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February 14

User talk:Anna Frodesiak#One Billion Rising Logo

Could someone please help this user at my talk? Many thanks, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:12, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

edit an article

want to edit an article (Covario), minor edit, tried but don't know how, the edit page is confusing. want to add brief statement and ref to support is already in article. can you help me? This is the addition: Covario won the OMMA search agency of the year award in 2011 and again in 2012 <ref>Sullivan, Laurie. “Agency of the Year: Bronze, Search – Covario”. mediapost.com.</ref>

happyeditor 02:29, 14 February 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by C. A. Bruemmer (talk • contribs)

 Done--Canoe1967 (talk) 02:37, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Header

I want to be able to use this site to define and spell words. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Easylivinted (talk • contribs) 02:43, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Do you mean http://en.wiktionary.org/Wiktionary:Main_Page ?--Canoe1967 (talk) 02:49, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Wikidata

Did I miss an announcement? I noticed that someone had removed WP:interwiki links from an article, and after a bit of research I found that Wikidata had gone live and that language links are now to be provided through that route. I am not sure whether the Wikidata database has been fully populated with data consistent with the current content of en-w, nor am I sure how any further changes to iw links on en-w would find their way into Wikidata before iw links are removed from en-w, nor whether checks are being done on the consistency of the data before the en-w iw links are removed. I assume that I'm not the only en-w editor who is not fully informed, so I would be grateful if anyone involved with the Wikidata project could give us a clue. - David Biddulph (talk) 03:05, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

It would be best to check the item on Wikidata to make sure all the links are on Wikidata before removing. We have a lot of items there, but not all of them. --Rschen7754 03:09, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

See Misplaced Pages:Village pump (miscellaneous)#Wikidata deployment phase 1, Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2013-02-04/Technology report and Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2013-02-11/Technology report.--ukexpat (talk) 03:10, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Wiki Page for IDFC Project Equity

Hi ,

I would like to communicate & request that the wiki page for IDFC Project Equity (link : IDFC Project Equity) should be removed , since the company has merged into IDFC Alternatives and is now called Infrastructure , which is an asset class of IDFC Alternatives .

Hence the page is not relevant .

You can check the same on www.idfc.com

Regards

Parminder — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.130.40.2 (talk) 05:57, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Notability is not temporary - We have millions of articles about subjects that no longer exist, so the merger of the company is by itself not a sufficient reason to merge, move or delete the article. Roger (talk) 07:09, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

want to get study material

i want to get some study material on english grammer but i dont get this from wiki. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.79.36.71 (talk) 06:38, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

You need to be more specific. What grammar are you looking for? We do have pages on specific grammar topics here, but if that doesn't help, I'd suggest you try dedicated websites like englishpage.com, onestopenglish.com etc. Valenciano (talk) 06:49, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Wikiversity is the Wikimedia project that handles educational material - it has free learning material and courses on a wide variety of subjects. Roger (talk) 07:20, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

writing biography of a dead person

I want write a biography of a dead person. Please advise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sandeepawasthi13 (talk • contribs) 06:51, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Hello Sandeepawasthi13 - your first stop should be Misplaced Pages:Your first article.Moxy (talk) 08:53, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Dead person.--Canoe1967 (talk) 09:00, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

...Not a person ツ Jenova20 11:35, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

WP:BDP - Purplewowies (talk) 20:58, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Category generated by template

When I preview a page with User:Toshio Yamaguchi/Template:File page NFCC concerns tag I can see that the page is placed in Category:Non-free files lacking a rationale as of February 2013, which is as intended. However, the template also should place the file in a category for all non-free files which lack a rationale (I specified the ambox parameter | all = Non-free files lacking a rationale). This doesn't work however. Why and how can I fix it? -- Toshio Yamaguchi 09:20, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

See Template:Ambox for the documentation of the ambox template, where the all parameter is included in the common parameters, if it helps. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 11:46, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

See also this revision of my sandbox, where the monthly category is present, but not the category for all files. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 15:36, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Frustration

I have been trying without success to edit material on the page on me Quintin Jardine. I am doing to because that page has been copied by Facebook and used to create a community page on me without my knowledge or permission, but also because some material on the Misplaced Pages entry constitutes a breach of privacy to me. Furthermore I note that the cited references on my Misplaced Pages page include my own website. I must point out that all material on that site is the copyright of Portador Ltd, my company and may not be used without its permission. I'm a big fan of Misplaced Pages, and a financial supporter, but my loyalty will be at an end if my most recent edit is not reinstated and the image attached removed.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Qjardine (talk • contribs) 10:57, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi Quintin. I've taken a close look at the page in question, but haven't made any alterations to it. May I ask which parts you object to? As far as I can see (having made comparisons with several pages on your website) there is no reproduction of copyrighted text, and indeed, the website itself appears to verify most if not all of the biographical information. If you could give precise details of which parts of the article you object to, and why (either here or on my talkpage), I can see about having them removed, but at first glance, I don't immediately see anything that would cause a breach of privacy or a copyright violation. The image in the article is one that you yourself released under the GNU Free Document Licence, and therefore is free for anyone, including Misplaced Pages, to amend or use as they see fit. Yunshui 雲‍水 11:14, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Shouldn't the page be either Matthew Quintin Jardine or Matthew Jardine? Or is Quintin Jardine the name you authors your books under? Thanks ツ Jenova20 11:33, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Nope, Quintin Jardine is correct, per WP:COMMONNAME. Yunshui 雲‍水 11:35, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

I stand corrected. Bravo ツ Jenova20 11:36, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

• His objections are shown in this edit. Per WP:BLP, "Contentious material about living persons (or recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced – whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable – should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion." Qjardine removed unsourced information. The page then was subject to possible vandalism. I've removed what Qjardine removed and posted a request at WP:BLPN for further trimming of the page/to watch the page. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 12:07, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

hellp i cant find hindu childhood in the surch

help — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.229.43.152 (talk) 15:46, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Please clarify, your question is unclear.--ukexpat (talk) 18:40, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

There are some Hindu children shown in the images at the article, "Hindu". I hope that helps. -Thibbs (talk) 15:15, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

How to add a picture

How do you add a picture to a Misplaced Pages page: There is a page: First Presbyterian Church (Sallisaw, Oklahoma). I wanted to add some historical information and a picture. I am an Elder and member of the church. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ferduchi66 (talk • contribs) 16:01, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

If you are in a position to release an image under a compatible license to Misplaced Pages/Wikimedia then you just need an WP:autoconfirmed account before you can upload it. If the image is already here then copy and paste this: ] and fill in the file name where you see "example" and also a caption. Good luck! ツ Jenova20 17:19, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Standard image advice follows:

