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Just an FYI

You left a complaint on the user page in regards to a recent edit of Mark Levin. I just wanted to let you know that this IP belongs to an entire county wide library consortium. Thousands of people frequent our libraries pub pc's daily. So just in case you see this IP in the future, just remember it's not one person LOL.

Complaint

Hi i see you've edited out my additions regarding the Royal Antediluvian Order of Buffaloes and the IOOF. Just because your not privy to certain archives don't mean you have the right to go about and doctor history towards you way of thinking. Its a well known fact that Tom Skinner, was an Oddfellow in Auckland and it should be mentioned because the IOOF were a MAJOR organization in their day and deserve a bit of publicity same too with the RAOB. As for Sir Basil Arthur, Ive actually seen the article which appeared in a local Timaru paper during the 1960's that mentioned Sir Basil as being a staunch member of the Royal Antediluvian Order Buffaloes, and old members have confirmed this. Even when he was in Parliament he still attended lodge meetings when he was able. As for Bill Rowling, old members of the RAOB in New Zealand well recall Bill in Lodge meetings. He was initiated into Nikau Lodge in the 1950s in Northland and attended meetings in various lodges including in Motueka Lodge. I actually have spent many hours talking to old members of the Buffs and then doing research through the Buffaloe Archives. Most if not all my information is privately sourced and is not public domain stuff. I like to share these little insights with you because all too often history becomes one sided. These historical figures had a life away from politics. One gains a new appreciation for some of these people when one discovers they were more then just a politician or union figure but actually put back into their community through such ancient and honorable fellowships as the RAOB and IOOF respectively. (GrandVoice (talk) 03:24, 18 September 2012 (UTC))

Thanks

Many thanks, Trusilver, for all you do on Misplaced Pages, especially keeping my personal pages free of vandalism. Regards, Pinethicket (talk) 23:25, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much. It's certainly appreciated. :) Trusilver 00:11, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Something different

	The Respectable Captain
	After reading your remarks and thoughts, I concluded you must be a distinguished airplane pilot. Itemirus (talk) 23:34, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Hah! That just made my whole day :) I was taking a drink when I clicked on my talk page and damned near spit it out when I saw this. Thank you very much! Trusilver 00:12, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

how can i ??

how can i make constructive pages and r u the administrater of wikipedia ???????? — Preceding unsigned comment added by K K Kothari (talk • contribs) 03:23, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

The first thing is to understand that edits like this are totally unacceptable. Trusilver 03:51, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

No source whatsoever.

That "article" had no source at all. How did it get published to start with? ANY article is better than NO article? Really?A Source Monster (talk) 20:52, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

The correct method of dealing with sourcing problems is to tag it for references, bring up your issue in the talk page, CSD tag it IF there is a copyright issue, or (and here's a really crazy idea) find some sources for it yourself. Blanking an article arbitrarily is NOT an acceptable solution. Have a good day. Trusilver 21:00, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

YES! Dlohcierekim 21:19, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

"or (and here's a really crazy idea) find some sources for it yourself"? Why? I didn't put that pseudo-article up to start with. Did the original publisher follow ""The correct method"? "ANY article is better than NO article?"A Source Monster (talk) 21:30, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Yes... find some sources. We work as a collective here, the best solution to finding something that is wrong with the encyclopedia is to fix it. I have no intention of arguing with you about it. If you have a problem with the article, then address it with one of the methods I just provided you. This is how we do things here. You can always take up your issue at the reliable sources noticeboard. However, continuing to blank the entire article is going to be futile, as that ANY wikipedian monitoring recent changes will revert a blanked article. Have a good day. Trusilver 21:35, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

@A Source Monster-- YES. Really. It's what we do. Not every article is well sourced and well structured to start with. We don't know such articles need to be deleted till after we try to improve them. We are a collaborative effort. And we never blank someone else's work unless it is required under G10 or BLP or copyright. Dlohcierekim 21:50, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Tru, thank you for being polite.

