Talk:Timeline of Kosovo history

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see my other history notes page

I imported a bunch of dates from my page here: http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Mdupont/List_of_religious_places_in_Prizren

I spent 1 week on that time line it needs work, like i have all the mosques and churches of prizren in there they might need more explanation etc but it is a good start for understanding the history, putting the churches on the time line —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mdupont (talk • contribs) 15:46, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

please dont delete

We need to add in the external sources. I kindly ask you to give us some time to do so. it will take a week to review the entries and find sources for them. until then, dont delete this page. thanks, mike Mdupont (talk) 10:30, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

more sources

please add these sources

http://sofiaecho.com/2008/02/17/656689_kosovo-a-timeline-of-independence

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/country_profiles/3550401.stm

http://www.state.gov/www/regions/eur/fs_kosovo_timeline.html

http://www.infoplease.com/spot/kosovo-timeline1.html

http://www.setimes.com/cocoon/setimes/xhtml/en_GB/features/setimes/special/kosovo/contexts/timeline

http://www.mapreport.com/countries/kosovo.html

http://www.google.de/search?q=kosovo+timeline&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&hs=ZdK&tbs=tl:1&tbo=u&ei=lnChSte3FJLKmgPFvfnxDw&sa=X&oi=timeline_result&ct=title&resnum=11 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mdupont (talk • contribs) 19:58, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

References

Ok the article was full of links and non Refs like interwiki's and other inappropriate stuff.If you are interested in editin the article use references from books from reliable writers.Concentrate after 1300 and except very important events that effect the region write what has to do with Albanians in this place.Megistias (talk) 22:08, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Someone better find the first instance of Albanians in Kosovo.Some medieval writer.Megistias (talk) 22:36, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

sources of those mosques

I added a bunch of sources here : http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Mdupont/List_of_religious_places_in_Prizren

Moravian_Serbia

   * Information Service of the Serbian Orthodox Church
   * List of damaged buildings
   * reconstruction information
   * 
   * list of monastaries
   * The Diocese of Ras-Prizren and Kosovo-Metohija
   * Photographs of damaged churches
   * History of churches of Kosovo
   * Special Protective Zones