• If you want to upload an image from your computer for use in an article, you must determine the proper license of the image (or whether it is in the public domain). If you know the image is public domain or copyrighted but under a suitable free-license, upload it to the Wikimedia Commons instead of here, so that all projects have access to the image (sign up). If you are unsure of the licensing status, see the file upload wizard for more information. Please also read Misplaced Pages's image use policy.
• If you want to add an image that has already been uploaded to Misplaced Pages or Wikimedia Commons, add ] to the area of the article where you want the image to appear – replacing File name.jpg with the actual file name of the image, and Caption text with a short description of the image. See our picture tutorial for more information. I hope this helps.--ukexpat (talk) 18:38, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Priestman Brothers Hull yorkshire

I worked for Priestman Brothers Ltd. Hull for 30 years and hold the massive archive, providing wholly accurate cotent, from the founder's diaries, and many more sources. The Misplaced Pages article is indeed welcome but has many inaccuracies. I am unfamialar with the editing process but would gladly given you and amount of information you require, if someone can let me know how! Bill Bromwich, Hull, E.Yorkshire — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.100.228.95 (talk) 16:07, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer. What other kinds of material are in your archive? If it is news clippings etc that constitute reliable sources then they would be very useful. The founder's diaries not so much because they are primary sources. We need a little more detail. Thanks.--ukexpat (talk) 18:37, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your offer. Misplaced Pages may only used reference material that has previously been published. However one of the Wikimedia Foundation's related projects, Wikisource - The free library would most probably be interested. Roger (talk) 09:31, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Raja Tahir Masood

i have submitted a draft on the above person. could you please let me know if it meets your requirements? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stevenrich3 (talk • contribs) 17:09, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

The draft has not yet been submitted for review. Please click the "click here" link in the line of the grey box that reads:

If this submission is ready to be reviewed, click here and press Save page.--ukexpat (talk) 18:35, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Denys Val Baker - name changed by deed poll

Hi. The personal info box at this entry shows "Born - Denys Val BAKER" He was in fact born Denys Baker, and later changed his name to Denys VAL BAKER by deed poll. I don't know how to correctly display this info in the personal data box. Thanks. -- ALGRIF talk 17:59, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

 Fixed in this edit. The article needs more sources and the tone is a little "fluffy", so please feel free to work on it.--ukexpat (talk) 18:32, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Change image

Hello,

We would like to update the logo on Columbia College (Missouri) to our new logo. How do I go about doing this?

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Armybrat485 (talk • contribs) 18:28, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

See the answer to "how to add a picture" a few questions above. RudolfRed (talk) 19:40, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

fixing piped link of redirect?

Let's say that Aeiou is an article and Bfjpv is a redirect to Aeiou. If I find an article that has ] in it, should that be edited to simply ]. Both links will end up at the article Aeiou and the second is shorter.Naraht (talk) 19:01, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

It's often better to link to the redirect, except in navigation boxes. See WP:NOPIPE and WP:R#NOTBROKEN. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:11, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Like most things, the answer is "sometimes". In general, if one is just a synonym/capitalization/re-punctuation of the other, I edit the link as long as I'm doing something else to the article. If Bfjpv is a sub-subject within the Aeiou article, and it might some day have its own article, I leave the link as it is. An example might be if Bfjpv is the founder of company Aeiou, but has also recently been elected to public office, making him notable aside from his company. BTW, the same applies to redlinks. In the example just given, if Bfjpv doesn't exist at all, it should be left alone, as it's likely to be created in the future. —— 01:41, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Category

Ludwig Stumpfegger gave Magda Goebbels the cyanide to kill her children. Is it OK if I add category German murderers of children to his article? Kotjap (talk) 19:06, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

That sounds inappropriate if he wasn't in charge and didn't give it directly to the children. And his article only says "some sources report that he helped Magda Goebbels kill her children". PrimeHunter (talk) 19:19, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Ross Montgomery

Ross Montgomery (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Hi Ross Montgomery here you say on my page that I have 2 daughters which is correct but I also have a 20 year old son please update many thanks

Ross Montgomery — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.13.181.224 (talk) 19:46, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Looks like you fixed it yourself.--ukexpat (talk) 21:31, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Tagging information as "cite needed" instead of providing a citation

In a discussion with a relatively new account at RSN (Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Kition) the question of when to use a "citation needed" tag has come up. The other user has several times added a cite needed tag to their own edits when editing an article instead of an actual citation. See . I have asked them to stop and find adequate citations before adding information and explained that I didn't think the purpose of such a tag was to ask someone else to cite your additions for you. They think I am misinterpreting the purpose of the tag. I tried looking through some of the archives of the talkpages for wp:cite and wp:citation needed and the archives of this page, but nothing specifically popped out at me, although this has to have come up before. Any insight would be appreciated, thanks. Heiro 21:11, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

I think your approach is the correct one. The onus is on the person adding material to ensure that it is adequately referenced - if they don't have references for it, it shouldn't be added (especially if it's a BLP, though that's not the case here). I always understood that the {{cn}} etc tags were to alert readers to possibly unreliable content and to alert those who may be so inclined, to look for references, not as a cop-out for the user adding the possible disputed material.--ukexpat (talk) 21:25, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, in my 4 or 5 years, that has always been my understanding as well, but couldn't find it actually stated anywhere (although my search was far from exhaustive). Heiro 21:27, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

See WP:BURDEN "The burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material". There's also guidance at Template:Citation needed, but it doesn't specifically address your question. RudolfRed (talk) 21:33, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

PIZZA NOVA - Incorrect Information

The information featured on the Misplaced Pages profile for Pizza Nova is incorrect. We have over 127 locations in Ontario, Canada. We have ZERO locations in the United Stated and ZERO locations in Cuba.

Posted by the Vice President of Pizza Nova Sangelone (talk) 21:54, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

 Fixed - by another.Moxy (talk) 00:37, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

how do I use my main user page?

how do I use my main user page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Will Ogilvie (talk • contribs) 21:58, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

It's a tool for collegiality, to tell us who Will Ogilvie is: his skills, his strengths, his interests, his enthusiasms, his dislikes, his prejudices and antipathies, his heartfelt belief system which inevitably informs his content. You are welcome to use any of our hundreds of userboxes, for example, which proclaim the user's stance on various matters, from the serial comma to the American Civil War to the color orange. All of this gives your fellow editors an idea of who this person Will (whom we may never meet in meatspace) really is. --Orange Mike | Talk 22:07, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

See Misplaced Pages:User pages,Moxy (talk) 00:06, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Artist rendering of William Tennent

From Wendy Wirsch President of the William Tennent House Association in regards to the painting of what is believed to be William Tennent and is on Misplaced Pages site which is the above banner. Wendy is the Historian for the Neshaminy Warwick Church.