I do not have the ability to pursue this. I was interested in the subject, and had no problem with the article itself. But the sloppy method irritated me. Not only was it published without sources, but edited without them, too. Not encyclopedic, was it? So I rocked the boat. Now several real "Wikipedians" are aware of this stuff. I would hope that this article will be improved, or deleted, in the future. So, again, thank you for being polite.

BTW, I am going to post this answer to another polite Wikipedian. Hope that doesn't offend you.A Source Monster (talk) 23:10, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Not a problem at all. I was just about to go over to the article and put a tag on it for no sources, but User:Dlohcierekim already beat me to it. Trusilver 23:15, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Perro verde

not seeing the page blank. Just revert to Spanish. A7 either way. Dlohcierekim 21:19, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Where did the editor request the page to be deleted per your A7? Go Phightins! (talk) 21:20, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Ah, sorry about that. I actually had to look this up, as I didn't have the slightest clue what you were talking about. I could have sworn I A7'd this one rather than G7'd it. Thank you both for the quick catch. Trusilver 21:23, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

No problem, it wasn't going to last long anyway. Happy editing, Go Phightins! (talk) 21:25, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Oh, but never fear! It's back again. G4 this time? :) Trusilver 21:27, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

G4 only for AfD. For all I know, it's notable, so they can try again to get it up. Hopefully in English, w/ 20 verifiable sources Dlohcierekim 21:46, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Did we ever figure out what Perro Verde translated to English is? Go Phightins! (talk) 21:49, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Direct translation is "green dog" or possibly "fresh" or "young" dog. Depends on the dialect. Trusilver 22:06, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Well, that's what I'd have guessed based on my limited Spanish knowledge...it's been a while. Thanks for your help on the article. Go Phightins! (talk) 22:09, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

I don't think it's notable either. I've spent the last twenty minutes using my half-assed ability to read Spanish and I'm not really seeing any obvious sources for it. If the article DOES come back with refs, it would probably be helpful to have someone that speaks better Spanish than I do to check them out, because I'm not finding anything in English. Trusilver 22:12, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Well, it also should probably be on the Spanish Misplaced Pages as well. Anyway, thanks. Go Phightins! (talk) 19:46, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Dave 02:30, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Barnstar of Reversion

	Anti-vandalism contributions
	Thank you for protecting us from the vandals. Your work is greatly appreciated! ComputerJA (talk) 17:36, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you kindly. It's much appreciated! Trusilver 17:36, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Jaipur Kathak Kendra

trusilver when are you adding back whatever i have added to wikipage jaipur kathak kendra and you have removed saying you did not find it constructive. i have written a explanation but have not been able to see a change. this is second time you i have tried adding value to wikipedia in years but both times nothing happened and i felt having wasted time — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kathakjaipur (talk • contribs) 06:38, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

To answer your question, adding the telephone number and address of the subject of an article is neither encyclopedic nor appropriate under several policies. Misplaced Pages is not a directory. Trusilver 06:45, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Great Job!

You keep beating me to reverting vandals...that's about 15 times so far, stop that :P --at-210 17:47, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Hah, you have beaten me a few times today too. I think the speed comes from doing this crap for five years :) Trusilver 18:00, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	You always a bit faster than me (and sometimes ClueBot) with Huggle, and you do a very good job keeping Misplaced Pages free from vandalism, so I think you should have this :) Altaïr (talk) 17:59, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you kindly :) Trusilver 18:01, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Also... keep in mind that you use STiki. I don't use that application for a reason... I feel that Huggle, while being a little more complicated, is more useful for identifying vandalism. The queue parameters for STiki are too narrow, in my opinion. Trusilver 18:28, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

Thanks for reverting IP vandalism on my talk page. WikiPuppies bark 20:32, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! Trusilver 00:28, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks again, Trusilver, for your effort to keep Misplaced Pages free of vandalism. Regards, Pinethicket (talk) 22:44, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, always glad to be of help. Trusilver 00:18, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Removal of link

Please restore the link to http://financialstatementschool.com/ to the Financial Statement Analysis topic. I believe you made a mistake by removing it. Please look at "Further Reading" #4. It's a homemade website with a very incomplete list of some financial ratios. Why is this link here? I thought the one I added was much more useful to readers.

