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The Bugle: Issue LXXVI, July 2012

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Thanks for the Barnstar

Thanks for the barnstar for my work on the Vladimir Lenin page; I'll gradually keep on working on it until it reacher the heights of FA status! (Midnightblueowl (talk) 16:45, 29 July 2012 (UTC))

FAGGOT

Your userbooxes, your tastes in literature, music, politics, everything indicates to me how you are a very massive fucking faggot, jack of all trades - master of none, выскочка. I hope you die of cancer. Too bad the Soviets didn't exterminate your entire family album --Diefromevileye (talk) 01:37, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 04:34, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

July 2012

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Re: Justicejayant AN/I

Thanks for telling me. I apologize on behalf of all the regulars at RFPP for disappointing you. However, when socking is the only cause for the protection request and there is any doubt that the accused IP-hopper may not be a banned user, we generally wait until the case is proved at SPI or ANI before taking action. This is because RFPP, being a low reader-volume requests page, has been abused by partisan editors to bar off groups of opponent editors in the past in the name of "socking". Deryck C. 16:57, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Tatars

Hi there, I am trying to improve the article about Tatars. At the moment it clearly contains a lot of BS which is rather disappointing. As Misplaced Pages may be the first point of contact for anyone interested in Tatars, it is crucial that the page contains purely correct and objective information. At first, I am trying to remove the "Turkic" label from the front description (added the discussion to talk page). Next, I will be aiming to rewrite the section "Tatars around the world" as it clearly contains offending statements. Unfortunately, I am very busy at work but I will try to clean up this article in my free time. It would be great to team-up with like-minded people. JackofDiamonds1 (talk) 01:00, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Youtube videos

I remember someone with some powers here (not sure the rank) told me that youtube videos were not considerable as source. That is why I did not watch the video. Now I'm not sure if that rule is old, or that person just lied to me.--Andres arg (talk) 19:05, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

AE

Could you update your comment to reflect numbering in my revised post? I've just added the numbers and some replies, but later I lose track because our numbering is different. And to be frank, I didn't want to pick a better month for diffs, I could, but I think the most recent ones are either relevant enough, or not, particularly given the demonstrated pattern (see pics). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 22:38, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Blegh. Alright then. As if making the numbers as they are wasn't enough of a pain in the backside :P ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 00:31, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I have provided some other diffs, and what I'd like to think is a more moderate solution. Also, do you think I should've ignored the personal attack in the first place? I see you have not addressed it, do you consider it not to be offensive? Am I overreacting, perhaps? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 19:48, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

I personally find it detestable when "EEVL EEML" is invoked, and think that it only serves mudslinging purposes, but I haven't observed that administrators view that as something actionable (regrettably). ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 20:46, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXVII, August 2012

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The Olive Branch: A Dispute Resolution Newsletter (Issue #1)

Welcome to the first edition of The Olive Branch. This will be a place to semi-regularly update editors active in dispute resolution (DR) about some of the most important issues, advances, and challenges in the area. You were delivered this update because you are active in DR, but if you would prefer not to receive any future mailing, just add your name to this page.

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• DR Noticeboard comparison: How the newest DR forum has progressed between May and August
• Discussion update: Checking up on the Wikiquette Assistance close debate
• Proposal: It's time to close the Geopolitical, ethnic, and religious conflicts noticeboard. Agree or disagree?

--The Olive Branch 19:14, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Golden Dawn Page

Hello, you recently reverted an edit that I performed on the Golden Dawn page, http://en.wikipedia.org/Golden_Dawn_%28Greece%29, and said that the edit was "undiscussed and disruptive."

I must disagree on both counts as:

1) The topic has been discussed at length in the talk section (http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Golden_Dawn_%28Greece%29#Racism_as_a_political_ideology.3F) and 2) The majority opinion, we have unable to reach consensus so your input on the matter is welcome, is that racism is not a political ideology and, even if it were, the sources being used do not state that Golden Dawn's political ideology is racism.

