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Moby Dick

See this application for arbitration against Moby Dick. --Tony Sidaway 15:09, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

User:Cool Cat/In many languages...

Thank you for the German, Hungarian, Lithuanian translations --Cat out 15:32, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Hey, no problems. I speak German, and the Hungarian and Lithuanian versions I checked with friends. I'll update once I can guarantee what it is in other languages too! Jared Preston 15:37, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Impresive. Can you also add a litteral translation back to english? --Cat out 15:57, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

As far as I'm aware, they all mean "cool". At least the German certainly does! *lol* I have another for you to add (I'm not too sure on how you want it all formatted so I'll leave it here at your disposal) and that's Czech: Hustá kočka. That also literally means "cool cat", but hustá, hustý also means "dense". Hustota is Czech for "density". Jared Preston 20:07, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

PS: In Slovak I've been told that "cool cat" is "cool mačka", they don't appear to have their own word for cool... Jared Preston 20:10, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Many languages dont have an equavalent to "cool", so we need aproximations ;). --Cat out 20:28, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

You'll have to make do with what you've got :-P but I can help you with the Russian – the adjective "крутой" means "sharp" ;-) Jared Preston 20:37, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

I've added a literal meaning in Russian. The word крутой has several meanings (see ), but I assume the third one is most appropriate for "cool" (though I'm no linguist). Conscious 12:31, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Cheap tactics revelaed

You may want to read some of the cheap tactics confessed by Fadix and THOTH  :) 24.211.192.250 18:04, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi, What am I supposed to be looking for? Can you clarify what you mean by "cheap tactics"? --Cat out 20:25, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

THOTH speaking to Fadix: "... However, in times past, I have refused to make certain posts (that you scripted for me - etc) under different usernames to support your positions as you requested of me - and I have this documented...as well as other similar things... I am sorry that this has made you upset - that I have not proven as mallable as you wished - though I have cooperated on some things - haven't I? (nothing deceptive however - as I don't go for all of this silly personal intrigue). Shall I go on or shall I just introduce this evidence into your proceedings?"

Fadix speaking to THOTH: "...You're being childishtic, two times I have been requesting things involving the creation of usernames, recent one was implying what I needed a Turk to do(that part was an indirect request to that other person, as far as I know you don't know Turkish), and you know what happened, a Turk offered to help me(and I hope you are respectful enought to keep that persons identity private). Two Wikipedian members are aware of the situation and know why I did that, and another veteran, also administrator El_C who I said about the email I recieved during the period was warned by me about the situation which I considered premedited. I needed to know who was doing that and the only way for me to know was a Turk registering and supporting me so that the responsable email that person and so I accumulate that evidence(implicated with Tommiks cases) during the RfAr I was planing at that time forcing the responsable to come clean privatly(I know it wasn't clean, I admit) by email and retreaving that evidence. But I forgot to say that Turk to have a valid email and that person didn't had much time so I didn't wanted to bother that person(if you visit that registered users talkpage(the one you were witness of what I requested that person to say), you will read my past request about having a valid email) so I settled for a checkuser for that time being, which was refused. Either way, that person was really a Turk and was really supporting me, while this was durty, you can't use this, since it isen't against any policies or guidelines, and I admit that it was also motivated by the need of gaining some support against later, the IP unregistered users. " 24.211.192.250 20:47, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Thats a copy of the msg posted on the page you linked. What part of it is "cheep tactic"? I just don't want to jump to conclusions as both sides (Fadix THOTH) are ranting on... --Cat out 20:54, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, I'm not sure what you consider appropriate. But Fadix requesting THOTH to create different usernames, and asking to post messages scripted by himself under these 'fake' usernames does not sound normal to me.

Similarly, Fadix trying to find a Turkish speaking user to manipulate the talk page is not innocent. Anyway, this is FYI only. I'm not planning to pursue anything out of this. Best 24.211.192.250 21:03, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for letting me know. --Cat out 21:23, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Category:Kurdish inhabited regions (again)

Hey, I'd like to notify you that the category will probably be kept per perhaps some politicaly motivated keep votes unlike Category:Hispanic inhabited regions which will be deleted. --Cat out 13:17, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm not surprised that the discrepancy happened. Just shows that logic is lacking somewhere...  ;-) CovenantD 20:32, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Indeed. Now what should we do with the category? Since it is very hard to get anything related to the kurds deleted... --Cat out 20:41, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, if the objection is that it's vague, then it needs to be refined somehow, although in this case that means the cat name has to be longer. BTW, you can just leave responses here. I'll check. No sense in having the exact same messages in two places. CovenantD 20:50, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

As you wish. :)

People voted delete to a category that had solid basis from a census (Hispanic one). As per that the category with no census to back it up should be speedied... I do not see a reasonable way to refine the category... It will be pov no matter what we try.

