit Summary. And just what to put there becomes more routine over time. Basically, you want to give people some idea of what your edit was for, though a lot of edits can be simple descriptions such as "copyedit", "spelling", "grammar", etc., and a single edit (and hence, Edit Summary) can cover a number of changes. Only if you're adding real, factual material do you need to give some indication of what you're adding. Take a look at article History pages and see what others put there. So again, ask for help if you need it. Cheers! -- Mwanner | Talk 23:11, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, it can be pretty annoying to start a new article and have someone pounce on it one way or another. One way to avoid this is to create the article in a work page, a subpage of your User page: enter "User:Elmmapleoakpine/temp" (or "User:Elmmapleoakpine/Mission Furniture") in the search box, and then create the page. You can then work on the article-to-be in private, and then when you get it in good shape, copy the whole thing into the real article name. One caution, though-- don't put Categories in it while it is in your workpage-- people get cranky when articles in User space show up in Category lists. (And don't let cranky editors get you down!) Enjoy! -- Mwanner | Talk 12:24, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Elmmapleoakpine/Mission Furniture

A tag has been placed on Elmmapleoakpine/Mission Furniture requesting that it be speedily deleted from Misplaced Pages. This has been done under section A1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Misplaced Pages:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. Non-dropframe (talk) 00:01, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for your message. Crafting an article as you go isn't really the 'accepted' way of going about things here. I would suggest building the page in wp:sandbox and posting it when you're satisfied. Also, read wp:first to make sure your article meets Misplaced Pages guidelines. Thanks again, Non-dropframe (talk) 00:12, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Bob Dylan

Hi Elmmapleoakpine, I've removed the material that you added to Bob Dylan. The website you used as a reference ] claims that Dylan owes his success to a pact he made with the devil, and could not be regarded as a WP:RS. Furthermore, Dylan has revisited his Christian, evangelical material several times since the early 1980s, e.g. participating with Mavis Staples in the album Gotta Serve Somebody: The Gospel Songs of Bob Dylan in 2003. best wishes Mick gold (talk) 17:31, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

WP:NYSR inactivity check

Hello, Elmmapleoakpine. You are receiving this message because you are listed on the participant list of WP:NYSR. I am conducting an inactivity check on behalf of the project to see if the project still has an active editor base. The status column on the participant list will be cleared today, and to remain a listed member of the project, you must update your status on the participant list (preferably using the terms "Active", "Semi-active", or "Inactive") which is located here. Those who do not update their status after one week (by the night of June 25) and those who put inactive as their status will be removed from the list. If you have any questions, please leave a message on my talk page or at the "A smorgasbord of topics" section on WT:NYSR. Thank you for your understanding and your time. – TMF 12:29, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

RCC mediation regarding article name

Thanks for your comments. You are correct, it is a trivial matter but the page can not progress until the matter is resolved. Hopefully that will happen soon and we an move on. I have gained respect for the Misplaced Pages mediation process and marvelled at the patience and skillfulness of the mediator in this dispute. If nothing else is gained, I am happy to have witnessed the process! NancyHeise 03:18, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

By the way, I was just having a conversation the other day with someone who was remarking that they had never met anyone from North or South Dakota. I agreed. Living in South Florida we meet people from almost everywhere except there - now I can say I have met someone from the Dakota's! NancyHeise 03:21, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your neat comments on my talk page! I hope you are enjoying editing Misplaced Pages - it is a great way to pass the time between loads of laundry or waiting for your teenage children to come home on a Friday or Saturday night! NancyHeise 04:01, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

RfC on Nuclear Terrorism

Hi - I noticed you participated in the Nuclear Terrorism discussion; would you be willing to weigh in on this discussion? This is the second attempt at an RfC on these issues (the first was here). Thanks, csloat (talk) 19:30, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Falun Gong and organ harvesting

You nailed it. Ohconfucius (talk) 11:34, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Your removal of an entry from List of new religious movements

Please actually check the cited WP:RS/WP:V secondary sources, before removing an entry from the page List of new religious movements. Thank you, Cirt (talk) 01:55, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

You have done this again, even though there were multiple citations to WP:RS/WP:V secondary sources. Please stop. Cirt (talk) 03:28, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

August 2009

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. The recent edit you made to the page Nation of Islam has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Use the sandbox for testing; if you believe the edit was constructive, please ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing. Thank you. NW (Talk) 02:25, 26 August 2009 (UTC) My apologies; that was a mistake! NW (Talk) 02:56, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Renaming SBC resurge/takeover article

The article currently titled "Southern Baptist Convention Conservative Resurgence/Fundamentalist Takeover" will soon change its name. An early straw poll narrowed the choices to six alternatives, listed at: Talk:Southern Baptist Convention Conservative Resurgence/Fundamentalist Takeover#Straw poll 2 (once this thread is archived, see here.)