According to the guidelines, a link may be inserted when it contains helpful/additional info. over and above what the wikipedia page can cover. I think the link I had added fits this well. The site has a huge list of ratio calculations with the actual calculation, description, analysis, and even analysis of a sample financial statement. Please look at this:

http://financialstatementschool.com/categories/263/ratios.aspx

Here is one of the entries:

http://financialstatementschool.com/2008/07/16/activity-ratios-and-accounts-receivable-turnover.aspx

Thanks!

Kenpirok (talk) 23:36, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

I have looked over the article and your site, as well as removed two other links from the article (the one you talked about and another that was far more commercially slanted than yours.) As far as your site goes, it has a lot of useful information on it, and I don't feel that the link to your commercial site is EXTREMELY blatant. Obviously you would like to use Misplaced Pages as a means to funnel traffic to your site, and you don't go to extremes to hide your COI issue. Also... keeping in mind WP:ADV, I feel that the wealth of information on the site that is not available on the article warrant inclusion. Overall... the content is very informational and the link over to your commercial site is low-key. Unless anyone else has an objection to it, please feel free to re-insert the link. I'm going to remove the warning on your userpage. Trusilver 01:41, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Ahh...

We'll make a Tide fan out of you yet! Seriously, I know it's just a click, but thanks for the clean up. See ya 'round Tiderolls 23:57, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

No problem. I figure after I revert vandalism on your user page for the 100th time, there is some kind of prize coming to me. Trusilver 00:37, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Thanks for the great edits, not to mention your military service!

Mathiasr101 (talk) 01:23, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, especially for the second part. It's always much appreciated. Trusilver 01:54, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Adopt a user

Adopt me please, I am dannyboy1209 working under an ip 92.0.126.49 (talk) 21:33, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Your account has been blocked indefinitely. As such, you are not permitted to edit in any capacity. If you would like a second chance, I suggest you go through proper channels as noted on your account's talk page. Until then, I'm afraid that I cannot help you. Trusilver 23:34, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

John Salvi

I have no idea how to work this thing, but your article on John Salvi is atrocious. Do a little research and get it right. What you have there could be farther than the truth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.34.80.8 (talk) 01:20, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Sounds fantastic! How about you try your hand at fixing it.... only this time please read WP:NPOV, WP:V and WP:RS first. If you need help, I would be happy to assist you. Trusilver 01:24, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

reverting

owl city is a band. and he overenunciates. labeling owl city as musical project is advertising. see http://strictlyalright.tumblr.com/post/31411352317/not-linking-to-that-carly-rae-owl-city-duet — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.205.185.49 (talk) 12:54, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Somebody's blog is not a reliable source. Whether he "overenunciates" or not is irrelevant unless you have a reliable source that suggests it. Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia, not a place to editorialize your opinion. Trusilver 12:59, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

even if you are right about enunciating (which i don't think you are), the phrase "musical project" is awful, ask the next 10 editors you interact with (respectable) ones, if 8 or more agree with band, please change it to band. If 7 or less agree with using band vs musical project leave it be. I am betting 80%+ will agree with me. musical project = advertising/marketing

Again, we are entering the realm of your opinion. If you want to publish your opinion, go start a blog. Misplaced Pages is not a publisher of original thought. As for the musical project part? I couldn't care less if I tried really hard. You see... I have neither heard of, nor am really interested in hearing this band or musical project, or whatever they choose to call themselves. Feel free to change that part if you like, that wasn't why you were being reverted. You were being reverted for the overenunciation part which is non-notable speculation without a reliable source to back it up. Trusilver 12:19, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

