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Thank you for the information. Understand the comments and agree with the suggestion. Uptodateinfo

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I have once again put the {{Hangon}} Template on the article, but I'm quite unsure why this article would be moved to deletion. It doesn't seem to have vandalized the copyrighted content, and also doesn't seem to have plagiarized someone's work. I can see what you are talking about, but I think that this article shouldn't be deleted. Otherwise, I will improve this article to Misplaced Pages's standard. But thanks for your notice.

Please contact me if you have any concerns.

Besides I'm only a Wikipedian for less than 6 months so I'm quite inexperienced. However the quality and standard of my articles will improve. Challisrussia (talk)

Village with offensive name

Just looked at your referral for Kotak, a village with an allegedly offensive name. The offensive word would be kotok (which is offensive slang for penis in at least Kyrgyz. However, Kotak should be ok -- it also appears on google maps for roughly the same location shown in the article -- Google Map of Kotak. Thanks for checking up on it, though! ~~

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Binkernet would no doubt have been more than happy for me to have been unaware of the changes in that page; Thank you for the heads up. A REDDSON

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Re: Slutdrop

Thanks. I felt I couldn't be objective on the matter or I would have debated it. PraetorianFury (talk) 16:55, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Ashkenazi Jews

		The Third Opinion Award
		Even though it was a hard to solve dispute (especially because one of the sides didn't turn up), and it was obvious that a volunteer editor can't solve the case, you still took it upon yourself to try and help and gave good advice about what should be done in the future about the problem! 90.196.60.197 (talk) 10:42, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 12:47, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

dispute resolution

Thank you and could you add user, ‎Legacypac , to the list of opposing editors. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sigiheri (talk • contribs) 18:29, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Dispute resolution

I missed a dispute resolution discussion due to being busy and having limits to my time for this kind of thing. A request for comment would have been appropriate for covering this. The user has been pushing to swap two photos for another two in a photobox with a long-standing consensus from years ago (in which our main consensus was to represent a range of different professions). One of the choices they want to insert has a lot of support, but the other one does not. And the two that they are choosing to remove (arbitrarily) don't have any support for removing them. There's no edit-war involved in keeping the old version until there is consensus for who we will remove (that is, for the one of his two choices that does have support). Avaya1 (talk) 20:55, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

There is no requirement that one must participate in dispute resolution, so no harm done if that is your concern. If the dispute continues, an RFC can still be filed. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 12:59, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Narendra Modi

This is to request you to direct your attention to Narendra Modi. The edit i gave has been removed from the main article. I have given the entire edit as well as some other material in the talk page of the article and seek your advice. Soham321 (talk) 19:20, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

I cannot see that Drmies has edited the article since the DRN listing was closed (and has only edited the article talk page once, and that in a different context), so I'm afraid that I can't be of much help. However, I do note that you have commented at the article talk page, "It is for the WP admins to decide now whether they wish to include the edit in the main article." as well as another statement of similar effect. I'm afraid that will never happen, since admins have absolutely no authority to decide content matters at Misplaced Pages (except in the case of content which specifically violates policy, such as unsourced negative material about a living person and copyright violations). Indeed, there is no authority who does. All content decisions are made by the community. And also understand that anything done at DRN was no more than an attempt to facilitate those discussions; if you believe that filing your case at DRN was "taking it to administrators" I'm afraid that you are mistaken in that as well. DRN is not an administrator's noticeboard and, indeed, most of the folks who work there as volunteers — including me — are not administrators. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 20:27, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

I was under the impression that if the system is being gamed i.e. if inaccurate or incomplete information is being forcefully put into the WP:BLP because a large number of people with vested interests and possibly poor knowledge are not allowing a balanced WP article to emerge then the WP admins can step in and then the consensus will not be of the users/posters, but will be of the WP admins. This is in accordance with what Misplaced Pages had done to Church of S. Soham321 (talk) 20:32, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

I'm afraid that's not what happened at Scientology. Any Misplaced Pages editor was, and is still, free to edit that article. There was a time that there was a limitation on editing it by editors who did not edit Misplaced Pages except to edit Scientology-related articles (either pro- or con-), but even that limitation has now passed. Editors who exhibit an ongoing POV or edit in a disruptive manner can be blocked or banned, but that's a matter of conduct, not content, to be taken up by administrators and generally requires extensive proof and discussion; the Scientology case took months to resolve. You're trying to ask administrators to jump past all of that and get directly involved in content and that's not going to happen. I see from the talk page that you're working with regentspark, an old Wiki-friend of mine. Let me strongly recommend that you listen to him and trust him. He came up through the dispute resolution ranks and really knows what's best on Misplaced Pages. You'll get a fair shake from him. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 20:58, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Ok. Many thanks for your advice which i will follow. Incidentally, i have apologized to both Drmies and Nick on their talk pages for being over passionate about this. Soham321 (talk) 02:07, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Wicnic

