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Move from Battle of Shigisan

I moved this page just now. The Japanese name of the event is Teibi no Ran or Teibi no Hen. Of the four sources cited in the article, only one (Sophia) seems to use "Battle of Shigisan", but it seems to use the name dismissively as it calls it the "so-called Battle of Shigisan". Sansom calls it "a decisive battle at Shigisen", which is hardly justification for this article's previous name. GBooks brought up almost no hits for the old title, and one of the ones that came up is Sophia. The only apparently scholarly/specialist/encyclopedic source (works on Shinto are not necessarily reliable for Japanese political/military history) that came up is the Japan Encyclopedia, but that book has its problems too, with numerous misprints and odd translations from the French. Additionally, the first sentence of this article rather ridiculously has "the Battle of Shigisan (信貴山)" as though the parenthesized word was the Japanese name for the battle.

(I know it links to Mount Shigi as well -- an oddly erroneous use of the Nihongo template -- but that's even weirder.)

elvenscout742 (talk) 06:43, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

and came up for "Battle at Mount Shigi" and "Battle of Mount Shigi" respectively. But neither is enough to overrule the way people actually translate Teibi no Ran and Teibi no Hen. elvenscout742 (talk) 06:48, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
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