In light of this, those that are reverting the edits are actually engaging in "undiscussed and disruptive" behavior because a) they have ceased to entertain discussions on the matter and b) are unwilling to accept or concede the fact that their opinion is in the minority. Please review and join the conversation on the talk page! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.237.70.45 (talk) 08:55, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

If the "majority" is a motley collection of SPAs who just come to make emotional complaints, then they are to be ignored. This isn't a democracy. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 16:21, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Who is engaging in an emotional argument? While I may be a SPA, many are not and have put forth reasoned arguments only to have them summarily dismissed as "emotional" without having the salient points discussed. Which behavior is more disruptive, in that case? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.237.70.45 (talk) 09:18, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Syrian talkpage

Vandalism can be removed from talk pages, and sections can be deleted if per the Snowball clause. Furthermore the greater scrutiny section was an anoin ip trying to convince other users not to Trust in CNN, using Russia Today and State TV to "prove" that CNN is a conspiracy. Sopher99 (talk) 01:22, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

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Talkback

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Standard YouTube license

That was an oversight on my part. I stopped when I saw by the timestamps that it was technically a few minutes early to close the AfD but apparently just ended up leaving it closed but not deleted. Since consensus was so clear I've gone ahead and just deleted it now. Thanks for the heads up. Eluchil404 (talk) 07:23, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	Nice job catching that sock-puppets guy! That takes true skills. FutureTrillionaire (talk) 01:23, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Cats!

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Talk:Battle of Aleppo (2012)

Please see the most recent section on the talk page for what User:EkoGraf is trying to insert into the article. He is making a hard push to include a rather odd and objectionable sentence, and your opinion added to the consensus might be helpful. بروليتاريا (talk) 22:45, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

It may be odd and objectionable to you, but that is your personal opinion, which does not count on Misplaced Pages. If a proper source is presented, which in this case is the New York times, than per Misplaced Pages procedure there is no reason to exclude the information. Stick to Misplaced Pages rules, not your personal feelings please. EkoGraf (talk) 22:53, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Incorrect. As stated on the talk page, what you are trying to include is way beyond WP:SCOPE, and is not WP:EXCEPTIONAL. Also, stop misrepresenting WP:POLICY. Policy does not say any WP:FRINGE theory is allowed not matter what the source, and makes clear consensus is needed in order to add material to articles—you have none. Other than that stick to the article talk page so you don't litter this User with messages. بروليتاريا (talk) 00:32, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

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Mediation has begun

Mediation for the Russia-in-infobox dispute has begun: . -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 16:13, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

ChronicalUsual suckpuppets

Hi, Lothar.

On ANI, when gathering consensus for ChronicalUsual ban, you wrote to me that now we can "shoot on sight" if we find any user which looks like sock/meatpuppet of the Chronical. To be honest, I don´t really know how to do that so if you could tell me, or rather if you could request for someone to check out user:Dimitrish81 I would be grateful. Account which was created a month ago for sole purpose of Syrian civil wars article, holding same opinion as the master of puppets seems shady to me. Thanks. EllsworthSK (talk) 22:17, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Oops

Thanks for Afd->Rfd Nobody Ent 23:57, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

F fd ;) ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 00:11, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

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Please advice if those who undo my post arent the same person. Can you know that with a way?

My report from one source was remained in a paragraph(with the corrections in the day due to changes in the context of the source and describe in detail the areas of today conflicts. It does not even report the number of casualties alleged by SANA in numbers. SOHR that a previous editor report as summary is simply a death tool and doesn't report the ground situation thoroughly. Be advised that even if i disagree with some columns the most i am doing is to put them in the talk page and not rephrase or erase them. Talk page issue already open with my detailed position.--Dimitrish81 (talk) 16:20, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

== Holodomor ==

lawl.

ColaXtra (talk) 01:45, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Huh? ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 02:10, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Terror in Aleppo

I don't care about the dumb rules here in Misplaced Pages, but you must realize that the removal of the term "terrorist" is another crime against those innocent people who lost their lives just because they were going to their work.--Preacher lad (talk) 16:30, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Respect yourself while replying, and keep your suggestions for your brilliant head.--Preacher lad (talk) 16:55, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

October 2012 Syrian–Turkish border clash

Thank you. If you could keep an eye on the article, I would be most grateful. It's the first time I've started such an article, and don't quite know how it should look.