Pete

Are you referring to the painting of a man with white hair and a ruffle on his shirt? If so, that is not William Tennent. The reason I know this is because I know the woman who owns the painting. She is Anne Tennent Cecil. She lives in Spartanburg, SC. Anne had the painting examined by art experts. The portrait is that of a man who married into the Tennent family. We also know that the gentleman isn’t William Tennent because of the clothes he is wearing. Men in the 1730’s and ‘40’s didn’t wear shirts with ruffles on them. That image needs to be removed.

Blessings, Wendy

There is a silhouette of William Tennent that we use along with the Latin phrase "He builded better than he knew" (there is NO Latin for built)

Hope this helps and rectifies this mistake. Peter W. Brunner — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.114.236.80 (talk) 22:48, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

I think the above contains postings by two different people - effectively a conversation - and I have added formatting to make this clearer. Apologies if I've misunderstood. --ColinFine (talk) 23:12, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

February 15

Alexander Henry the Elder

Hello, I am a descendant of Alexander Henry the Elder's family and Matthew Henry a Reverend has been sourced in several academic publications as being related to Alexander Henry the Elder. I am attempting to trace the Henry family England connections thru Matthew. I just want to know if you know anything more than they were related, How are they related, cousins, or granduncle etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.92.49.236 (talk) 01:39, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Everything "we" (fellow readers and contributors to Misplaced Pages just like you) know is in the article. You might be able to get further relevant information from the sources cited in the article listed in the References section as well as the list under External links. Roger (talk) 09:44, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

need to left justify caption text in a gallery

Please help me left justify all the caption text in this gallery:

TCO (talk) 02:24, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Not sure that's possible. {{POTD condensed}} is coded to center align the captions.--ukexpat (talk) 02:59, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Two of my questions weren't answered at the reference desk

I'm sorry to bring this up here but Two of my questions weren't answered at the reference desk. Is this appropriate place to bring this up? Venustar84 (talk) 03:29, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Only if it's about Misplaced Pages. This page is only for questions about how to use or edit Misplaced Pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:34, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

if there is place on wikipedia where I can ask my questions to be answered properly? Venustar84 (talk) 04:19, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

If there is place on wikipedia where I can ask my questions to be answered properly efficiency and right away? Venustar84 (talk) 04:20, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

No. We're all volunteers here, so you take your chances. If you expect immediate answers to your questions, you need to go to a site where you pay the responders. I count 27 questions you've asked on the Ref Desk, so if 25/27 were answered to your satisfaction, that's a darn good result. StuRat (talk) 04:21, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

• What two questions? Venustar84 is an admitted sockpuppet. μηδείς (talk) 04:28, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Don;t worry about Medis. I'll ask the questions about on the reference desk. It's not important. Venustar84 (talk) 04:33, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

How does one withdraw or request a tainted RfC be closed early?

I posted a neutrally worded RfC and a hostile editor added a comment to a separate discussion to which I had been party saying that the discussion from that thread was continued at the RfC I filed, even though the matter was not discussed there. Four of the subsequent five opposes then mentioned the prior discussion the op linked to but which was not a subject of or mentioned at the RfC. How do I close the tainted RfC? Thanks. μηδείς (talk) 03:58, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

You can use my name in public. It's OK. --Jayron32 05:31, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

• Instructions on closing RfCs can be found at Misplaced Pages:RFC#Ending RfCs. If this is an RfC/U then you'll have to follow this instead. The issue of taint (forum shopping, meatpuppetry, or whatever your concern is) is probably best resolved by simply mentioning this concern in the RfC itself and then definitely seeking outside closure at WP:AN/RFC. The closing admin will certainly take that into consideration. -Thibbs (talk) 14:53, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Requesting an article?

So there's a page that says a person can suggest something be added to Misplaced Pages but the only link I can see is to create an article so I'll suggest it here.

I think an article needs to be made about Dr. Carin Bondar who is a biologist in Canada that does incredible learning videos and articles. Some of her stuff can be found at www.carinbondar.com/

Thanks and I absolutely LOVE Misplaced Pages.

Sincerely, Trevor Hinesley — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.52.70.75 (talk) 04:57, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Please take a look at WP:Requested articles.--ukexpat (talk) 05:23, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

rounding in inflation template

Can you make the rounding go to 26 billion (not 25.8) for the inflation converter in second para here:

TCO (talk) 04:07, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Done. You need to set r=1 for one decimal place of rounding. See {{inflation}} Tips & Tricks section. RudolfRed (talk) 07:08, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Nope, sorry, please check the output.TCO (talk) 07:11, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

It's r=-9 to force the last nine dollar digits to zero. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:09, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Guinness nit

AFI's 100 Years...100 Movie Quotes

No. 8 is incorrect - the actor is Sir Alec Guinness.

Also, the tabulation is incorrect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.92.32.129 (talk) 06:55, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

The list in the article is from the AFI list, and AFI attributes the quote to Han Solo so that's what stays in the article. You can see the discussion on the article's talk page. May the Force be with you says the line is spoken by several film characters, so I guess AFI chose the Han Solo version. RudolfRed (talk) 07:03, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Edits do not trigger default edit summary

Why do my edits such as this one not leave an edit summary saying new section such as is the case for example here? -- Toshio Yamaguchi 08:17, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

You can create the section part of the edit summary on your own by entering "/* Section name */ this is what I did in the section". This is automatically filled in for you if you edit using a section link. If you create a new section at the end of the page using the "+section" link, you automatically get the edit summary "/* Section name */ new section". If you create a new section by editing the page an manually entering "== Section name ==", then this obviously doesn't work. You could be doing other things in addition, e.g. adding several new sections. The software doesn't inspect your changes to check if you just added a new section. Hans Adler 09:01, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

When you start a new section in a talk page you will not be able to leave a custom edit summary but it will be automatically added. --Ushau97 09:07, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

When I click the new section link at the top of Talk:List of wars 1945–1989, nothing is filled in automatically as this edit of mine shows. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 09:12, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

If you click New section and write something in the "Subject/headline" field then you get "/* something */ New section" as automatic edit summary. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:47, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Following PrimeHunter's suggestion, I clicked on New section, added "foo" to the "Subject/headline" field, selected "show preview" button, and saw "Subject/headline preview: (→‎foo: new section)." -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 13:54, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Yes, that's how "/* foo */ new section" renders in an edit summary. This can be checked by entering it as a manual edit summary when not using the New section link. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:14, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

I am confused. When I click the New section link, I get no field for an edit summary at all and in the page history it doesn't say new section. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 15:00, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

When you click New section, the "Subject/headline" field should be above the edit box. There is no edit summary field. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:06, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

