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SVG kits
I'm trying to get a kit in the club info box to work with svg files. It works when using Template:Football kit, but I can't get it to work on this template. Help?! Martin Le Roy (talk) 20:18, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
Most appearances
We have a 'Top goalscorer' parameter, why not a 'Most appearances' as well? Makes sense to have both. GiantSnowman 12:45, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
- Think you'll find we haven't... cheers, Struway2 (talk) 13:05, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
- We did, see #Most caps, why/when was it removed? I'm positive I raised this at FOOTY sometime last year and it was still present... GiantSnowman 13:18, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
- See #MLS specific parameters? It was one of those added as a pragmatic measure and removed once the need disappeared. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 13:27, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
- How on earth is 'topscorer' MLS specific? GiantSnowman 13:34, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
- It isn't. But there was never a consensus for adding a topscorer parameter, or anything else with feature-creep potential, apart from in that specific MLS-related situation. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 13:41, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
- They're hardly obscure stats to ref and are those kind of records are often covered in reliable sources. GiantSnowman 13:46, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
- It isn't. But there was never a consensus for adding a topscorer parameter, or anything else with feature-creep potential, apart from in that specific MLS-related situation. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 13:41, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
- How on earth is 'topscorer' MLS specific? GiantSnowman 13:34, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
- See #MLS specific parameters? It was one of those added as a pragmatic measure and removed once the need disappeared. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 13:27, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
- We did, see #Most caps, why/when was it removed? I'm positive I raised this at FOOTY sometime last year and it was still present... GiantSnowman 13:18, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
The infobox isn't an appropriate place for club records. Number 57 16:28, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
- Why not? These are key records; after all, we're not talking about 'highest attendance' or whatever. GiantSnowman 16:29, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
- Why is top goalscorer more important than record attendance? Personally I'm more interested in the latter. Number 57 16:49, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
- The former is covered more than the latter, and I believe readers will find it more useful. I mean we have it for international teams, why not clubs? GiantSnowman 17:49, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
- The first two statements sound a bit like original research - who are we to say what readers will find more useful. All the statistical yearbooks I have cover both. But I digress. I do not see the need for any information on club records in infoboxes - they need to be short and sweet, not getting bogged down in detail. International teams infoboxes are a totally different beast to club ones, so what they contain is immaterial. Number 57 17:57, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
- Let me re-word - I find it more useful ;) GiantSnowman 18:14, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
- The first two statements sound a bit like original research - who are we to say what readers will find more useful. All the statistical yearbooks I have cover both. But I digress. I do not see the need for any information on club records in infoboxes - they need to be short and sweet, not getting bogged down in detail. International teams infoboxes are a totally different beast to club ones, so what they contain is immaterial. Number 57 17:57, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
- The former is covered more than the latter, and I believe readers will find it more useful. I mean we have it for international teams, why not clubs? GiantSnowman 17:49, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
- Why is top goalscorer more important than record attendance? Personally I'm more interested in the latter. Number 57 16:49, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
Please update
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Please sync from the sandbox, where I have made a number of improvements:
- Improved hCard microformat metadata
- Split ground/ stadium capacity into its own field; simplified code
- Added a ground coordinates parameter
- added whitespace to the code, to improve readability.
-- Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:35, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- Have these changes been discussed anywhere? Number 57 08:40, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- Yes. We've been discussing and adding microformats and coordinates to infoboxes like this since 2007. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:11, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry, I meant amongst WikiProject Football. Number 57 20:28, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- No. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:36, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- I think it would be wise to at least notify the project of these proposed changes, as they will affect thousands of articles. I will do so now. Number 57 17:46, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- No. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:36, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry, I meant amongst WikiProject Football. Number 57 20:28, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
- Yes. We've been discussing and adding microformats and coordinates to infoboxes like this since 2007. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:11, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
This will also resolve the issue detailed at #club using different home ground, above (in 2010!), allowing the use of {{Plainlist}} in such cases. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:47, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- I have no idea what #1 means; #2 and #3 make absolute sense; and #4 needs further clarification. GiantSnowman 21:09, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
- #1 has link for your convenience, but basically, better HTML classes to "label" the data in the infobox. #4 - I simply spaced it the code in the template to make it easier for people editing it; no difference to readers, nor editors using the template in an article. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:20, 20 August 2013 (UTC)