Also, if you see any of it covered elsewhere, please add a link or a {{main}} or a see also where needed. And if you notice that it needs adding to some navbox or other template, that would be great too. Many thanks, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:26, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXVIII, September 2012

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Battle of Damascus (2012)

Please see the Battle of Damascus (2012). the battle is clearly ongoing as numerous sources make clear (see the article and the article talk page for the sources), but User:EkoGraf is insisting the battle is over, simply because the regime claimed it was over. بروليتاريا (talk) 22:38, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Questions

I have trifle questions about your Statement on Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment. What do "remedy 7" and "remedy 8" mean? If possible, plese teach the meaning of "remedy 7" and "remedy 8".(Masanori Asami (talk) 04:55, 6 October 2012 (UTC))

Masanori Asami edited WP:SENKAKU to post a screed against me and claim that the case should be renamed to "Ryukyu Islands" because of your beliefs that the disruption he is causing is related to entirety of the old case. Why can't we be rid of him already?—Ryulong (琉竜) 05:30, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Objection for the title "Arbitration/Requests/Case/Senkaku Islands"

The case of me (User:Masanori Asami) is the dispute of Ryukyu Arc (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) and Ryukyu Islands (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), and is not the dispute of Senkaku Islands, so I demand that the title "Arbitration/Requests/Case/Senkaku Islands" should been changed to "Arbitration/Requests/Case/Ryukyu Arc and Ryukyu Islands" to remove a preconception. After the change of the title, menbers must argue again with enourgh knowledge of "Ryukyu Islands" and "Ryukyu Arc", to avoid superficial argument. (Masanori Asami (talk) 05:28, 6 October 2012 (UTC))

User:Lothar von Richthofen, I hope you will quit the arbitrator of my case, for I think the arbitrator of my case must distinguish "Ryukyu Arc" from "Senkaku Islands" and "Ryukyu Islands" from "Senkaku Islands".(Masanori Asami (talk) 05:31, 6 October 2012 (UTC))

If by any reason you cannot quit the arbitrator of my case, please check where are the Daitō Islands (大東諸島) at least, if one had included "Daitō Islands (大東諸島)" in "Ryukyu Arc", then the distribution of islands of the "Ryukyu Arc" would have not been arc shaped.(Masanori Asami (talk) 05:31, 6 October 2012 (UTC))

You must think if the editing of Ryukyu Arc (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) andRyukyu Islands (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) by User:Masanori Asami had been perfectly correct and the editing by User:Ryulong(琉竜) had been perfectly incorrect, then however bold the editing of User:Masanori Asami maybe, there would have been no prpblem.(Masanori Asami (Masanori Asami (talk) 05:31, 6 October 2012 (UTC))

(Please see Misplaced Pages:Be bold.)(Masanori Asami (talk) 05:31, 6 October 2012 (UTC))

And in fact, Ryukyu Arc (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is not a content fork of Ryukyu Islands. "Ryukyu Arc" is the technical term of fields of Earth science, Ecology and Archaeology. If you have any knowledge of "Ryukyu Arc", please search the word "Ryukyu Arc" at Google, then you will find most of Google search ranking top 20 of "Ryukyu Arc" are the articles in the field of Plate tectonics or Volcanology of Earth Science, and more than half of which are written by Japanese scientists, for not only "Ryukyu Arc" is in Japan but also Japan is the leading nation of the study of Plate tectonics and Volcanology (for there are 3 or 4 tectonic plates in Japan, while there are 2 or 3 in US, and there are many volcanos in Japan. ), and English is the international language of science.(Masanori Asami (talk) 05:31, 6 October 2012 (UTC))

Ryulong(琉竜) changed ja:Ryukyu Arc of Japanese "Misplaced Pages" too. However, Ryulong(琉竜) has poor ability of Japanese.(Masanori Asami (Masanori Asami (talk) 05:31, 6 October 2012 (UTC))

Ryulong(琉竜) must be ignorant and arrogant, or a plotter to edit the articles of wikipedia unlike the truth under an evil purpose. Ryulong(琉竜) is not qualified to edit "wikipedia" anyhow.(Masanori Asami (Masanori Asami (talk) 05:31, 6 October 2012 (UTC))