The section created in this edit is created by substituting {{User:Toshio Yamaguchi/Template:Original uploader NFCC concerns message}}. Does that mean I cannot provide an edit summary for these edits when using the New section link at the top of a talk page? Note that I do not give that section a heading, as the heading is automatically supplied by the substituted template. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 16:19, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

A heading made inside the edit box by typing or substituting is not transferred to the edit summary. But there should be a field with heading "Subject/headline" above the edit box when you click "New section". See for example File:Sandbox edit new section.PNG. Are you saying you don't have that field? Which skin are you using? PrimeHunter (talk) 16:43, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

I am using the vector skin and I have the header field in edit mode. My concern is with the edit summary, as edits such as this one have a blank edit summary. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 16:55, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

If you want a default summary, you'll need to remove the heading from your template and enter it manually into the section header. Alternatively, you can use the normal edit window or the section above and leave an edit summary. Finally, I think there's an option in your preferences which will autofill the edit summary with what you posted if you don't have one. (I'm not totally sure on that one, talk to Kiefer.Wolfowitz, I know he uses it. Ryan Vesey 17:02, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Well, I guess I prefer to have no edit summary then, because I don't want to provide the header separately. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 17:14, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Wrong name

The Vodafone Germany Company was renamed on Feb 1st. It is now Vodafone GmbH, the "D2" in the name was deleted. Effected site:

Vodafone Germany — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.233.250.6 (talk) 10:38, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

I have changed the article's text to refer to "Vodafone GmbH", but Vodafone Germany is a perfectly acceptable title for the article as a WP:Common name.--ukexpat (talk) 14:29, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

History of perpetual motion machines

My name is Sanjay Amin and Misplaced Pages has incorrect information on the following page:

History of perpetual motion machines

The following is the incorrect information:

1. The company I founded Entropy Systems Inc., has not received $3.5 million in investment.

2. I am still working on this technology.

3. I have not made a claim that my technology violates the second law of thermodynamics. Please note that the United States Patent Office does not issue any patents on inventions that are perpetual motion machines. I was already issued a United States Patent for this technology. My US Patent No: 5,765.387

4. I have not made a claim of creating a perpetual motion machine.

5. There is no article or any paper in any reputable scientific journal that has disproved the facts of my invention or technology.

The websites that are used as reference have incorrect information.

Incorrect information about me is slanderous and injurious to me. Please cease and desist publishing incorrect information about me on Misplaced Pages.

Sincerely, Sanjay Amin — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amincycle (talk • contribs) 13:54, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

The paragraph about Sanjay Amin and his company was unreferenced, so I've removed it. AndrewWTaylor (talk) 14:16, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

That very editor had removed the multiple cites that had been in that paragraph. At least some of them were independent analysis/commentary on the device and/or his company. DMacks (talk) 14:47, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Ah, sorry, I didn't check the history. AndrewWTaylor (talk) 23:06, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

font size is too small to read

The font size is too small to read, is there a way in which I can make it larger so it is easy to read? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.60.35.95 (talk) 14:28, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Try resetting your browser's zoom level: Ctrl+0 or adjust it with Ctrl++ and Ctrl+-.--ukexpat (talk) 14:32, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Aligning a userbox

Why does the last userbox here appear at the right despite being wrapped into {{Align}}? How can I make it appear beneath the first userbox in the first row? -- Toshio Yamaguchi 14:49, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

There are a number of ways to handle this. For example, you could add "{{clear}}" immediately after "{{Template:User web archive}}". -Thibbs (talk) 14:56, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 15:02, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

No problem. -Thibbs (talk) 15:05, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

User talk page issues

My computer has developed a strange issue with user talk pages. It starts to load the page and then it looks like it restarts and hangs with the progress bar at ~30%. If I refresh the page in the middle of this hangup, it does the same thing. If I try over an over (maybe 15-20 times in a row) then it seems to break its pattern and it works, but if I refresh the page again, it's back to the annoying hangup again for another 15-20 tries. I haven't been able to find any info on this weird problem online, and I know there are things I could try like reinstalling my browser, but I'm just curious about what is going on here. So I'm looking for help from people with a technical understanding of the page code for Misplaced Pages. What makes user talk pages any different from all other pages on Misplaced Pages? Is this some kind of javascripting error? -Thibbs (talk) 15:05, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

It may be a caching issue. Have you tried a WP:BYPASS?--ukexpat (talk) 15:07, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

I hadn't tried that before, but I've just gone through all the steps and it still seems to be causing the same problem. I'd imagine that would affect my ability to load up other pages too, though. This problem is definitely restricted to user talk pages and only at Misplaced Pages. There must be something specific to this kind of page that my computer doesn't like. -Thibbs (talk) 15:22, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

OK next step - do you have any gadgets or scripts installed that work only in user talk space? If you do, you should try disabling them one by one to see if any of them, or a combination of them, is the culprit.--ukexpat (talk) 15:48, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Or start by logging out and see if it works then. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:03, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

I didn't knowingly get any gadgets/scripts that are specific to user talk pages, but I do have greasemonkey and I pick up gadgets occasionally when I need them. I haven't ever gotten anything specific for Misplaced Pages, though, as far as I know. Interestingly it does seem to be connected to me being logged in, though. If I'm logged out a hungup user talk page can be refreshed and it works fine. -Thibbs (talk) 16:20, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Well I am all out of ideas. Maybe the regulars at WP:VPT can help.--ukexpat (talk) 16:24, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

OK it's not terribly pressing since I've just bought a new computer a few weeks ago anyway and it's no problem there, but thanks for your help though! -Thibbs (talk) 16:32, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

What is your skin? Does it happen at other MediaWiki sites, for example, meta:? PrimeHunter (talk) 16:37, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

I've never changed skins so my skin is whatever the default is. And it seems not to be a problem at meta. I randomly tested the German Misplaced Pages too and no problems there. So it seems to be restricted to en.wikipedia. -Thibbs (talk) 17:13, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

The skin is shown at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering. The default is Vector. What is your browser? Can you test what happens if you disable Javascript in the browser? Special:PrefixIndex/User:Thibbs/ shows no personal css or js files, except an empty monobook.js. Maybe you have a problematic gadget at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:12, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

My skin is Vector, and the gadgets I have turned on are:

1. "Ask a question" feature

2. Reference Tooltips

3. Hotcat

4. Form for filing disputes at the dispute resolution noticeboard

5. CharInsert

6. Add a "Sandbox" link to the personal toolbar area.

As with the skin, this is just the default gadgets that presumably are ticked for anyone who doesn't go into the gadget area. I'm using Firefox 3.6.28 (can't get the most current version since this is the last one compatible with Mac OSX 10.4.11). Interestingly I find that turning Javascripting off does fix the problem. So that may be the best workaround for me for now.

