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section moved/socking

Just letting you know the section you started at the talk page of the admin noticeboard has been moved to the noticeboard itself and it would be a good idea for you to read the replies there and review WP:SOCK. Beeblebrox (talk) 05:29, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. By the way, I never used the other account (now deactivated) in the same discussion piece at the same time. But I do thank you for removing/blocking that account per my own request.--Kazemita1 (talk) 22:41, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Tafsir Roshan

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I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Tafsir Roshan for deletion, because it doesn't appear to contain any encyclopedic content. Take a look at our suggestions for essential content in short articles to learn what should be included.

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Re: Tafsir Roshan

You shouldn't do that. If you want to start an article and add content to it later, you should use your sandbox. This is your sandbox. — DivaKnockouts 00:14, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Got it.Kazemita1 (talk) 00:15, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

You can also create other sandboxes of you are using one. This can be done by creating an article like this "User:Kazemita1/sandbox/NAMEOFARTICLE". If you ever need anything, ping me on my talk page. — DivaKnockouts 00:26, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Appreciate it. That was indeed a helpful hint as my sandbox was already full.Kazemita1 (talk) 00:27, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Many articles created rapidly

Forgive me if I am incorrect, but it appears as though you are creating many articles very rapidly with very similar content. As I am not an expert in your field, I will not presume that you are doing anything wrong, just please be careful. Best wishes, and please let me know if you have any questions. --Jackson Peebles (talk) 01:48, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Dear friend,

Thank you for your comment. The reason they are being generated so rapidly is solely because I have only weekend to work on them. Otherwise, I would probably created them gradually. If notability is a concern however, I will do my best to bring in more scholarly references (preferably in English).Kazemita1 (talk) 01:55, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of Rawz al-jinan ve ruh al-jinan for deletion

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Deletion discussion about Tasneem Tafsir

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Thanks, Ajayupai95 (talk) 08:37, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Tafsir Hedayat

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A cookie for you!

have a cookie.good job at creating articles but please expand it further.:) Davidjohn13 (talk) 12:00, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. Will do my best.--Kazemita1 (talk) 13:19, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Please carry on!!

Hi kazemita!!!! Of course such edition resolve problems, and you can also add a little bit more as and when possible! I see that you've added some bare urls, which you can avoid otherwise you're doing a great job!!! I'm really sorry now for putting your article for deletion...:(Ajayupai95 (talk) 02:38, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

Keep it up!!! And I'm sorry ... :) Ajayupai95 (talk) 02:41, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

No worries. It is good to have users like you guys that guarantee the quality of Misplaced Pages. and thanks for the Baklava; indeed is one of my favorites--Kazemita1 (talk) 02:46, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

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Menhaj Al-Sadeghin

Could you either stop creating these small articles that say nothing or start adding some information. You were asked in Tasneem Tafsir case the same thing. I haven't a clue what "century exegesis" is and the phrase in all the articles. It's hard to tell if the subject is a person or a book.

Also, interwiki links no longer go inside articles. See WP:WIKIDATA for more details. Bgwhite (talk) 09:15, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for the heads-up on Tasneem Tafsir as I was not sure the discussion got serious. I went ahead and added the century number to Menhaj Al-Sadeghin as well. Thanks for that as well.

Wow! So Misplaced Pages can detect if there is a similar article in other languages? That certainly means less work for me. Will keep that in mind.Kazemita1 (talk) 04:13, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

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Just noticed this - are you sure about the letter"v" in the title? If that's a waw, as I believe it is, and the word is the Arabic for "and", the word normally spelled "wa", I believe. PiCo (talk) 22:19, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Good catch man! You are absolutely right. I just need to know how I can change the name now. Thanks alotKazemita1 (talk) 02:17, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

That's the sort of thing I don't know about. A redirect would work, but there might be some other, more preferable, way. If you can find an admin, you can ask on their talk-page (there are sure to be admins who have left messages here on your own page). PiCo (talk) 11:45, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Nikah mutah