My edits to Sharman Joshi

Thank you for warning me. I did not know that converting an biography into autobiography is vandalism. I am very sorry. Thank you for the information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.242.54.145 (talk) 14:00, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia, not an exercise in creative writing. We write things from a neutral perspective, we do not write biographical articles as though the subject were writing it himself. Trusilver 14:03, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Youre Great. I love you, here is a kitten to show my appreciation

A232921 (talk) 14:16, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Police

Please refrain from removing content from my talk page. Factocop (talk) 13:53, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome Trusilver 14:25, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Nothing personal but I didnt expect to see an edit war on my page disappear without getting a chance to review it. And the user in question wasnt exactly bothering/hounding me...I would say that I have become a bit more petty just because in the past users have had tried to get me blocked over the silliest of comments. I told a user that they were being petty and suddenly my name turned up at ANI.Factocop (talk) 16:59, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Certainly understandable. No offense taken. Trusilver 18:38, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks again, Trusilver, for keeping my personal pages free of vandalism. Regards, Pinethicket (talk) 17:37, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Not a problem :) Trusilver 18:38, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Adopt-a-user

Hi Trusilver. I'm leaving you this message because you have previously been involved as an adopter with Misplaced Pages's Adopt-a-user program. A clean-up of this program is currently underway, and as part of the process I am trying to find out who is and isn't still interested in remaining an adopter.

If you would prefer not to be part of the adoption program anymore, you need do nothing; when the overhaul of the project is completed your name will be removed from the list of active adopters. However, if you have current adoptees, an active adoption school or an interest in adopting in the near future, then please let us know by signing here.

If you want to remain in the project and can currently take on more adoptees, there is a serious backlog at Category:Wikipedians seeking to be adopted in Adopt-a-user; it would be enormously helpful if you could take on one or two of the users there. Please do keep an eye on the project for upcoming changes, we could use your opinions and your help! Yunshui 雲‍水 09:23, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi Trusilver. Thanks for agreeing to stay on at Adopt-a-user. I've recently updated the list of adopters and I have included you, per your original comments on that page and your comments at User:Yunshui/Overhaul/Adopters staying on. You can see your new profile at the list of adopters. Why not update your profile with an image and maybe have another look at your description? You can also include a list of any adoptees you currently have. If you are also willing to mentor problematic users, possibly as part of a conditional unblock, please include "mentorship=yes" in your profile. Thanks again for all your help. Worm(talk) 13:38, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for defending me from the person who was so upset over the stubbification. Too bad he left a message that seems to indicate that you fed a troll.--I dream of horses If you reply here, please leave me a {{Talkback}} message on my talk page. @ 00:40, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Some people are intent on never getting a clue regardless of how many times you tell them. Trusilver 13:43, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Signature

I neglected to thank you for updating your signature, which is indeed more legible. Thanks! Kiefer.Wolfowitz 22:28, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Absolutely! You are most welcome. Trusilver 23:18, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for taking the time to participate in my RfA. I hope that I will be able to improve based on the feedback I received and become a better editor. AutomaticStrikeout 03:29, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

José Bosingwa

I have no idea what you're on about, I haven't made edits to this article or any article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.178.222.161 (talk) 20:42, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

It was most likely someone else using the same IP address as you are, then. Unfortunately, we can not identify the difference between multiple users on the same address unless they are signed in with Wiki accounts. Trusilver 23:04, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Trusilver/Erik A. Williams

User:Trusilver/Erik A. Williams, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/User:Trusilver/Erik A. Williams and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:Trusilver/Erik A. Williams during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. duffbeerforme (talk) 12:29, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Was this vandalism?