Another quirk I just realized is that this problem has really only come up for me when I'm trying to place a warning tag on a vandal's talk page. As I think about it, it's not just any user talk page that I have trouble with, it's particularly user talk pages of IP editors. If they have no talk page (i.e. it's redlinked) then I can create one with no problem, but if they have a bluelinked talk page then it seems to hang. -Thibbs (talk) 00:23, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Yes, those are the default gadgets. I don't have problems with them with Vector and Firefox 18.0.2 on Windows Vista. They use Javascript. You could try disabling them. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:48, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

I just tried disabling them each one at a time to see if I could identify a single one that was causing the problem, but no luck. Then I tried disabling them all in a single test and that still didn't work. I assume it's just because I'm using an outdated version of Firefox on this machine and that's causing the javascript to break. And actually with all of these various tests I've been running the problem seems to be marginally better. It only seems to be hanging around 50% of the time now. Things seemed to get better like this after I set my cache to 0M. Anyway thanks for your help on this. -Thibbs (talk) 05:35, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Deprecated tags categories

Categories such as Category:United States articles with deprecated tags, amongst others with the same task, track pages with deprecated tags. How are the pages added to said category? I'm thinking automatically, in which case I was wondering how it finds the pages with deprecated tags. I haven't been able to find any script that does it and nothing obvious in Special:Version. 89.168.137.160 (talk) 16:25, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

The category is added to the tag itself, which propagates the category to all the articles that have the depricated tags.--Jayron32 16:28, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Is it possible to give an example of how such a thing is done? I've never seen anyone attach anything to something like <font>, <center>, etc. 89.168.137.160 (talk) 19:37, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

See Template:WikiProject Massachusetts. It is tagged with {{Tdeprecated}}. When you view Tdeprecated in edit mode you can see that it includes <includeonly>]</includeonly>. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 20:03, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Standardizing Misplaced Pages Usage of Princess Elizabeth

I've had a discussion today with another editor at this link with respect to standardizing Misplaced Pages usage as to how Elizabeth I is to be referred to in Misplaced Pages articles during the years 1536-1558. As I noted in my comments, almost every modern historian refers to her as 'Princess Elizabeth' during this period, as do very authoritative sources such as the Calendar of State Papers . Is there somewhere on Misplaced Pages where a discussion can take place and consensus can be reached on a topic such as this so that there isn't a discrepancy among the many Misplaced Pages articles which mention her, with some referring to her as 'Princess Elizabeth' and others as 'Lady Elizabeth'? NinaGreen (talk) 20:52, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

I, the other editor, noted in my comments that authors who have been knighted for their work on this matter (if we are going to use argumenta ad verecundiam) explicitly say that Elizabeth was no longer a princess after 1536 and that it was high treason to imply otherwise. The fact that she was not a princess anymore was of great significance, which is what the authors also explain in great detail. Anyway, I suggested a compromise - referring to Elizabeth simply as Elizabeth, which is plain, simple and accurate. However, this was flatly refused and no reason was given. Surtsicna (talk) 21:29, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

I'm hopeful someone at the Help Desk can indicate where on Misplaced Pages discussion of this topic can properly take place among a number of editors, and consensus can be reached as to the way Elizabeth I should be referred to during the period 1536-1558 in the many Misplaced Pages articles which mention her during that period, i.e. 'Princess Elizabeth', 'Lady Elizabeth', or just plain 'Elizabeth'. There needs to be consistency among Misplaced Pages articles so that readers aren't confused. I'm sure there must be someplace on Misplaced Pages where discussion takes place about the 'style' to be used when referring to royalty and members of the nobility. I'm just not sure where it is. NinaGreen (talk) 23:35, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

How about Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject English Royalty or the talk page of a related WikiProject?--ukexpat (talk) 01:55, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the helpful suggestion. I'll post something on the English Royalty Talk page. NinaGreen (talk) 18:06, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Removing page do to lack of reference.

Hello, It was brought to my attention that some of my content under the title, Tadahiko Mizuno, did not have the required supporting references. I have subsequently listed references supporting the content.

Currently it is proposed for deletion however I trust the supporting information will satisfy your needs for the removal of this notice.

Could you please confirm? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scientistssupporter (talk • contribs) 20:59, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

What makes you say it is currently proposed for deletion? A proposed deletion was declined last week after 16 minutes. I don't see anything since then. If you refer to User talk:Scientistssupporter#Proposed deletion of Tadahiko Mizuno then it's from the same declined proposal last week. Such notices are not removed from user talk pages – unless you do it yourself, but there is no need to. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:22, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Song titles in articles

How do you show a song or tune title? Is it "Jumping Joan", Jumping Joan or "Jumping Joan"? I've seen all three in articles, and a look through the style guide hasn't helped. Alansplodge (talk) 21:14, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

"Jumping Joan". See Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style/Text formatting#When not to use italics. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:24, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanking you kindly. Alansplodge (talk) 22:00, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

February 16

Fairy tales.

There is a nice bunch of authors creating articles based upon fairy tales written in the 19th century, at least twenty of them. I think these people need a bit of guidence and tidying up. Some of the articles are here on User_talk:Clevermammoth

The Devoted Friend, The Prince's Dream

Martin451 (talk) 01:07, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

I looked at The Heart of Princess Joan noted above under Stories of Mary de Morgan and it seems well referenced. Can you be more specific as to what guidence the Heart of Princess Joan editors need and what tidying up the Heart of Princess Joan article needs? -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 14:10, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Nuru

Hi, I would like to amend the content of this page: Nuru (massage). All my corrections have been deleted. Here are the explanations:

1. Nuru is a brand for a massage gel and not a massage technique. Active registration: https://www.swissreg.ch/srclient/faces/jsp/trademark/sr30.jsp

2. The word does NOT originates from the Japanese language and does NOT mean slippery: http://translate.google.com/#ja/en/nuru

3. Nuru is not a massage oil. It is a brand for a massage GEL. Oil is better for massaging purposes and keeps your skin greasy. Gel is easily washable and not so good for massage purposes.

4. External Links: The indicated link is pure commercial and should not be in an encyclopedia. These people abuse our brand. Please cancel it.