  1. ^ http://www.archive.org/stream/worldshistorysur05helmuoft/worldshistorysur05helmuoft_djvu.txt
  2. ^ http://www.archive.org/stream/worldshistorysur05helmuoft/worldshistorysur05helmuoft_djvu.txt
  3. ^ http://www.m-p-c.org/history/history.htm
  4. ^ http://books.google.com/books?id=QDFVUDmAIqIC&pg=PA380&lpg=PA380&dq=prizren+1453+history&source=bl&ots=8BjcM-8Vap&sig=cXEJtKVXAg6oDvijHwssXCew87A&hl=en&ei=o6mGSoHBE4af_Aa5ntmlBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2#v=onepage&q=&f=false
  5. ^ http://www.m-p-c.org/history/history.htm
  6. ^ http://www.telusplanet.net/public/dgarneau/euro57.htm
  7. ^ http://www.mzv.cz/tirana/en/about_albania/history_and_chronology_of_events_in.html
  8. ^ http://www.montenet.org/history/balsics.htm
  9. ^ http://www.serbianunity.net/culture/history/Hist_Serb_Culture/Sima_Cirkovic.html
 10. ^ http://www.kosovo.net/histkim.html
 11. ^ http://www.serbianunity.net/culture/history/Hist_Serb_Culture/Sima_Cirkovic.html
 12. ^ http://www.montenet.org/history/balsics.htm
 13. ^ http://macedonia.wikidot.com/themedievalhistoryofmacedonia
 14. ^ http://www.m-p-c.org/history/history.htm
 15. ^ http://www.kosovo.net/histkim.html
 16. ^ http://books.google.com/books?id=QDFVUDmAIqIC&pg=PA514&lpg=PA514&dq=prizren+1409&source=bl&ots=8BjcM-3Z9o&sig=JdtheX6M-wyJDqDs13w5EoRnY-M&hl=en&ei=oJeGStmFB5CMsAbLibz8Bw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5#v=onepage&q=prizren%201409&f=false
 17. ^ http://www.geckogo.com/Guide/Albania/People-Culture/History/
 18. ^ http://macedonia.wikidot.com/themedievalhistoryofmacedonia
 19. ^ http://macedonia.wikidot.com/themedievalhistoryofmacedonia
 20. ^ http://www.geckogo.com/Guide/Albania/People-Culture/History/
 21. ^ http://www.kosovo.net/esarhangel.html
 22. ^ http://www.albanian.com/main/countries/kosova/prizren/index.html
 23. ^ http://www.albanian.com/main/countries/kosova/prizren/index.html
 24. ^ http://www.ecoi.net/file_upload/1504_1220513623_law-on-special-protective-zones.pdf Special Protective Zones
 25. ^ http://portal.unesco.org/es/files/23707/11011375003Kosovo_Mission_Report_2.pdf/Kosovo%2BMission%2BReport%2B2.pdf
 26. ^ http://www.st-george-church.org/English/Kosovo_News.htm
 27. ^ http://portal.unesco.org/en/ev.php-URL_ID=23707&URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&URL_SECTION=201.html
 28. ^ http://www.ecoi.net/file_upload/1504_1220513623_law-on-special-protective-zones.pdf Special Protective Zones
 29. ^ http://www.rickosovo.org/RIC%20-english/Sites%20Church14.htm
 30. ^ http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=30946604
 31. ^ INTEGRATED REHABILITATION PROJECT PLAN /SURVEY OF THE ARCHITECTURAL AND ARCHAEOLOGICAL HERITAGE (IRPP/SAAH) Regional Programme for Cultural and Natural Heritage in South East Europe 2003 - 2008 FEASIBILITY STUDY Document adopted by the Ministry of Culture of the Republic of Serbia on 20 November 2007 http://www.coe.int/t/dg4/cultureheritage/regional/SEE/IRPPSAAH/FS/FS_KosovoUNMIK_CathedralStGeorgePrizren_APP.pdf
 32. ^ http://www.chwb.org/kosovo/english/newschurches.htm
 33. ^ http://www.rickosovo.org/RIC%20-english/Sites%20Church7.htm
 34. ^ www.spc.org.yu/Vesti-2004/03/list-23-3-04-e.html -Serbian Orthodox Church
 35. ^ http://portal.unesco.org/es/files/23707/11011375003Kosovo_Mission_Report_2.pdf/Kosovo%2BMission%2BReport%2B2.pdf
 36. ^ http://www.rickosovo.org/inc/eng/sites/st_kyriake_prizren.html
 37. ^ http://www.rastko.net/mnemosyne-2003/26_fr_conclusion_long-term.pdf
 38. ^ http://www.collegeart.org/pdf/BalkanHeritageDestruct.pdf
 39. ^ http://www.kosovo.net/esarhangel.html
 40. ^ http://www.archive.org/stream/bookofhistoryhis08bryciala/bookofhistoryhis08bryciala_djvu.txt
 41. ^ http://www.archive.org/stream/macedonia00dorduoft/macedonia00dorduoft_djvu.txt
 42. ^ http://portal.unesco.org/es/files/23707/11011375003Kosovo_Mission_Report_2.pdf/Kosovo%2BMission%2BReport%2B2.pdf
 43. ^ http://www.kosovo.net/ecreka.html
 44. ^ http://www.coe.int/t/dg4/cultureheritage/regional/SEE/IRPPSAAH/FS/FS_KosovoUNMIK_ChurchStSaviourPrizren_APP.pdf
 45. ^ abib ahmedi Theranda-Prizreni Ndër Shekuj pg 238
 46. ^ extracted from
 47. ^ Council of europe Integrated Rehabilitation Project Plan/Survey on the Architectural and Archaeological Heritage (IRPP/SAAH) http://www.coe.int/t/dg4/cultureheritage/regional/SEE/documents_en.asp
 48. ^ http://www.st-george-church.org/English/Kosovo_News.htm
 49. ^ http://portal.unesco.org/en/ev.php-URL_ID=23707&URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&URL_SECTION=201.html
 50. ^ http://www.ecoi.net/file_upload/1504_1220513623_law-on-special-protective-zones.pdf Special Protective Zones
 51. ^ http://www.travelkosova.com/modules.php?name=Articles&file=print&sid=7
 52. ^ http://www.birn.eu.com/en/62/10/1843/
 53. ^ http://westsrbdio.org/decani/decani_monastery.html
 54. ^ http://www.discoverserbia.org/sr/raska-i-ibarska-dolina/manastir-crna-reka
 55. ^ http://www.discoverserbia.org/sr/raska-i-ibarska-dolina
 56. ^ http://books.google.com/books?id=Fnbw1wsacSAC&pg=PA84&lpg=PA84&dq=Crna+Reka+kosovo&source=bl&ots=vyI_klEmT2&sig=IpRc2hz8TZFzQcroB4tmNJKLby8&hl=en&ei=YLiESr3cHJqknQO0lOjnBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9#v=onepage&q=Crna%20Reka&f=false
 57. ^ http://sr.wikipedia.org/sr-el/%D0%9C%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8%D1%80_%D0%A6%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%A0%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%B0
 58. ^ http://www.mancr.org/
 59. ^ http://westsrbdio.org/decani/decani_monastery.html
 60. ^ http://portal.unesco.org/es/files/23707/11011375003Kosovo_Mission_Report_2.pdf/Kosovo%2BMission%2BReport%2B2.pdf
 61. ^ http://web.mit.edu/most/www/ser/kos/shrines1.html
 62. ^ http://www.mfa.gov.yu/FDP/270303_e.html
 63. ^ http://www.zeriislam.com/bibliografia/NexhatI.html
 64. ^ http://www.eparhija-prizren.com/defaultE.asp?s=vesti&idvestep=650
 65. ^ http://www.archive.org/stream/livesofserbiansa00janirich/livesofserbiansa00janirich_djvu.txt
 66. ^ http://www.serbianunity.net/culture/history/Serb_History/Rulers/index.html  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mdupont (talk • contribs) 21:05, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Recent changes