Hi Trusilver-- I noticed you warned another user Itsatraplin (talk · contribs) for vandalizing Taenia solium. I looked at their contribution history, and while their edits probably were correctly reverted, edits like , , or did not appear (to me) as obvious vandalism. Is there something I am missing here, because these looked like legitimate attempts to improve the article (albeit, without appropriate sources). If you could, could you clarify why you thought this was vandalism? I, Jethrobot (note: not a bot!) 02:02, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

No, actually that was just a few odd unsourced changes to an article that I incorrectly labelled. Trusilver 23:03, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Always a pleasure..

...to see you around. Wifione 05:25, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, always good to see you nominating good admin candidates :) Trusilver 17:24, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:ChildofMidnight/FAT (Architecture)

User:ChildofMidnight/FAT (Architecture), a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/User:ChildofMidnight/FAT (Architecture) and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:ChildofMidnight/FAT (Architecture) during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Mercurywoodrose (talk) 03:40, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Cheers for the message!

" Hello, I'm Trusilver. I wanted to let you know that I undid one of your recent contributions, such as the one you made to Epistle to the Romans, because it didn’t appear constructive to me. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks, Trusilver 16:37, 17 September 2012 (UTC)"

Thanks for this - I have no idea what you are referring to. I guess that someone else's IP has been reallocated to me. Cheers though!92.26.119.60 (talk) 23:29, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

That's very likely what happened. Have a good day and happy editing :) Trusilver 18:22, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Vampire clans

A while ago (back in 2008, in fact), you voted "proceedural keep" for Tremere, because it was isolated from the rest.

Now it has been a few years and I don't know if you were that interested with it to start with, but I've started a discussion for a group merge of all the clans here. If you have any opinions, it'd be great to hear them. It'd be annoying to just see the discussion die without anyone noticing.

Since you seem to still be active (what luck!), I'm going to assume you'll read this and thank you advance in for reading. Thanks! – Bellum (talk) 22:49, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Hi Trusilver. I hope I am contacting you via an appropriate messaging tool. I am brand new to Misplaced Pages editing. I found you on the list of people willing to mentor. I need a mentor. I know nothing. I want to correct errors of fact on a particular Misplaced Pages page but I do not know how to go about that in the Misplaced Pages way. Frankly, I expect the edits will not be taken well by some. On the Misplaced Pages page I want to edit, the contributors do not seem to be using the Talk page. Hopefully, you will be interested in mentoring me. Since I do not know the first thing about the inner workings of Misplaced Pages, I will be more likely to get a reply from you if you email to me. My email is sailinstuff@yahoo.com. Thanks!!! SailinStuff (talk) 03:13, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

I am more than willing to help you and answer any questions you have, but I am not actively mentoring at this time. I have a job which makes my editing time unpredictable. I do check in every day though, so feel free to pose any questions you might have to me and I will help out wherever I can. Trusilver 03:35, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

You've got mail!

—Theopolisme (talk) 14:29, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

I'm not one to touch another man's user page...

...but would you mind indulging me? I'm having an attack on all the red-link categories relating to Wikiprojects. Right now your user page is the only one linking to category:WikiProject League of Copyeditors participants. I can see that there's a bit of history there, I'm not expecting you to touch the user box but would you mind either disabling the category link, or editing it to category:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors members ? I only have mild OCD, honest!!! <g> TIA Le Deluge (talk) 22:57, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Absolutely :) Done and done. Some of the best Wikipedians have OCD'ish tendencies. Trusilver 23:36, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Cheers. <g> Le Deluge (talk) 13:37, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

I saw you changed some stuff on my page about the Neuron

Yo dog! What you think this is!? You said it wasn't productive!? Do you know who i am!? I don't have to take this! If you ever change my page about the Neuron, we gonna have some problems! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.255.175.238 (talk) 15:49, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

That's nice. Have a good day and don't forget to take your meds. Trusilver 23:11, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Mail

--Anthony Bradbury 19:56, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

Replied! Trusilver 04:36, 25 March 2013 (UTC)