Conclusion: Please amend the content or delete the whole topic. Thanks. Adrianme (talk) 01:44, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

It looks like you are attempting to use Wikiepedia to promote your product, the gel, which just happens to have the same name as the technique, and that is not permitted. You may very well own a trademark registration for your product in a particular class or classes of goods but that does not give you any rights over the generic term. In any event the article does not have a single reference and only a single external link of dubious usefulness, so unless references can be found it is probably heading for deletion.--ukexpat (talk) 02:16, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Don't engage in an edit war. If an editor reverts your changes, don't put it back. Instead, discuss it on the article's talk page. See WP:BRD. You've already been given explanations on why your changes were undone on your talk page. RudolfRed (talk) 02:39, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

• The article now is at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Nuru (massage). -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 14:02, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Division I athletic directors

North Carolina Central University -NCAA Division I FCS - Athletic Director - Dr. Ingrid Wicker McCree — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.26.69.23 (talk) 03:02, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry, what was your question? – Philosopher  03:14, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Apparently, it's a riddle that we're supposed to figure out. :P --76.189.111.199 (talk) 01:04, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

CORRECTION PLEASE

Hi....article linked below leaves me out as co-author of the book. It says it was written by Howard Rosenberg. But a check of the reviews already posted or googling the book , will show it was written by Howard Rosenberg and Charles S. Feldman. I am a former CNN investigative correspondent in New York and L.A.; a current investigative reporter for KNX (CBS RADIO) Newsradio in L.A. and a former adjunct professor of journalism at USC Thanks Charles

http://en.wikipedia.org/%27%27No_Time_to_Think:_The_Menace_of_Media_Speed_and_the_24-Hour_News_Cycle%27%27 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.123.234.226 (talk) 04:03, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Name added in first paragraph. Nasnema  Chat  04:15, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

request for articles

i am preparing for exam on subject science so for gainig more information i request for articles on following topics:

1. Machines (motors, switches, circuits, hydraulic lift, wind mills etc)

2. Wind and Light (application of wind energy, working of parachute, working of camera etc)

3. Structure (Principle of Bridges, buildings, pyramids etc...)

4. Designs (Designing materials to solve challenges imposed by environment like tyres for rocky places, trebuchet to through marbles etc) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shubhi 6061 (talk • contribs) 09:25, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

At the top right of the page is a search box. If you type any of these terms into that box, you should be directed to Misplaced Pages articles on the subjects. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:57, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Did I do this move correctly?

There was an article, The psychology of film. A student blanked the page, wrote some new notes, and then moved the article to Dual-route hypothesis to reading. I discovered this, restored the version that existed before blanking, but discovered that the move was not undone. I tried to undo the move, failed, and manually moved the article back to The psychology of film. Now Dual-route hypothesis to reading had got an automatic redirect to The psychology of film which I erased and replaced by a sentence. I also wiped out the redirect of the talk page. Now I know that moving pages can be a bit tricky, so my question is, is everything as it should be or are there things left to be fixed? (Next time I'll undo the move before I revert to a previous version...) Lova Falk talk 10:51, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

You have restored The psychology of film correctly, as far as I can tell. I suggest you tag Dual-route hypothesis to reading with {{db-author}} so that Edienicol (talk · contribs) can start from scratch. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:05, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! Lova Falk talk 11:59, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Per the naming conventions, I have moved it to Psychology of film.--ukexpat (talk) 01:28, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Karen Harup

This:

"Death

On July 19, 2009, a Toyota Prius crashed through Harup's bedroom wall, hitting her and sending her flying out into the street, where she was run over twelve times. She was pronounced dead on the scene."

on the page Karen Harup#cite note-politiken.dk-1 is something of a mystery to me, since my mother died in a hospital bed after a stroke.

Is it possible for someone to delete the chapter?

Best regards and thanks,

Per Harup, eldest son of Karen Margrethe Harup Danmark — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.58.60.150 (talk) 11:42, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

There was apparently vandalism to the article in December, so I have reverted it. Thank you for pointing it out. - David Biddulph (talk) 11:51, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Logo

Can someone help me make this logo transparent? It is for Serbian Misplaced Pages 10 year anniversary.--Strower (talk) 15:16, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Joe Paterno page

Please consider changing the content of is page. It is based on the Freeh report which basically was a PSU Board of Trustees' attempt to buy a scapegoat. Please consider adding a more relevant report "The Paterno Report" produced by Dick Thornberg and individuals like Clemente who have prepared a report more substantial than Freeh's slanderous fit against Joe Paterno. I appreciate the fight for justice and not where money can place blame. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.92.92.66 (talk) 16:00, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

The best place to make this request is here. Chances are nobody here at the help desk is very familiar with the details of these different reports and so it's hard for us to make a good determination regarding their relative reliability. The other editors at the Joe Paterno talk page will be much more familiar with the topic and can help you make appropriate changes to the article. Good luck. -Thibbs (talk) 23:28, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

72.92.92.66, Misplaced Pages articles must never take sides. Article content is required to be completely neutral, reliably-sourced, and worthy of inclusion. Also, articles must give due weight to different sides of contentious issues. Therefore, your clearly biased views on the Paterno issue have no place in the article. For the record, the article includes content about his family's investigative rebuttal to the Freeh report. However, it certainly can be expanded. --76.189.111.199 (talk) 23:50, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

The help desk is supposed to be a place where questions about how to use Misplaced Pages are answered. But this is turning into a discussion about the content of an article. That discussion belongs at Talk:Joe Paterno. -Thibbs (talk) 00:05, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

The IP's request (to change the article's content) was properly addressed to explain where s/he can discuss the matter and how articles are to be edited. Therefore, there's nothing more to be done here. --76.189.111.199 (talk) 00:16, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Normandy, Missouri

Why can't I get my photo, "Glen Echo Country Club", to appear on the Normandy, Missouri page? ThanksBridgian (talk) 16:42, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi Bridgian. You have to be very technical when using computer code to use the exact name of things because close just doesn't work. Here, you left off the file extension (.jpg) which is part of the image's name. It's fixed now. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:02, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Please add ROBERT COTTINGHAM as a notable people of NEWTOWN CT.

Hi there, I grew up in Newtwon CT. and after looking up the info written about Newtown on Misplaced Pages, I noticed under the "Notable people" section, that the list is missing Robert Cottingham (who happens to be my dad).

There is a wikipedia page written for him which explains "He is considered to be one of most important original Photorealist painters." Robert Cottingam and my mom Jane Cottingahm have lived in Newtown Connecticut for over 35 yeas. They still live on the same property...Blackman Farm (founded in 1758). Some of the barns are converted into studios. Robert is still an active painter and is very much an influence in the art world today.