I added extra information about the movements of Kosovo as both a land and a political unit. Some things had to be removed such as the independence of Albania and the recognition of it in 1913 (Treaty of London). This event is not directly relevant to any Kosovan subject. Evlekis (talk) 18:07, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Skanderbeg

Somebody added information about Skanderbeg in this article. Can anybody explain why are informations about Skanderbeg relevant for Kosovo history?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 13:38, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

1406

It reads:"1406 Stefan defeated and killed his brother-in-law Bayezid I's son Musa during the Battle of Despotovac in 1406. After the battle, Serbia had peace with the Ottomans for a long time."

Well, Musa died in 1413, not in 1406. (see Musa Çelebi and Ottoman Interregnum). I'll call the editor. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 11:49, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

No feedback to my remark.I'll clear out the event of regerding Musa Çelebi. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 14:43, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi, so why dont you fix the entry. Is the date wrong? Musa died in 1413? what about this ? "1406 Stefan won the Battle of Despotovac in 1406. After the battle, Serbia had peace with the Ottomans for a long time. Stefan Lazarević."

Stefan Dušan

With this edit User:Majuru extended the title of Stefan Dušan from Serbs and Greeks to Bulgarians and Albanians.

The main article about Stefan Dušan explains that his title was "Tsar of the Serbs and Romans" (Romans is equivalent to Greeks in Serbian documents).

I think that this assertion is supported with so many works that it is safe to conclude there is scientific consensus about it. Also, numerous reliable sources dispute his title being extended from Serbs and Greeks to include Albanians and Bulgarians too. Inclusion of Albanians and Bulgarians is not supported by scientific community and should not be presented as undisputed fact. Majuru, I propose you to look at article about Stephen Uroš IV Dušan of Serbia and taking in consideration above mentioned facts revert your above mentioned edit.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 15:06, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

You cannot use Wiki as a source for Wiki. The denomination was sourced. By the way, De administrando imperio will be removed, because Dresneik = Bresnik (Plevlje, Novi Pazar) . Majuru (talk) 14:35, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

I did not used wiki as a source for wiki. I pointed to the practice of the main article which is result of the consensus based on the sources.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 10:37, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

I removed large parts of unreferenced material, hoping to remove also the "multiple issues". Majuru (talk) 15:51, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

What you did can be seen as blatant vandalism and POV pushing. You removed information about Serbian Despotate (which included Kosovo) and its despots and disguised your edits by removing some unreferenced text altogether. It is very disruptive and should be sanctioned at sight.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 16:06, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry, they were not referenced. The article has multiple issues, they should be dealt with.Majuru (talk) 16:12, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

You don't reference that sky is blue. I don't intend to participate in your game here, but I do expect that your disruptive edits will be sanctioned.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 16:29, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Ducellier

To be used. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Majuru (talk • contribs) 20:39, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Rewrite underway

This article is currently being rewritten as part of Wiki Academy Kosovo. The draft for that sits at User:Eurisarukovci/Timeline of Kosovo history. Eurisarukovci (talk) 13:18, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

We've just pasted the draft, any comments and improvements are of course welcome. Eurisarukovci (talk) 15:54, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

The draft should first be approved before such major changes per Misplaced Pages:Editing policy. I will restore the stable version. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 17:42, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Territory which belongs to Albanians 600 years before Albanians were mentioned for the first time? Serb rulers are deleted without any explanation? Any help with this article is, of course, highly appreciated. Pushing certain nationalistic POV would not be constructive. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 18:06, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Per WP:BOLD, there is no requirement for such prior discussion. Also, the stable version has had a stable warning of multiple issues for over three years. It's past time something changed. Accusations of nationalism don't meet WP:AGF. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:42, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

There is such requirement per Misplaced Pages:Editing policy. Per WP:BOLD there is a requirement to discuss after revert. Not to edit war. Territories which are Albanian 600 years before Albanians were mentioned for the first time with removal of Serb rulers is hardly a way to resolve issues which are result of tag-bombing of this article.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 20:53, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

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