Hello TransporterMan, I live in the DFW area and would be interested in attending the Wicnic! —Prhartcom (talk) 22:26, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

I'll let you know, but unless several other folks jump in today then I'm going to bail on the picnic idea. Perhaps we could get a meetup together then or at some other time, however. (Without the participation I'm just not up for going to the trouble to arrange a picnic spot, but meeting up entirely informally at a restaurant or bar is a different issue, and one other editor also expressed interest at the meetup talk page.) Best regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 15:43, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Absolutely practical and democratic, just the way we always do things around Misplaced Pages. It's all good. Meetup sounds great if we get 3. Thanks TransporterMan. —Prhartcom (talk) 00:01, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

I've pulled the plug on the Wicnic idea. Let me see how things are going next month and perhaps I'll propose just a walk-in meetup for the three of us and perhaps a couple of other folks I know who are from the Metroplex. Best regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 13:05, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

BTW, the other editor who expressed interest was GreenReaper. — TransporterMan (TALK) 13:09, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

You guys should join the AFM furmeets! Fun, sun, and ~100 furries every second Sunday of the month from 11AM in S. J. Stovall park in Arlington. GreenReaper (talk) 15:07, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Add 1 for the DFW idea. I do a meetup in the area for a special interest that I'm big into, so I know a wide variety of options. Obviously weekends are better than weekdays. Hasteur (talk) 13:15, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

I just told another person that we may be doing this, so perhaps the meetup idea will pick up some steam. By the way, just in case anyone worries about this like I do, if we do this no one will be pressured to reveal their real world identity. If you just want to use your username or a nickname to identify yourself, you'll be free to do so. Best regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 21:49, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Actually, it really makes a lot more sense to activate the Texas Wiknic for June 22 or so. There is a big raft of publicity that we have yet to unleash, that will be released nationally for the Wiknic, but not for later meetups.--Pharos (talk) 23:49, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

DRN: case ID

I noticed this edit. I'm curious why you thought 708 was wrong. This was the bot's original edit adding the case ID. I'm sure it's not important - the next case was given 710 so there's no duplicates - so I won't bother changing it back even if I am right. Just wondering. CarrieVS (talk) 15:25, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Hey, Carrie, your guess is as good as mine. If you think 708 is right, change it back, that was just a guess. It was listed as 709 when I arrived this morning, then I changed it to 708, which I, too, thought was the original assignment, as you say, then I changed it again because I thought — for reasons that escape me now — someone had puzzled it out to be be right at 709. I'm clueless and befuddled. Best regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 15:39, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

I think I've got it. Nbound, who's new to volunteering and hadn't done this before, deleted the case ID when closing the case. Then Earwigbot added a brand new ID. I'll drop Nbound a line about not removing the ID, but I shan't bother changing it (if you'd rather have the original one, by all means do it). We'll have a gap in the numbers either way. CarrieVS (talk) 15:48, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

RfC at Talk:Islamism

There's a RfC at Talk:Islamism#Unexplained_deletions you may be interested in --BoogaLouie (talk) 19:37, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

smileguy91 23:33, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you so much for my award. I look forward to working more on Misplaced Pages for years to come. Thanks again, TheOneSean 18:49, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for taking the time

You came to provide a third opinion on the ECCO page and did so with helpful, thorough clarity. This is thank you for taking the time, from a young editor to a veteran. Chrisg77 (talk) 10:16, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

following you around, opposing you at every turn

How receptive would you be of the views of someone who was obviously following you around, opposing you at every turn, TransporterMan? Please, if you must follow me around, try to constrain yourself to stay out of sight whenever possible. Having been stalked IRL, I find it very unpleasant when it apparently happens online. Thanks for your consideration. Since I have noticed several instances of poor reading comprehension, let me state explicitly: that's not an accusation of stalking or violating policy. --Elvey (talk) 03:10, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