THANKS SO MUCH! Molly Cottingham — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.96.78.195 (talk) 18:30, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi Molly! I have added him. With friendly regards, Lova Falk talk 20:03, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Information about an article meeting the notability guidelines for wikipedia

Hello thanks for your help, I see that the picture I donated has shown up on the wiki article I am writing you about. I work for the company that represents Oryn the Rebel the american rapper out of Boston, it says that his article is an orphan and may not fit the music guidelines I would like to introduce articles that prove some of the musical accomplishments written about in the article Oryn the Rebel here is a link to the record "Underground heat volume one" http://www.rarehiphop.com/mixtapes_details.php?id=1 Oryn the Rebel produced this record along with Grand Master Caz ] featuring artist such as Freeway ] on number 14 and artist Shock G ] on number 18 of the Underground heat volume one mixtape. Please note that Oryn the Rebel is also known as Oryn the rebel, O-ry-n, O-ry-n the rebel, and oryntherebel his other records can be found at the following links http://www.icuentertainment.net/#!oryn-the-rebel/crkr http://soundcloud.com/oryn http://www.last.fm/music/oryn+the+rebel http://www.datpiff.com/Oryn-the-rebel-The-Best-Of-A-Rebel-mixtape.361533.html https://itunes.apple.com/dk/artist/oryn-the-rebel/id473529967

please let me know if this is sufficient to prove the musical accomplishments of Oryn the Rebel and have the article removed from orphan status and or have it meet the musical guidelines of Misplaced Pages thank you for your help173.48.241.46 (talk) 19:23, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

To "de-orphan" an article all you need to do it to create incoming links from other pages. That is, you need to edit other pages and create a link from them to the orphan article. This link will show what articles are currently linked to Oryn the Rebel. As long as there is a minimum of one incoming link from another actual article, you can simply remove the "orphan" tag at the top.

To establish notability is a bit more difficult. You'll need to provide multiple "reliable sources" that discuss him and include them in the article. Right now I see a New York Times link and that's a good start. You'll need more of these high quality sources to establish that the subject of the article is notable. The notability and orphan tags at the top of the page at Oryn the Rebel have important links inside them that can help you understand how to provide proper sources. -Thibbs (talk) 23:22, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Category German murderers of children

I've added the category to the articles of Helmut Kunz and Ludwig Stumpfegger, Hitler's personal dentist and surgeon respectively. I know that some oppose it. I ask here to open the discussion. Whether or not it's appropriate. Kotjap (talk) 19:52, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi Kotjap, I think I remember you from somewhere! Thank you for being willing to discuss this. However, the better place to discuss it is probably on the talk pages of the two articles concerned. If discussion there is unfruitful, perhaps get a WP:3O or have a WP:RFC on those talk pages. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 20:48, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Banda (opera)

(Also posted on Talk:Rigoletto)

Rigoletto#Instrumentation includes "banda", with a redlink to Banda (opera). I've just been looking for what is meant. "Banda" is Italian for

Band (in all senses); banner; company, crew. — civica, municipal band.

(Cassell's Italian Dictionary, 1967)

I have started a draft article, Thnidu/Banda (opera), which so far is barely even a stub but does have one offhand reference. I would appreciate any elaboration, especially by someone who knows the territory.

I have been looking for a more exact forum to post this in but without any success. List of musical ensemble formats looked promising but is minimal.

--Thnidu (talk) 20:55, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

The the finale of the 1812 Overture calls for a banda of any available brass instruments. Rmhermen (talk) 22:41, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Video in gallery

2013 Russian meteor event includes a video in a gallery. Clicking on it causes it to run the video but their doesn't seem to be a way to get to the image page. Is there a way to add a link like the icon in the regular video thumbnail? Rmhermen (talk) 22:46, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

I created a template for this, which currently is at User:Toshio Yamaguchi/Template:Video link with thumbnail. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 23:15, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

It doesn't show a thumbnail from the actual video, though, just a generic thumbnail I chose for this. I am not sure whether for most videos on Misplaced Pages showing a thumbnail from the actual video is really needed in the cases where a link to the video is to be provided such as you intend. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 23:26, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Well, I have to log out now. If the template is what you want to have, then feel free to move it out of my userspace into the template namespace (in that case, remember to move the doc subpage as well). -- Toshio Yamaguchi 23:43, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Incorrect information on page

Under the "Professional Career" section it states "Neutrality Disputed" because 'Citation needed'. However, cittion is clearly given:

Page Babar Ahmed (director)

Citations which are provided: http://www.seniorsworldchronicle.com/2011/06/usa-babar-ahmed-on-challenges-of-global.html http://wbi.worldbank.org/wbi/news/2010/08/10/video-highlights-innovative-cities-global-dialogue Computer998877 (talk) 23:53, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

You posted your thoughts on the article's talk page before you came here. That is the correct place to discuss the matter, not here. Good luck. --76.189.111.199 (talk) 00:09, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

(edit conflict) It looks like the "Neutrality Disputed" tag was placed on the article nearly 2 years ago. But the citations were just added a few minutes ago. Also the citations only cover one of the three "Citation Needed" flags. After you've introduced sources to cover the other two claims then I think it would be OK to remove the "Neutrality Disputed" notice. -Thibbs (talk) 00:14, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Thibbs, the tag is solely about the neutrality of some of the section's language, which is unrelated to the recently added cites. As I said in my prior comment, the editor did the correct thing by posting in the existing thread on the article's talk page. This matter is therefore resolved. --76.189.111.199 (talk) 00:27, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

I disagree that language choice was the central issue here. If you look at the original edit that placed the "Neutrality Disputed" notice, you'll see that the editor who placed this notice simultaneously tagged three separate lines as "citation needed". I think it's most likely that the editor who placed the "Neutrality Disputed" tag was equally concerned with the lack of citation for all three lines. Indeed this is reflected in the talk page post he made. At any rate finding citations for the two remaining "citation needed" claims or alternately removing the claims from the article would seem to cover the most likely root of the problem and couldn't hurt. -Thibbs (talk) 00:40, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Thibbs, you can discuss the matter on the article's talk page. While citation needed tags were added, there was also a separate neutrality issue with some of the content that still exists. We've addressed Computer998877's comment, so no further discussion is necessary from the help desk's perspective. --76.189.111.199 (talk) 00:55, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Again, I disagree that the "citation needed" issue is separate from the "neutrality disputed" issue here. All evidence points to the contrary. Applying proper sources where indicated by the cn-tags will fix any neutrality concerns. This isn't a content issue, it's an explanation of how to interpret NPOV tags. If you're unclear on the difference between help concerning content (like a discussion over the Paterno family's investigative rebuttal to the Freeh report) and help concerning how to use Misplaced Pages (like how to interpret cleanup tags) then please feel free to contact me at my talk page where I can elaborate without cluttering up the Help Desk. -Thibbs (talk) 06:06, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

February 17

Agnosticism

I have a problem with your definition of Agnostic. I was seven years old when I accepted the definition as my belief. That was 45 years ago and at that time the definition I read and took to heart said that an agnostic was a person who BELEVED in a Higher power ( something higher than Human) but did not believe in or condone any organized religion. Later in life a Phd in theology explained to me that that was then in fact my religion, which I couldn't argue with but which doesn't change the fact that I self describe myself as "Agnostic" defining it as a person who believes in a higher power but not in organized religion. If Misplaced Pages doesn't define my belief structure as agnostic, then what would Misplaced Pages define it as?

