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A vast majority of this article's submissions are in an Indian language. If someone would be able to check them, it'd be appreciated :)

gwickwire_editing 02:08, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Chaudhary

Hi..All.. Should title Chaudhary be used in the title in biographies according to WP:COMMONNAME or should it not be used due to MOS:HONORIFIC, e.g. Chaudhary Lal Singh's official name is Lal Singh--Vigyani (talk) 07:04, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Unless the Chaudhary is a part of the individual's name, treat it as an honorific and don't use it in the title. (cf. Charan Singh) --regentspark (comment) 13:09, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Indian Armed Forces

I would like to draw the attention of the regular users of this board to the 'criticism' section of this article. I have filed an RfC regarding this section that aims to gain consensus on the validity of this section, particularly in the light of wikipedia policies concerning criticism sections. Generous commentary on that page is invited.Handyunits (talk) 09:39, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Saradha scandal for ITN

Hi all, a debate is going on at Misplaced Pages:In_the_news/Candidates#Saradha_Group_financial_scandal to decide if the article on Saradha Group financial scandal should be featured at ITN. Pls have a look and if you want pls do participate in the discussion. LegalEagle (talk) 08:28, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Peths of Pune

A very new Misplaced Pages editor Coolgama (talk · contribs) has:

• Moved Shaniwar Peth to Shaniwar Peth,Pune (yes, missing out the space)
• Created a new article about "Shaniwar Peth" as a generic term, at Shaniwar Peth (this version with a "see also" link (not a hatnote) to point to Shaniwar Peth,Pune
• Changed all the links in Peths in Pune
• Not amended the many incoming links for "Shaniwar Peth"

I've moved this one article, and fixed a hatnote for it, but the same has been done for many other "xxx Peth" articles.

I came across some of the "xxx Peth,Pune" articles while stub-sorting, and sorted them.

Not all the Peths had existing articles - for some, like Sadashiv Peth,Pune, a new stub article has been created but with nothing at Sadashiv Peth (neither a redirect nor an article with a hatnote).

There are a lot of links from {{Pune topics}} which will need to be fixed to point to the various articles - now either redlinks or pointing to the generic articles.

I don't know whether these localities are notable, whether the places in Pune are primary topics, etc, but some cleaning up seems needed. I've left a note on the editor's talkpage. PamD 13:14, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

The article Peths in Pune should be moved to Peth (locality), and the Pune-specific content should be a subsection within that article. The pages Shaniwar Peth, Budhwar Peth etc. should redirect to this page. 99.230.200.112 (talk) 03:54, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Help needed from Bengali Wikipedians

Could anyone help to expand this table User:Titodutta/sandbox1? You can find the list of the stories in the article Feluda. And I can help with resources too! --Tito Dutta (contact) 06:14, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Ban on use of Hindi etc. in lead brackets

I've just been made aware by good Tito D of the WP:India ban on giving Hindi etc. script. Here etc. preventing a lead such as normal with Chinese, Arabic, Russian, Japanese, Korean, Thai, articles.

• Akio Morita - Akio Morita (盛田 昭夫 Morita Akio, January 26, 1921 in Nagoya, Aichi – October 3, 1999 in Tokyo) was a Japanese businessman...

This would seem to me to be out of line with WP:RS. Not having the local spelling of BLP for example is a guaranteed way to decrease quality of sources. I regularly de-PROD new BLPs, but usually let the Indian BLPs die, simply because without clear Telugu, Tamil, Malayalam, Bengali or Hindi names it is usually impossible to even find sources, let alone assess then. Is everybody happy that the ban has resulted in an improvement in article reliablity and sourcing since it was implemented in Jan 2012? In ictu oculi (talk) 07:00, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

I regularly de-PROD new BLPs, but usually let the Indian BLPs die, simply because without clear Telugu, Tamil, Malayalam, Bengali or Hindi names it is usually impossible to even find sources

—Good point! I also often can not check Tamil, Telugu etc sources! --Tito Dutta (contact) 07:31, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

I can usually guess the Hindi, sometimes guess the Bengali or Telugu. But it's mainly too much effort, better to let the article die. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:19, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

WP:India is in no position to ban anything. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:50, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