Before you consifer adding your misyar info remember this discussion already occurred and after much talk it was rejected. Misyar is permanent marriage while muta is not. The criticism is about the temporary nature of mitah. So the comparisob is way off. You are trying to build a house of sand. You claim some scholar said misyar is temporary or that sunnis practice temporary? Well whoever you qilioted knows nothing about this topic or you have simply misquoted. This is proven from common sense alone becaude if sunnis practice temporary marriage then why are we so against muta. Anyone with logic can see the cinfusion in your edits. And anyway if you feel they are the same then add rhem on the misyar page not on criticism of twelvers page. This is criticism of twelver not criticism of sunni to make twelvers feel better. You want to defend murah then defend it by saying why the criticism of it as sexual deviance is incorrect according to twelvers.instead your trying to defend a wrong with another so called wrong. Thats wrong. Remember misyar was already rejected before in the artivle so dont keep adding it without consent.Suenahrme (talk) 04:00, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Did you even bother reading what the scholar said, before reverting my edit? She realizes Misyar is permanent and Mutah is temporary, yet she finds similarities between them. Also, I read the Washington post article that was posted as a reference for the allegation that Mutah being a cover for prostitution. That did not come from the article, itself, but by just a female activist. You need better references for such a big claim.--Kazemita1 (talk) 15:11, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

You just admitted misayar = permanent & you admit the scholar says this. Well guess what that is why misyar was rejected for being added on the section in the previous discussion on the talk page. I think your having trouble realising that the reason mitah is criticised is because of it temporary bature. I dont know how many times i have to tell you this. Unless you can find a remporary sunni marriage you must stop trying to add the misyar section. Ni one is criticizing mutah for aby other reason than its temporary nature so fing something that is also temporary in other faiths if you want to include. But misyar is not it so stop reverting your edit when it is incorrect and pkus it has already been rejected for includion. And read all the sorces for pristitution given dont just take 1 and say its not enough. The end result is that this is what the refs say.Suenahrme (talk) 23:53, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Mutah is not criticized just because of its temporary nature. It is criticized for multiple reasons, namely the fact that it is for men's pleasure. For this matter, Misyar is also found to be of similar category and criticized accordingly. Take this source for example:

"The sole object of the Misyar and Muta marriages is for sexual gratification in a licit manner. Like most practices in Islamic society, this is also skewed in favour of the male."

Islam and the West: The Clash Between Islamism and Secularism, By Mushtaq K Lod, p. 59

As you mentioned the end result is determined by the references. So do not start an edit war and let the reliable sources show up in the article.--Kazemita1 (talk) 01:43, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Unbelievable. Of course mutah is onlt criticised because of its temporary nature. If mutahwas permanent then no sunni or westener on earth would be criticizing it. Misyar is permanent. No one is criticising mutah in the section for any other readon than its temporary nature. Temporary doesnt equal permanent. Therefore stop including your incorrect edit. Also your problem with me should also extend to the other editors who already rejected mistars addition on the talk page. So stop making it as though i am the only one holding this position. Until u can prove another temporary marriage from sunnis or any other religion stop your wrong edit.Suenahrme (talk) 02:44, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

What is unbelievable? The fact that Misyar and Mutah are equally criticized by this western source?--Kazemita1 (talk) 03:49, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

What is unbelievable is your stubbornness. Nothing other than the temporary narure of muta is criticised in the article yet you want to add musyar in the article. And just because the source says misyar like mutah is solely practiced for sexual pleasure does it make it true. Misyar is not practiced like mutah for solely sexual pleasure because it is permanent marriage. Simple as that. Should we then cobclude that all permanent marriage is practiced solely for sexual pleasure. So your ref here is not relevant because it nakes no sense. You need to add a marriage that is temporary if you want to include it along with the mutah section. Good luck in finding that. Anyway this article is called criticidm of twelver. Not criticism of others unrelated practices to make twelvers feel better about themsleves. Unless you can relate the temporary nature of mytah with another religions practice you are only defending a loosing cause.Suenahrme (talk) 05:07, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

The fact that Nothing other than the temporary narure of muta is criticised in the article is solely because you are removing sourced content from the article:

• "The sole object of the Misyar and Muta marriages is for sexual gratification in a licit manner. Like most practices in Islamic society, this is also skewed in favour of the male."

Islam and the West: The Clash Between Islamism and Secularism, By Mushtaq K Lod, p. 59 Kazemita1 (talk) 05:12, 30 March 2013 (UTC)