P.S. I believe Jesus could be defined as Agnostic if it weren't for the fact that he didn't believe in a higher power, he claimed to have personal knowledge of its existence. I believe Jesus lived (Human), I don't presume any relation he claims to of had with any diety. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.252.200.32 (talk) 00:28, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Unfortunately, we can't discuss article subjects here. The help desk "is only for questions about how to use or edit Misplaced Pages". Feel free to discuss the matter on the article's talk page if you have any suggested content changes for which you have reliable sources. However, per WP:TPG, please keep in mind that "talk pages are for discussing the article, not for general conversation about the article's subject. Keep discussions focused on how to improve the article". Good luck! --76.189.111.199 (talk) 00:34, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Yes, published reliable sources are critical to Misplaced Pages. I have never seen a source which used your definition, and lots which use Misplaced Pages's definition, so I don't think you would get support for a change. I don't know whether there is a term for your belief. That question would belong at Misplaced Pages:Reference desk/Humanities. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:55, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

I don't want to register, for fear of getting something wrong. Is there a link to suggest a topic, if so where? I couldn't find it.

I want to know more about a topic and i came here to see if i could find it. It is not a topic and i would love to know more about it. I searched around the site for a good hour, looking for a button to suggest a topic that hopefully someone would write about. Is that a thing on this site, or am I out of luck? 174.55.63.62 (talk) 01:11, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Look at WP:RA. That's the place to suggest new articles. But, only things that are notable get articles, so its possible what you're looking for doesn't qualify. RudolfRed (talk) 01:23, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

can a lawyer if he changes the contents of a will be charged for doing so?

That will depend on the laws of where you lived or where the lawyer works. You can try asking at the reference desk, if you provide more info, but the answer will only be in general terms. We can't give legal advice. RudolfRed (talk) 02:16, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

search box

simple question - how do i get rid of the drop down list on the search box? It's suddenly reappeared after years of using wiki and now i can't get rid of it.

Go to your preferences page, under the search section check the box to disable AJAX suggestions. RudolfRed (talk) 02:46, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Morgan Freeman's daughter not wife in that picture

The woman attending the Academy Awards with Freeman is not his wife, it is his daughter. Please change it. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.30.6.159 (talk) 01:57, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

 Done. I have corrected the caption in the article and on the image info page. That image is a crop of a bigger image that does include his wife.--ukexpat (talk) 02:45, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

oddity in Special:Search

When I do a search for "talk utc" in the Special:Search page with the default namespaces checked (including article) it returns nothing. However if I limit the search to only the article namespace, it does give me results. Why should reducing the namespaces increase the number of matches? (Note, I'm searching for this to find places where people have signed incorrectly on articles.Naraht (talk) 02:01, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Noob Under Attack by an Old Pro

I'm new to the game and I think I've spotted a problem with an article but each time I make a change or propose a change, "SlimVirgin" undoes it with either no explanation or an argument based on demonstrably incorrect information.

For reasons I do not understand, "SlimVirgin" now seems to be accusing me of "harassment" and is threatening to contact the "admin".

I don't know what I did to earn this seemingly hostile and irrational response.

I'm willing to learn but I'm not being offered any explanations or assistance.

Please help! MalibuSurfKing (talk) 02:09, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

You are not under attack, you need to read WP:NPOV and WP:BLP. Heiro 02:31, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Is this about Candace_Dempsey? If so, please follow the advice that you were given on the talk page there to read WP:NPOV and WP:BLP. You can also follow the advice at WP:DR to resolve the dispute. RudolfRed (talk) 02:34, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

why has mad bot deleted my article

I spent hours creating a page about my great grandfather which you have now deleted,MADBOT wahtever that is. some computer program no doubt|?? and there is no body else even called his name let alone being defamed or whatever, I HAVE GENEROUSLY DONATED TO YOU IN THE PAST AND FEEL extremelly let down to be treated in this way. and wikipedia has gone down in my estimation as result and now has no credibility. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thorp12 (talk • contribs) 03:34, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

The message from User:MadmanBot is a little confusing, but I think it's saying that you tried to recreate a deleted article without making changes to address the reason it was deleted in the first place. The article Bernard Andrew O'flynn was speedily deleted by User:Jimfbleak due to the criteria at Misplaced Pages:CSD#A7. If you disagree with that deletion, you can leave a message at that user's talk page. RudolfRed (talk) 03:46, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Thorp, you should fully educate yourself on Misplaced Pages's conflict of interest guidelines, which explain that "you should not create or edit articles about yourself, your family or your close friends". Therefore, you should not attempt to re-create an article about your great grandfather. Also, the guidelines instruct that if you are participating in an article in which you have a conflict of interest, you should disclose it on both your user page and the article's talk page. Good luck. --76.189.111.199 (talk) 05:03, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Who gave the right to a bot to leave messages on a user talk page that chews them out for re-creating a deleted article? This can really confuse new editors which doesn't help the project. Should we look for a shut-down slam-dunk button and clue that bot in?--Canoe1967 (talk) 06:24, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Now, I'm not sure that's what happened. The message from the bot is confusing, so that was my guess. I see now that the bot left its message before the speedy delete happened, so I think I was wrong. It's still a little confusing as to why it says the one article was a copy of itself. I'm going to ask the bot operator for an explanation. RudolfRed (talk) 06:32, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

The bot operator is very lucky I just got off a block for civility BS or my comment on her talk page would be far harsher.--Canoe1967 (talk) 06:37, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

reference page numbers

Is there a way to specify a reference and assign it a name, and then use it multiple times, each time with a separate page number? Or do I have to repeat the entire reference, with only the page number changed? PAR (talk) 06:15, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Look at the examples here: Help:References_and_page_numbers. I think the rp tag or the sfn method would do what you want. RudolfRed (talk) 06:24, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Yes, when you're on the edit page, choose a cite template and assign it a name in the "Ref name" field. If, for example you assign the name "Washington Post", then just insert <ref name="Washington Post"/> for all subsequent uses. See the "Using the same footnote multiple times" section of WP:CT. --76.189.111.199 (talk) 06:26, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Problems searching multimedia

I am trying to add pictures to an article and using the advanced search multimedia setting but no pictures come up and the message: "There were no results matching the query." appears. If I try refreshing the search, the pictures can come up some of the time. Could this be a poor internet connection?, too many people on Misplaced Pages to ask for pictures (be that pictures are a lot of data)?, or did one of my roommates somehow blacklist this computer? Biobrit (talk) 06:24, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

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