--Cat out 20:58, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

You probably know more about the ins and outs of Wikipolicy than I do. From the feelings and politics involved, I don't see getting consensus to delete. The best I see happening is a rename to something less vague. Kurdish inhabited regions based on a CIA map? I don't know... CovenantD 21:04, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Posible, perhaps: Category:Kurdish inhabited regions based on the map by the Centeral Intelligence Agency. Ah... the rant...

Politics should not determine what is wikipedia worthy, wikipedia is not a soapbox (WP:NOT policy) for that. However you do have a point.

It was fairly easy to get Syrian Kurdistan deleted (though I was not involved in any way). Turkish Kurdistan however is there.

These articles and categories in my view fall under Misplaced Pages:Content forking, however I do not consider myself to be the most objective person in treating articles related to Kurdistan etc... I'd like you to have a read of it if you have the time.

--Cat out 21:21, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

I can't promise I'll get to them today, but I will put them on the short list. CovenantD 21:30, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I want to ask some advice. Category:Hispanic inhabited regions was deleted with ease for being vauge even though a solid census provided data regarding Hispanic inhabitance. However Category:Kurdish inhabited regions survived two cfd's with no concensus even though it is much more vauge than the Hispanic counterpart as there isn't even a census to back up Kurdish inhabitance.

I feel some of the keep votes are politicaly motivated. How should I deal with this? --Cat out 11:06, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Since it is more or less clear that the category is going to stay, it may be a good idea to ensure that it contains what it should contain. There's at least one piece of reliable information. Conscious 11:43, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

I feel the category is being nothing but a pov fork... But that aside, how should I use the map? Tag everything inside the border as kurdish inhabited? Should Kurdish inhabited regions be a sub cat of Kurdistan? I really need guidance. --Cat out 14:48, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

What you say sounds like a good idea to me... As for pov fork, I don't know. IMO "Kurdish inhabited regions" is a better category label for, say, Şırnak Province than "Kurdistan". It sounds more factual. Conscious 14:55, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

I am still unconfortable in declaring a place kurdish inhabited w/o census data... --Cat out 15:06, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Kurdish blogs

I was wondering what you intended with this article. We have a an article for Blog... --Cat out 22:24, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

cp. Iranian blogs --Jpbrenna 22:54, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

I'd prefer a reasoning. From my perspective both articles do not cover anything blog doesnt, both happen to be for link spam, and both can be argued to be pov forks...

It would really help if I knew what they were for. Are they about the bloggs or people getting 'opressed'

--Cat out 23:16, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

They are about blogging in specific communities, like Canadian blogosphere and other articles on Misplaced Pages. It's true, the Kurdish and Iranian articles as they stand now are about one-half link repository; this should be corrected by destubbing the articles, not eliminating them. Article blog is not community-specific. We have articles separate from Education concerning Education in the United States and Education in France; I don't see how either of them are "POV forks," and I don't see how these blog articles are either. --Jpbrenna 01:50, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

I wasnt going to prpose them for deletion. I just felt they needed some attention, which you agree.

I am concerned about statemens such as "Blogging in Iran operates under special circumstances as the Iranian government tends to discourage self-expression" (weasle words, who says so) or "This is something they have not always been able to do via other media" (there were kurdish websites and Kurdish tv networks). Statements such as those imply "pov forking". Of course the intention wasnt that but it appears that way.

Also I recomend a categorisation for all the "blog" related articles.

--Cat out 10:58, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

need your help

Hi, I am a new user who found your page by just clicking through links and ended up at Prodego's page. I only know a very little about editing and stuff. Could you tell me where I can learn to write wiki markup and find all the stuff that I need to learn while being here, if there is such a place? Thanks. Twasmetrec 21:44, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

I'll gladly try to help. But perhaps it is best to keep this as a Q&A --Cat out 23:56, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Wiki-sick?

"Now who will we go to when we are wiki-sick?"

What about those who are feeling wiki-sick because fo the positions of Doc and his friends, especially Tony Sidaway and Cyde? Jay Maynard 02:22, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Fair use debate regarding television screencaps

Currently, there is a debate on Talk:List of Lost episodes regarding whether or not use of a 1/30th stillframe visual excerpt next to a list of audiovisual works (such as List of Lost episodes or List of Star Trek: Enterprise episodes) is in accordance with WP:Fair use, and has even resulted in the protection of the page.

If you have any opinions regarding fair use on the List of Lost episodes page, please feel free to express them as I believe these two pages are sister projects.

Cws125 05:35, 6 June 2006 (UTC)