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86.134.83.214 (talk · contribs)

stream of personal abuse on talk:Quizzing.co.uk . I added a note on the user's talk page - responded with a stream of abuse at me. (I have absolutely nothing to do with the issue!) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ian Dalziel (talk • contribs) .

• A quick look didn't turn up any personal attacks.. can you provide diffs? --Ryan Delaney 07:01, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

  Several sections have already been removed by Sam Blanning - e.g.

  There's a new crop on there now from User:172.203.64.89 , a possible sockpuppet - including legal threats this time. -- Ian Dalziel 15:09, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

this diff definately shows 86.134.83.214 to be making personal attacks. Paul Cyr 05:51, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Trollwatcher (talk · contribs) and 64.105.124.26 (talk · contribs)

(a banned user) is posting personal attacks about an admin on his user talk page. He is currently not logged in and is using the IP given. I have warned him (not using the templates as I didn't know where to find them until I found this page) but he is annoyed by my reverts so could an admin leave a post to confirm this is ok. Thanks Sophia 19:00, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

User has restored the material AGAIN! Help! Sophia 23:05, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

==C-c-c-c (talk · contribs)== this user has been harrassing me, and offending me personally in my talk page. Among many offenses are " P.S. I heard heroin is dirt cheap over there, can you get me some, from one Balkan brother to another?:P C-c-c-c 21:34, 13 May 2006 (UTC)" , "(Albanian Fascist Power)", reminding me that he can do this all the time by saying "I have all day....C-c-c-c 19:55, 13 May 2006 (UTC)", calls me "(Funny Ilir) .C-c-c-c 18:37, 13 May 2006 (UTC)". ~I kindly wrote back to not send me personal attacks, and flood me with accusations, but he did not stop. Instead he said he did not give a sh** I would appreciate if someone bans this user, as he/she is disturbing me a lot. Thank you. Ilir pz 21:57, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Gnetwerker (talk · contribs)

Although not a severe personal attack, Wikitionary defines a personal attack as any comment about the commenter inorder to discredit them. Although Gnetwerker has only made two personal attacks, he has been persistant in reverting any removal of them. This situation is complex as the personal attacks arose from another dispute about two articles. I have repeatedly asked and warned the user to no avail. Although I do not expect a ban on the user, I am hoping an official notice from an admin might deter them from continuing. I also ask an admin remove the personal attacks as it would appear that I would simply be continuing an edit war. The concerning statements are as follows: "you will not like the result of the exposure of your tightly-controlled Microsoft fan pages" which blatantly implies that I am a Microsoft zealot out to protect Microsoft related pages and make them pro-Microsoft. "three editors who take a consistent pro-Microsoft positions and edit primarily Microsoft "fan" articles" which is the exact definition of a personal attack as he is saying that our comments are not as valid because he feels that we are Microsoft zealots. As I said, these are not severe personal attacks but fit the definition perfectly. Although they do not blatantly offend, they create disruption and violate Misplaced Pages policies. I ask that the comments be removed and the user warned. Paul Cyr 03:41, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

• EDIT: It appears this is not the first time Gnetwerker has been accused of a personal attack: and Paul Cyr 20:36, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

I did not intend any comment to be a personal attack, and do not believe that any comment was a personal attack. One admin, User:Tony Sidaway, appears to agree that the comments related above were not attacks. I do believe that Paul Cyr is responding emotionally in the course of a heated discussion, and is inclined to read attacks where none were intended. In my opinion, there is a decided lack of good faith operating here, a misuse of Misplaced Pages process bordering on harrassment, and not a little bit of wikilawyering. Notwithstanding all of this, if any independent editor, upon review of the facts, believes that I have made an attack, I will without hesitation remove the attack and apologize. I would ask that Paul Cyr agree to the same. -- Gnetwerker 06:15, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

• UPDATE: Gnetwerker has once again made a personal attack here. I have elevated the warning on his talk page to {{npa3}}. Paul Cyr 02:08, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

I am sorry, but the things you are complaining about (like this), are not even remotely personal attacks. Please reconsider your hair-trigger on WP:NPA, and get some third-party advice before making any more accusations. -- Gnetwerker 06:03, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

That's interesting that you say it's not even remotely a personal attack, yet it is almost identical to the example WP:NPA makes: "Jane is a bad editor". You don't see any similarity to "Jane is a bad editor" and "these editors are opposed to credible third party sources" (paraphrased)? Paul Cyr 18:36, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

• Plea to Administrators: OK, ban me, pillory me, do whatever you want, but I am tired of dealing with this user and his accusations. If I have erred, please say so, and if not, please say that. My time spent on Misplaced Pages is too short to deal with high-school students who think they have been wronged by what I think is a standard give-and-take. If even a single admin says I have violated WP:NPA in this matter, I will go away, no questions asked. but please resolve! -- Gnetwerker 06:19, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

"high-school students", not a personal attack, but why the prejudice remark? Not the most effective way to support an arguement is it? Paul Cyr 18:36, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

• Comment I do not see evidence of personal attacks. I suggest the accuser read up on the policy and try to find the difference between a personal attack and a content dispute. Specifically, Paul Cyr (talk · contribs) should read up on what is a personal attack and what is not a personal attack. -- Malber (talk • contribs) 14:04, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

• Comment. I find it suspicious that you have come out of no where, not provided any detailed explaination of how those were not personal attacks and the fact that you have been accused of making personal attacks yourself. Not that accusations are convicting evidence, but I would ask that you better justify your claims and I recommend admins taking this user's comments with a grain of salt. Paul Cyr 18:36, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

• What personal attack?--Asterion 15:13, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

• Scroll up. Paul Cyr 22:27, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Pansophia (talk · contribs)

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Kaiser_Permanente&curid=477362&diff=53254033&oldid=53253341 etcetera. 3 warnings. Set a bad example I think. Midgley 03:26, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

The problem is actually Midgley. See this complaint. Also see my talk page - someone already looked into this. --Pansophia 03:49, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Travb (talk · contribs)

, , . I've made good faith attempts at a truce but he can't move beyond personal attacks. — Phil Welch (t) (c) 12:53, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

In all my edits, I called Philwelch a "rude person". That was the extent of my personal attacks:

• This all started when User:Philwelch ignored the {{inuse}} tag, when I put a message on his board, calling him a "rude person"
• User:Philwelch blamed me for his incivility in editing a section which clearly had an {{inuse}} tag,
• User:Philwelch called me a tempermental child.
• User:Philwelch reverted my edits four times, http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=NSA_call_database&oldid=53304639]
• He ded four reverts despite the {{inuse}} tag and after I asked him to stop after the first one, and
• User:Philwelch clearly misrepresented the facts by stating in his first revert that there had been no edits in an hour, when the last edit was one minute before.

Ever been editing with the {{inuse}} tag and then have someone come along and edit something despite the {{inuse}} tag? How does that make you feel?

Signed: Travb 12:47, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Philwelch (talk · contribs)

• User:Philwelch called me a tempermental child.

Signed: Travb 13:11, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

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