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Lyman Ward Clergyman

Kafziel, thanks for moving the article into the encyclopedia. Unfortunately, I could not find it in a search. Does it take time to update or is there some other problem? I searched using lyman ward clergyman to no avail. I edited the header to distinguish the actor and the general.

Thanks for your kind thoughts and admonition to be bold. This is my first effort and I did not want to create a stub and theonesean's editorial critique helped me write a stronger article. Regarding the addition of categories. I wrote the article with a number of them based on the articles of other clergy I researched but I would appreciate any suggestions that I did not consider. Mainly, Ward is a clergyman but he was also a politician so perhaps I imagine that I can designate political categories because he was interesting as a liberal Republican. Thanks for your help, ~~Crawford Rose~~

Happy to help! I adjusted the "see also" that I think you were going for (I created a disambiguation page) and I'll take a look at the categories. Kafziel 19:14, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

4th Marine Expeditionary Brigade

Thank you, Marine, for taking the action that you did with the article. I have learned NEVER to submit articles to the AFC because they seem to stay there forever and molder. Perfectly good articles with citations and content are rejected routinely because someone (twit?) at AFC "just doesn't get it".

I didn't create the article, but the person who did asked for some help, so I pitched-in and reorganized the references and citations as well as some content. Now the article can live and breathe on its own merits. It still needs work, but possibly more people will work on it now that it isn't tied up in "limbo". I will "watch" the article for a while and see how it progresses; hopefully some Marine Wikipedian will take the ball and run with it...but if they don't, if this Coast Guardsman has the time, I will try to shape it up to B class standards.

Semper Fidelis and Semper Paratus;

Cuprum17,

CPO Edward W. Jones, USCGR (ret)
US Army Vietnam, 1966-1968
US Coast Guard Reserve, 1989-2007
Cuprum17 (talk) 19:57, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Good to meet you! Glad I could help. The AFC backlog is ridiculous, so I'm moving them into the article space to let them sink or swim. Crazy how many perfectly fine articles are just sitting there, forgotten. They've done a great job of fooling everyone into thinking they have some kind of authority, when it's really just another wikiproject. So some bureaucrats are less than pleased with me for ignoring all their procedural stuff, but I'm a firm believer that our first job should always be writing the encyclopedia. Damn the torpedoes. Kafziel 22:18, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

why did you delete this???!???

you deleted a page that i made for a local wrestler i'm a fan of

https://en.wikipedia.org/Manic%28wrestler%29

even after i posted a link to his facehook to prove he is a real person , why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wrestlingfan64 (talk • contribs) 21:28, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Being a real person isn't enough to justify a Misplaced Pages article. See our notability guidelines for more information on that. Most importantly, though, biographies of living people require reliable sources. Your article was tagged for deletion for more than 10 days with no reliable sources, so it was deleted (along with many others). It's nothing personal. Kafziel 21:44, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

i did?

i posted a link to his facebook to prove he was a real person , i looked up info on how to prove it's a real person and one option was link a facebook and i did that , and it was still deleted..

RE:

i did?

i posted a link to his facebook to prove he was a real person , i looked up info on how to prove it's a real person and one option was link a facebook and i did that , and it was still deleted.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wrestlingfan64 (talk • contribs) 06:04, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

All you have to do is click the links I provided above, to see what kind of sources are required. I can't force you to read them if you don't want to, but I will tell you right now, Facebook is not on the list. Anyone can make a Facebook page. Again - you don't just have to prove he exists, you have to prove he's important. Kafziel 12:25, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

TestAuditor

Hi I see you have deleted a page called TestAuditor. The reason provided is "Unambiguous advertising or promotion". However this is not the case. Is so then all the products in issue tracking system would be also promotional.

The article is covering a product that is one of these issue tracking systems and they can only be added to a list like this is there is an article.

There are real benefits from users in knowing what is available in the market. The article in the next generation of the product QCReporting. Please can you explain how the article could be seen as "Unambiguous advertising or promotion" or are you ok for me to give it another try?

SamBardon (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:42, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

I deleted it as unambiguous advertising or promotion because it was unambiguous advertising or promotion. "Letting users know what's available in the market" is the very definition of advertising. Articles for Creation is a place to create legitimate articles, not to host spam indefinitely. If you plan to "give it another try", I suggest you read this first. Kafziel 15:03, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Skimlinks

Hi, thanks for reviewing my article over at Articles for creation. However, it seems that instead of giving it a submission denied template, you deleted the content altogether. Can you please reinstate it with the appropriate template so that I can build on the article and make it suitable for Misplaced Pages? Also, I understand from this talk page that you have a certain dislike for "procedural stuff" but this was the first article I created and seeing it deleted with no notice whatsoever was extremely unpleasant. Getting some proper feedback and a note on my talk page notifying me of the deletion as stated in the project would have been appreciated.

I've posted the same comment/request over at the project's talk page if you want to comment on there as well. Juniper4589 (talk) 15:00, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Fair enough. I'll make you a compromise - I'll restore it, but not back into AfC. I'll put it into the article space and let it go through Articles for Deletion instead. If it passes, cool. Kafziel 15:10, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I appreciate you taking the time to do that. Why will you not restore it in AfC though? I purposely used AfC to submit it because I knew the risks involved in writing an article about a company in terms of it sounding too promotional (plus it's my first time creating an article and I really was looking forward to getting constructive feedback). I tried to make it sound as "non-advertisy" as possible - I realise you're probably very busy but would you mind re-instating it AfC and pointing out which bits I need to work on? I was aiming to emulate the tone of Mind Candy and VigLink; are those not good examples for companies of Skimlinks' size and industry? Thanks! Juniper4589 (talk) 15:20, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

I'm not putting it in AfC because I don't believe articles should just be allowed to sit out there indefinitely. I'm tired of hearing about the AfC backlog, so I'm taking care of it myself. We are supposed to be writing an encyclopedia that anyone can edit; articles should be created in the article space and edited by the whole community. You are free to edit it in the article space along with everyone else. Kafziel 15:24, 22 November 2013 (UTC)