I'm not following you around. I work regularly at, and always keep watchlisted, WP:3O, WP:DRN, WP:MEDCOM, and WP:EAR and have not been involved with you except when you've turned up in one of those venues. You did so at 3O, which resulted in the SPI report, and then at EAR which resulted in my comment there. If you edit in those places — or anywhere else where I regularly edit — whatever you say or do is fair game, but rest assured that I'm not going out of my way to look for you or your edits, either there or elsewhere. — TransporterMan (TALK) 05:01, 5 June 2013 (UTC) PS: I forgot about the Village Pump. That's not a place where I regularly edit, but I responded there not because I followed you there but instead because of this notice which was left on the 3O talk page, which I do watch. Again, I'm not following you around and I commented on your proposal there only because it was related to a subject and venue which I care very much about. It had nothing to do with you, but only the topic you were dealing with. — TM 05:15, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Wow! Ok. It sure felt creepy, as you opposed me in so many places that seemed unrelated. I retract. On the plus side, maybe now you'll finally understand that I really was just trying to ensure I received a neutral 3O, after reading this and you'll see that it wasn't to avoid scrutiny.

• • Here's a situation where the weak anonymity is a more serious problem: It's common for one person involved in a 2-person dispute to follow the edits of the other. If one of them thereby notices the other requested a 3O, that person could ask an ally or meatpuppet (or even use a sockpuppet) to respond to the 3O. Such a biased (but masquerading as neutral) 3O goes a long way to supporting a determined POV editor. --Elvey (talk) 17:53, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

If you believe that someone has responded to a Misplaced Pages:Third opinion request, report it at WP:ANI. — Guy Macon — (continues after insertion below)

Oddly, you just told me to report every 3O response I see at ANI. By "someone", I guess you mean someone who might be a solicited ally or puppet of the provider of the first or second opinion. Your suggestion won't work. Inhibiting such persons' 3Os is feasible, while reporting remotely suspicious 3Os to ANI isn't and isn't even allowed, for good reason - admins and checkusers can do only so much, plus ANI says "To report suspected sockpuppetry, see sockpuppet investigations." The point of my VP proposal is inhibiting such 3Os. It should continue to be discussed at the pump, not here. --Elvey (talk) 05:45, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

To clarify: TransporterMan, I mentioned the proposal here, to you, because it's become clear to me from your recent comments on my VP proposal that, back in March, you didn't fully understand what the security problem that could only be addressed with the use of a secondary account was. It seems you thought I was concerned about the actions of regulars on the 3O team, such as yourself. Do you see now it's the impact of the irregular 3O suppliers that did and does concern me. Do you understand now, given that and the above? --Elvey (talk) 05:45, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Guy Macon's criticism and instruction

Don't just imply things on random talk pages. — Guy Macon — (continues after insertion below)

I hear you saying I should have posted to ANI instead of here. Posting here and getting such a helpful response from TransporterMan resolved the problem quickly - far more quickly and easily, with far less admin time used up than posting to ANI would have! And yet you're telling me I did it wrong. I tried hard to explain the problem in a calm, collegial way, and the quick, successful resolution his helpful response helped produce suggests I didn't do such a bad job. --Elvey (talk) 05:45, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

As for "following you around", Misplaced Pages:Harassment#Wikihounding explains when it is and is not appropriate to track other users' edits. Again, WP:ANI is the correct place to report that, not here. — Guy Macon — (continues after insertion below)

I'm aware of that page re. feeling followed around; what part of "that's not an accusation of stalking or violating policy" you don't understand, I don't know. Irony of ironies, that statement of mine is preceded by "Since I have noticed several instances of poor reading comprehension, let me state explicitly:". And still you manage to misinterpret me. Here you are, following me around and attacking me, again, for something you had to misinterpret in order to see as improper. Oh, and look - ANI even says, "Before posting a grievance about a user here, please discuss the issue with them on their user talk page." And yet, for doing exactly that, you accuse me of "imply things on random talk pages". So perhaps you gave me bad information when you said WP:ANI was the correct place to report my problem, not here. It's academic at this point, but if you still think I should have posted to ANI re. feeling followed around, I wonder precisely what text you think I should have posted.--Elvey (talk) 05:45, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

You might want to consider doing better at following Misplaced Pages policies and guidelines, thus giving other editors less reason to monitor your activity. --Guy Macon (talk) 08:55, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. Ditto. I will do my best. I hope we can end the discussion here. You've provided input, criticism and instruction, and I've heard you. I'd like get back to building an encyclopedia; enough already. --Elvey (talk) 05:45, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Email sent

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Talk:William Hickey (columnist)

I asked a question of you over there. It may just be me being incredibly stupid, but I'd be grateful for a reply. Thanks. Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:09, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

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	Thanks! & Cheers, Keep up the good work ! ThinkingYouth (talk) 07:34, 7 June 2013 (UTC)