In ictu oculi, the consensus is to avoid using indic scripts in the lead. There was a long discussion on this but part of the problem with Indian articles is that there are many candidate scripts for the same title. For example, take someone like Surjit Singh Barnala. As the former governor of Andhra Pradesh and Tamil Nadu, and as a former Union Minister, one could easily argue that his name should be rendered in Telegu, Tamil, Devanagari and Gurmukhi. In fact, there are plenty of reliable sources for the rendering of his name in all those scripts. That, obviously, is a bit different from the case of Akio Morita who has only his Japanese script to deal with. For this reason, as well as for many other reasons the consensus was that it is better not to clutter the lead with a plethora of scripts. Though I don't see it in Mr. Barnala's case, I believe that the consensus was that it was ok to use indic scripts in an info box. In which case, you would have no problem finding sources. --regentspark (comment) 21:14, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

RegentsPark, I see what the consensus is and yesterday self-reverted a Bengali film name addition I made before Tito bhai alerted me. Evidently the example Surjit Singh Barnala is an example of where multiple indic names would be possible and therefore the existing guideline is appropriate and useful. But doesn't preclude infobox.

In contrast Thangal Uppapa is an example where only 2 indic names (Urdu and possibly Malayalam) would be natural, and Sillunu Oru Sandhippu is an example where only 1 indic name would be natural.

I would have thought there was a case for an exception e.g. "if there is only 1 clear relevant indic name, and the article has no infobox, then a maximum of 1 indic name, with preferably IPA or temporarily romanization, may be added in brackets. If there is any dispute or attempt to add a second name, then both should be removed". etc.

Does the guideline consensus extend to Nepal, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Pakistan? In ictu oculi (talk) 04:04, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

No. The consensus only applies to India. I have a vague recollection that the whole thing started with Tamil speaking villages in Kerala (or was it Malayalam speaking villages in Tamil Nadu?) or something like that. With Indian articles it is not always clear what language or languages apply and it does make sense to not have to deal with that in the lead. But, the scripts are in the info box (or you can add them in if not), so I don't really see this as a big problem. --regentspark (comment) 19:17, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Notifying once more

Hi all! This is a re-notification that the article Tripura is a current featured article candidate. All comments, criticism, suggestion are greatly welcome. Thanks,--Dwaipayan (talk) 15:17, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Indian Major English Newspapers Search

For a long time now, I have been facing trouble to find Indian newspaper articles in news.google.com. I have just created this specially customized search page. Tests not done still! --Tito Dutta (contact) 15:45, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

I like it. Please add it to the project page. — Ganeshk (talk) 16:44, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

How to add more newspaper. I am interested in adding The Tribune--Vigyani_talk 16:48, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Tribune was already added. --Tito Dutta (contact) 16:56, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Please add Orissa Post] which has a wide coverage of news from Odisha. Though it is a recent launch, I prefer it over TOI and The Telegraph. Amartyabag 17:00, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Orissa Post added! --Tito Dutta (contact) 17:18, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Added this to the tools section in Misplaced Pages:WikiProject India.--Dwaipayan (talk) 20:25, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Super useful Tito - thanks! --regentspark (comment) 19:18, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Yay. Another reason to give Tito a t-shirt! - Sitush (talk) 17:25, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

• Made some minor changes in the URL, removed spaces from it. so that direct URL of every search pages can be given easily (Misplaced Pages does not recognize space in URL). Updating the here. Though the previous URL should automatically redirect to new URL too! --Tito Dutta (contact) 11:29, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

It would be of great help to me. Thanks. - Chandan Guha (talk) 14:47, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Source warning

I have no idea if Pearson Education India is connected to Routledge but this, published in 2007, is a direct copy of this, which was originally published in 1995. I've often had doubts about PEI stuff but this is the first time I have found clear evidence of apparent copyright violation (I've never had time to dig into it but various passages in various books "rang bells" and I just happened on this example). We need perhaps to be careful. - Sitush (talk) 17:21, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Anyone else got email from Kegsapter on biased Wikipedians?

I have got an email accusing few editors of Misplaced Pages and how Misplaced Pages is biased towards India. The email contained a link of a Google Group. I have a doubt he has sent emails to other Indian Wikipedians too! Anyone else got such email? User:Jalexander is handling it! --Tito Dutta (contact) 16:49, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

See here. - Sitush (talk) 18:09, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

RFC on Nautrality at Narendra Modi

Asking about whether the article on the prominent and controversial Indian Hindu nationalist politican Narendra is currently neutral.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 21:41, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

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