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Hello Viriditas

As your time may permit, please look at this thread on Anna's talk page. She is rightfully confused about the way things developed and I think she would appreciate hearing any thoughts you are willing to share.--My76Strat (talk) 01:21, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

I think one of the reasons I like Anna so much is that she reminds me of myself. In that case, you will need to use reverse psychology on her. :) Viriditas (talk) 01:34, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
I am, I'm reversing it to you. Just kidding! I do think you and her have a lot in common. Seat this sites top 10 female editors at the same table and you will see Anna and eight others. You might even see me if I'm lucky enough to serve as your waiter. --My76Strat (talk) 01:49, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Sounds like fun! One thing I know about Anna is that she hates to be pressured. Viriditas (talk) 01:53, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
I don't think Anna is capable of hate. I rather believe that she lovingly holds a mature spirit of independence; kind of like you, again.--My76Strat (talk) 10:23, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Arbitration request

I'm sorry to hear about all that you have been through the past week, but I unfortuantely have a request that will take you back into primate-dominance-hierarchy territory. I've been asked by Captain Occam, an indefinitely blocked user, to initiate an arbitration request against Mathsci with regard to the latter's ownership of articles. The request in question was made via private message at Wikipediocracy (yes, I know...) and also affects many other members of that site who were banned from here due to incivility. I know that Captain Occam is not by any means a saint (having used the sockpuppet of Ferahgo the Assassin to further edit-warring) but I believe that such an arbitration request may be a once-in-a-decade chance to change Misplaced Pages governance.

All I am asking for is your ability to initiate the arbitration request, and help me communicate the statements of Captain Occam and other concerned users to ArbCom. I hope I'm not asking too much, especially in light of your recent circumstances. After this, I hope that we can go back to being normal content-contributors, as we always have been. Wer900talk 01:21, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

I'm not familiar with the case, but it may violate the spirit of WP:EVADE. Has the user appealed to WP:BASC? If so, what was the outcome? Arbcom won't really help here. Misplaced Pages governance and ownership of articles seem to be two unrelated things. Does Captain Occam want to come back as a Misplaced Pages editor, or is about pursuing remedies against Mathsci? There's too many things going on here. Viriditas (talk) 02:02, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
ArbCom has considered a fuller review into the conduct of Mathsci, stating that they would do so upon the filing of a full case against him. Regarding WP:EVADE, I've sent an email to ArbCom regarding whether or not you or I could take up the case, with all of the details that are certain so far (except for potential parties to the case, as that is to be decided later). For future reference, the case in question is the race and intelligence review. Regarding Misplaced Pages governance, it would be a small step. Wer900talk 02:35, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
Well, you should have asked me before sending that email. I'm definitely not interested in opening this case, and until six months have elapsed from the time of his block, Captain Occam won't be able to appeal his ban. I'm still not clear on what the problem is with Mathsci here. Viriditas (talk) 02:40, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
Don't worry, you were not specifically mentioned in the email at all. Apparently Mathsci has taken ownership of articles related to Poland. With regard to the six-month minimum before ban appeals, I think that the case would be most likely be taken now rather than later, and therefore it is a matter of extreme urgency and we cannot wait for Captain Occam's unbanning. The case isn't just about CO, but about others as well.

EDIT: I recieved an AN/I notice from Mathsci, presumably dealing with the topic at hand. I hope that it goes well... I'll need your support for that, at least. Wer900talk 03:13, 22 May 2013 (UTC)