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Collaboration (keep it here)

Hi Januarythe18th,

Though I believe collaboration is the best way forward, I have struggled to see much hope that you are willing to work with other editors or respect consensus. Accordingly I have posted some comments in support of the view that you are the same editor who operated a number of previously banned accounts. Regards Danh108 (talk) 07:42, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

The problem with your comment and use of the term "collaboration" is that it is euphemistic and contradictory to your actions. You have no interest in collaboration and you show or discuss the changes you want.

I have raise the issue of "collaboration" and development via a sandbox version many times with you. You have ignored it.

I even made one for you. You ignored it.

I asked you which references you felt were inaccurate. You ignore me.

Therefore, as you work with another member of the Brahma Kumari meatpuppet team putting in an accusation to try and remove me, who is "collaborating" and who is not?

You use Misplaced Pages terms but you have no experience, and have shown no other interest or commitment to developing the Misplaced Pages. --Januarythe18th (talk) 15:11, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

If you want me to listen to you or take you seriously, please provide some evidence for your accusations. At present, the accusations are as endless as they are empty. The editors on the page were prepared to overlook the fact that you are breaking all the rules and have many previous banned accounts....all you had to do was be a little bit humble and work with others.

I still think you are very a nice fellow, and you do remind me of my brother. I don't begrudge you for disliking/hating the BK's. It is clear you have your reasons for this. Regards Danh108 (talk) 19:05, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Evidence? How many times have I raised the issue of developing a sandbox version. You've just ignored it again.

Why won't you just show us what you want?

We've never met and you don't know me. You've got a tendency to keep drumming on what you want to be true. I tend to think you have a limited and negative understanding of what I think but, increasingly, you're being misleading in your use of language.

As evidence of your good faith, let's discuss this Sandbox option here and now and what you see as being factually incorrect.

(And please don't move this conversation around). --Januarythe18th (talk) 00:29, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Actually, it was you who moved the conversation. It started on your talk page. But I don't mind. While it's true that I would not know it if I passed you in the street, definitely I know you. I know you value open-ness and honesty. I know you won't 'stay silent' if other people aren't living up to these values, I know that me moving this conversation back to your page will have irked you a little because you have a bit of a control thing going on. Through Wiki, we come to know each other. Plus if you still believe in reincarnation, that opens a whole other realm of potentials.

Anyways, congrat's regarding the sock report - your current incarnation lives on. The sandbox situation is the same - I will take Vecrumba's lead, not yours. Best wishes Danh108 (talk) 22:03, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Be careful Dan, using edit summaries as you did blanking here is disrespectful and considered bad form, see WP:NPA#WHATIS. That's an insult. I have no idea how you could have picked up such bad habits so quickly. Where did you learn them?

Dan, I held my hand out out many times now and shown a way forward out of good faith. You've made numerous personal attacks upon me know. Don't come back and accuse me of not discussing nor being willing to collaborate. --Januarythe18th (talk) 23:29, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi John Doe, I appreciate the feedback. My view is that there is a difference between an actual insult and someone taking offense. However in both instances, it is not my intention to upset you.

Please do note that just because I think you're a good fellow doesn't mean I won't tell you when I think you are just repeating yourself or talking rubbish. I would be grateful if you could do the same for me. I feel this kind of open discussion is part of a robust community. You don't hear my whinging to you about the way you use my affiliation as an ad hominem means of dismissing and discrediting my views, which actually is a personal attack. I would request you to show even one time I have actually attacked you. At my work they say "don't be so precious". RegardsDanh108 (talk) 22:30, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

The conversation started here, please leave it here. That's the way things are done. I've asked you reasonably, a number of times, to stop moving it about, doing so is starting to appear like just yet another provocation, especially when it is discussion entitled collaboration which you are ignoring.

Suggesting you develop a sandbox version of the topic in question, or follow any of the other hints you are ignoring, is not "rubbish" nor out of place for a new editor.

Perhaps if you should consider engaging more with the Wikipedian community as a whole, and on unrelated topics when you do not have an emotional attachment? Learn more through experience and earn some gratitude and respect from others by donating your time and energy and being helpful. --Januarythe18th (talk) 00:59, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Dear John Doe, glad to see you've settled down a little in this post. The conversation started on your talk page, not mine - please look. One man's treasure is another man's trash - particularly when repeated 10 times. I agree with your last point though, and will contemporaneously explore some other hobbies on Wiki. Wishing you a good weekend my friend. Sorry if I'm twisting your nickers a little. Danh108 (talk) 04:38, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Regards Danh108 (talk) 04:38, 7 September 2013 (UTC)