If you wish to rank the names suggested there, please do so soon. Please put other comments BELOW rather than interpersed among suggested names. Thanks. --AuthorityTam (talk) 18:30, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

List of new religious movements

Thanks very much for adding cites to List of new religious movements. Can you please use WP:CIT templates when doing so? Cirt (talk) 01:51, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Dup cites

Please do not add the exact same cite twice. Instead, name the ref, and use it again. Like so: . Cirt (talk) 01:54, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Your recent additions to List of new religious movements

Can you please use the formatting style setup for this page? Thank you. Cirt (talk) 02:28, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Additions of entries to sources that fail WP:RS

Please do not add entries to sources that fail WP:RS, as you have done at List of new religious movements. Such as Daily Mail, or some random college newspaper. Cirt (talk) 02:36, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

List of new religious movements

Let's please use only secondary WP:RS sources. Cirt (talk) 02:23, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Conference paper as source

= is this verifiable somewhere? A link online? Or was it published somewhere that is accessible somehow? Cirt (talk) 05:58, 11 November 2009 (UTC) I originally found it online. I just can't seem to find the link now. I will keep looking.Elmmapleoakpine (talk) 23:05, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

I get it

I understand exactly what you are trying to say at the talk for the List of New Religious Movements. You might find it interesting to read the thread about that exchange taking place on another site. I'm not involved in that discussion, just been reading about it. Niteshift36 (talk) 00:28, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

• That discussion forum is not affiliated with Misplaced Pages, but most of the participants are current or former editors that have become disgruntled with the politics of WP. I haven't participated there, but I do read it once in a while for laughs and sometimes they bring up some very good points. Niteshift36 (talk) 00:30, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Self religion

Hi Elm and thanks for your participation on the Self Religion article. Because there were several threads all talking about the same thing ie Notability, Sources and possible AfD I have made a combined thread at the bottom of the talk page. The third editor active on the article has indicated he feels it is a notable topic and cites several books that mention the topic. I am a bit skeptical and leary of OR and Coatrack but feel the editor(s) should have a chance to make the article notable if they can. So I'm going to wait a week or so before taking up the topic again and I just wanted to give you a heads up. Cheers!-- — Keithbob • Talk • 14:52, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

• Thank you keithbob. I will wait to see and gladly participate in the conversation. Please note I am not on Misplaced Pages everyday. Elmmapleoakpine (talk) 13:06, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Hi Elm,I just posted on the Self Religion page. Since there are two votes on either side. Maybe we should get some outside input and see what others think? Sorry I didn't respond to your invite to the List of Scientoligists. Although I disagree with the whole concept of the article, I am already involved in a number of contentious articles and I just finished participating in an Arbitration for Transcendental Meditation and its related articles and I feel at this time I don't want to add another controversial subject to my list. :-( Sorry I couldn't help there, maybe another time. -- — Keithbob • Talk • 11:30, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Notification

As you have commented in an ANI thread or RfC relating to User:Pedant17, this is to notify you that the same user's conduct is being discussed here, along with sanction proposals. Ncmvocalist (talk) 13:24, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Why is it that there always seems to be more to the story with editing situations on Misplaced Pages? I do wonder but at this point it seems like a rhetorical question. Elmmapleoakpine (talk) 00:44, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Reply

I will no longer be editing that page, List of Scientologists. Have fun with it. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 23:02, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Justin Bieber awards

Thanks for contributing to the merge discussion at Talk:List of awards and nominations received by Justin Bieber. If you have the chance, please comment on how the information should be merged to the Justin Bieber article. Regards, –Chase (talk) 21:59, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Hello

Hi, I just wanted to say that I appreciated your work for fairness and accuracy that you did at the List of Scientologists article a while back. I was thinking that you may be interested in checking out a discussion about an article that is going on at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Werner Erhard vs. Columbia Broadcasting System and Talk:Werner Erhard vs. Columbia Broadcasting System. --MLKLewis (talk) 17:27, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

It is a little hard to follow what is going on. I will have to read through it. Elmmapleoakpine (talk) 01:03, 15 November 2010 (UTC).

AFD of article you contributed to

Please see: Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of new religious movements BigJim707 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:27, 18 October 2011 (UTC).

Talkback

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Seer Stones

You did not follow the seer stone debate. Foxe was saying that unless we include the seer stone in the lead we are guilty of "pushing a blatantly religious POV." Since I have already seen a debate develop over whether the seer stone is related to treasure hunting or translating of sacred records, it is clear there is no agreement on what exactly the seer stone was used for, and it is the type of divisive thing that does not belong as a short explantion in a lead. Definantly there are reasons for not including it other than "a blatantly religious POV".John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:33, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

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