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Hi! I'm serving as the wikipedian-in-residence at the Smithsonian Institution Archives until June! One of my goals as resident, is to work with Wikipedians and staff to improve content on Misplaced Pages about people who have collections held in the Archives - most of these are scientists who held roles within the Smithsonian and/or federal government. I thought you might like to participate since you are interested in the sciences! Sign up to participate here and dive into articles needing expansion and creation on our to-do list. Feel free to make a request for images or materials at the request page, and of course, if you share your successes at the outcomes page you will receive the SIA barnstar! Thanks for your interest, and I look forward to your participation! SarahStierch (talk) 03:55, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
Hello, Nick Thorne. You have new messages at Fry1989's talk page. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
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Please stop adding these talkback boxes, if you had read the notes at the top of my talk page you would have realised that I am watching your talk page at the moment. - Nick Thorne02:57, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for your feedback on the Rfc. Sorry if I am confused still - could you give an example of where WP:OR is occurring - or WP:Synth? I keep locating sources which are explicit, WP:V which make explicit claims or make specific points. I have been over the policies repeatedly. Guidance may be of use. If you have time to provide and example of how to rewrite one section of the Rfc in an acceptable format It may be of help. I am presently working on content which addresses Rape Culture in India Sandbox oversight and advice would be appreciated. Media-Hound 'D 3rd P^) (talk) 00:23, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
As a matter of Wikiquette, it is best practice to keep discussions in one place (please see the notice at the top of my talk page). I will copy your post to the RFC and consider what answer I may have, if any, there. - Nick Thorne07:14, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
No worries, you've done great in the face of WP:COMPETENCY, or rather the lack of it (which I won't go into detail, per WP:DENY and to curtail hounding/stalking) from a certain quarter. Tea for you? Dave03:09, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
Tea it is then. And I think we should just ignore the contentious recapping, "we shouldn't fight with pigs, we all get dirty and they love it!" Cheers~! --Dave23:17, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
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Compare and Contrast the CONTENT of the two articles. One shows the HMS history in far greater detail, for example.
It is precisely BECAUSE they were BOTH in the SAME Class on build, that the inconsistent CONTENT is odd ...
Happy to hear you consider "There is no mismatch" Cheerio ! 121.127.210.34 (talk) 23:21, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
121.127.210.34 (talk) 23:22, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
Nick, please do not get me wrong, but I request that you delete your post to me from the ID page, and in that case please feel free to delete my response. Maybe we can move them to my talk page for example? There is no debating that the talk page is a busy one, but it has been like that for a while. I arrived at a moment when there were calls for detailed sourcing discussions and that has been my focus - but it requires discussion. So if we are to practice what we preach we should keep "ad hominem" stuff of it as much as possible and stick to things like policy, sources and reasoning, which I believe I am doing. If you think I'm not, please tell me by all means, but effectively your post is everything it complains about (wordy, ad hominem, not AGF etc).--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 05:24, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
With this edit, you have basically accused me of vandalism. That is clearly not the case. The edit was made in part of a effort to clarify aircraft carrier pages while also making them more consistent. This is currently being discussed on the aircraft carrier talk page - which you are well aware of as you have left a comment there yourself. The edit should stand until the issue of aircraft carrier definition has been resolved. Your edit summary was not only disingenuous, but insulting, and your revert was an abuse of your roll-back rights. - thewolfchild22:30, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
Your edits were only the last of a series of edits by different, mostly anonymous, editors that had corrupted the page. Your edit left the USN with the following numbers: Total 28, In Service 19, In Reserve 2, Decommissioned 56, Under Construction 4, Never Completed 12. The USN has only 10 carriers in service and in any case the total should be the sum of decommissioned, in reserve and in service - using your figures 56+2+19=28, if that is not nonsense I don't know what is. You had Canada with a total of 5 carriers, which is rubbish, Canada has only ever had 3 carriers - by long standing convention within Misplaced Pages and within naval circles generally WWII escort carriers are not included in carrier totals. So, although your edits were not responsible for all the nonsense, they were responsible for some of it. If you want to make complete changes in the focus of Misplaced Pages articles (by expanding thier scope beyond what the consensus currently holds) you should first go to the talk page and seek consensus. Finally, the reason I reverted all those edits (which included a number before you edited the page) was to restore it to a point where the numbers added up correctly and extraneous information was removed. You were not the only editor that had their edits reverted, but your edits did contribute to the nonsense. I did not insult you, I did not call the edits vandalism, I assumed that they were inserted in good faith, but they were nonsense nevertheless. Nonsense inserted in good faith is still nonsense. BTW, I did not use my roll-back rights, I used Twinkle. - Nick Thorne23:42, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
"My edit left...", again, that is misleading. I did not put those values in. All I did was A) change the number of USN active and under construction carriers and B) change the number of RCN carriers from 45(!) to 5. Your assertion that my edits were "nonsense" is absurd and insulting. Consensus could easily establish that amphib. assault ships and escort carrier are aircraft carriers, thereby making edits correct (and your edits "nonsense"). In the meantime, my edits are not incorrect, as the issue is currently being debated. Regardless of what tool you used, it was wrong and insulting. I'm just trying to improve these pages, if you don't agree with me, fine... you just don't have to be rude about it. I already asked if you would consider helping, but it seems you're not interested. - thewolfchild03:43, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
No, it was not misleading, your edit did indeed leave the numbers I quoted, consequently when you had finished the arithmetic was as I stated. That is part of the nonsense I was talking about. I reverted back before the ridiculous figures for Canada were posted (not by you) so that the article would be in a sensible state. If you want to argue the point about inclusion of LHAs, LHDs, escort carriers CAM ships or whatever, please feel free, but in the normal BRD cycle, you don't get to make the changes and have them stay during the discussion, the bold changes get reverted first, then we discuss. You complain about rudeness, but I think you should re-read your posts on the Aircraft Carrier talk page. The utterly dismissive and frankly offensive tone of your comments about the Thai carrier is just a start. You accuse me and others of being elitist and you stray onto [[WP:NPA}} territory in your comments. I have let it slide so far, but I now draw the line. Stick to commenting on the edits, not the editors. I am sure you have been involved in Misplaced Pages long enough to understand the implications of failing to do this.
BTW, I formally decline your invitation to assist you in your efforts to "improve" the articles because I do not agree that your "improvements" do, in fact, improve the articles concerned. Being collegiate does not mean just doing things your way. There is an established consensus in the carrier articles and you have so far failed to produce any convincing arguments why that consensus should be changed. Until and unless that consensus changes do not expect assistance from me to implement your changes which I oppose. - Nick Thorne04:26, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
Just to let you know that I'm also disengaging from further interactions with The Child. I'm content just avoiding him for the time being, but his clueless behavior has been occurring elsewhere, such as here. I'm considering filing at ANI, but I've been sick with a sinus infection, so it may take a while. He'll be back at ANI in the future soon enough,one way or another. - BilCat (talk) 06:17, 12 November 2013 (UTC)