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Women's national football teams by class
Hi I'm wondering why you removed the recent changes I made to the article. Everything that I wrote add's something to the article and nothing has been taken away. I'm not sure why you think this isn't the best way to write the article nearly every country has this format, I'm not saying just because they have done it that way it is right but it's a fair indication. Looking forward to hearing from you, you can write on my page if you like, thanks.Snaz01 (talk) 15:20, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi. The maps are hand curated. I'll get to work on a map for women's football teams ASAP per your request. I'll put it on the task force page once I've finished. Del♉sion23 (talk) 18:45, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
- Here is the map, as promised. I've coloured the countries missing teams or articles in brown. I've added it to the taskforce page, and also added a progress bar for the project. Thanks for the appreciation :) I'm glad the maps are useful and hope this one is too. Keep up the good work on sports articles! Del♉sion23 (talk) 21:08, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
DYK for Jaume Llambi
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DYK nomination of María Carmen Rubio
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DYK nomination of Guillermo Rodriguez Gonzalez
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History merge request
Hi Laura, I'm confused by your history merge request for User:LauraHale/Francisco Angel Soriano San Martin. I don't see any page history at Francisco Angel Soriano San Martin, was there another page you meant to request? Let me know and I'll merge them. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 02:48, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
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DYK nomination of Bernabe Costas de Miranda
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DYK nomination of David Mouriz Dopico
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DYK nomination of Oscar Trigo
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DYK for Disabled sports in Spain
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DYK nominations in danger of rejection
Laura, as far as I can tell you have not yet responded to any of the six DYK notifications of issues with your nominations. I don't understand why you bother to nominate articles if you aren't going to address issues that come up in the nomination process.
Of the six, one has been approved because someone intervened and took care of the issue, one has been rejected, and the remaining four (post-Christmas) are all a week old, the standard interval to wait before it's considered safe to assume the person will not respond. As such, they could be rejected at any time, and are likely to be so in the next couple of days unless you take action.
Please give these remaining four DYK nominations your attention right away, and give some priority to issues with your nominations going forward. Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:46, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Spanish Federation of Sports for the Deaf
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Nomination of Oriol Sellarès Martínez for deletion
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AN discussion
You are the subject of a discussion at WP:AN#Laura Hale topic ban. Fram (talk) 17:18, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
- Hi Laura. I understand your unwillingness to go to ANI, but I am afraid we really have a problem with your editing. Would you please be willing to respond in the ANI thread (where a number of examples are collected) or elsewhere? Thank you.--Ymblanter (talk) 14:44, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
- I apologize, but as the AN discussion was started about 5 minutes after I started adding sources to an article I created that Fram had nominated for deletion, and where Fram mispresented the availability of sources related to the topic. Fram has previously sought to block me from processes and misrepresented my work, including falsely counting DYKs I wrote as being about Gibraltar when they were clearly not. He had also gone after me for Flat Bastion Road and for another article about an Australian Paralympic guide skier at DYK. For me, this is a continuing pattern on the part of Fram in going after me. (I have previously requested that Fram cease interacting with me.)
- In my opinion, @Demiurge1000: did a good job at debunking the examples provided.) Since the discussion at DYK, I have made a very conscious effort to seek second opinions when I am unsure of the meaning of words, spent most of December learning Spanish, tried to rely less on translation tools to understand meaning, and sought assistance from members of Wikimedia España when I had even more questions about what I was reading.
- The three examples Fram provided were not about translation errors. One was a typographical error. One was contorting the English language to avoid close paraphrasing from a translation. The third was a misunderstanding of a topic, not an issue of translation.
- Most of the articles that Fram likely would point to are less issues of translation than of attempting to write an article to prove the article satisfies WP:GNG. Writing styles and citation styles differ very much when writing a stub about an inherently notable subject, when writing an article about a subject to demonstrate they pass WP:GNG, writing an article for WP:DYK, writing an article for WP:GA and writing an article for WP:FAC. As @Dr. Blofeld: notes, these articles are not the best things ever, and they are not striving to be. Rather, the are trying to demonstrate notability, and Fram is mistaking poor writing to pass WP:GNG for misunderstanding sources. Instead of being here to positively contribute to Misplaced Pages by improving the prose, Fram takes me to AN which goes back to m point about this being an example of Fram's hounding. --LauraHale (talk) 15:03, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
- I personally do not see problems with the notability of the articles I look at, but I do see problems with the prose (English is not my mothertongue though, and I was already accused multiple times of not understanding things here, so that I can be wrong), and indeed sometimes articles you created do not contain the same info as Spanish sources contain. I see that these two problems were cited on many occasions in the past, and I see that it persists. I do not think Fram is going to check all your articles and re-write all the prose. How do you think we should solve it?--Ymblanter (talk) 15:18, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
- A qualification of writing for Misplaced Pages is not writing brilliant prose. I do not see many occasions where these problems were brought to my attention. The first I am aware of was the discussion on DYK, which Fram who has a history of hounding me, started. The second time it was brought to my attention was when it was brought up on ANI. If I have been informed on this on other occasions, then please provide diffs related to this notice of notifications on my talk page. Fram provided three examples. That is not many considering the number of articles I have written and the number of edits I have made using Spanish sources. What percentage of my contributions using Spanish sources do you think are problematic? --LauraHale (talk) 15:23, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
- I do not know what percentage is problematic, I would need to check myself. However, even if the percentage is very small, these are still articles (and actually BLP articles) which contain wrong information, and smth has to be done about this. And if you have see the ANI thread, you must have noticed that, apart from the topic ban issue, Fram is certainly not the only editor who sees a problem here.--Ymblanter (talk) 15:34, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
- As I have said earlier, I have taken steps to make sure that I am understanding Spanish content better and will make every effort to do better in the future. While I admit that my comprehension is not always 100%, most of the issues pointed out are problems of prose, not problems of translation. I believe that Fram is cherry picking to make me look bad, taking a few isolated cases and blowing them out of proportion. I believe he is engaging in hounding, which is why he tried to bring up my affiliations in the AN notice. I also believe that his hounding is why he did not take appropriate steps to raise these concerns with me. I am open to potential mentorship where some one could vet my Spanish comprehension in terms of article writing if there is a greater demonstration of problems than the ones provided by Fram on AN, but not until a later date and independent of any action connected to Fram. (Who took me to AN immediately after I started working to prove notability on an article he nominated for deletion.) Also, can you please point me to diffs where I was notified that this was a problem as requested? And demonstrate that following my commitment on DYK to try to be much more careful regarding my use of Spanish language sources, I have continued to engage in the problematic behavior? I will happily work on those articles to fix the problems identified after I made my commitment, because I am trying very hard to use sources in compliance with policy. I will continue to do so. I just need examples to have an idea of what the problem is and how I can fix it. --LauraHale (talk) 15:51, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
- I have now taken the last article you created (it is not my field at all), and here are the issues I found: (note that this includes some cleanup as well). I see there one info which was plain wrong (16 instead of 18, probably typo), one which looked like a machine translation (about two fourth places), one which was incomplete (one gold instead of two), and a wrong name (English is Biscay, fortunately it was included in a disambig). Whereas it is very likely that most of these were not really translation problems but just typos and similar issues, I am afraid this was too much for an article which has three paragraphs of prose. Do you want me to check more?--Ymblanter (talk) 16:17, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
- Also copyedited this article a bit, hope this helps.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:07, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
- I have now taken the last article you created (it is not my field at all), and here are the issues I found: (note that this includes some cleanup as well). I see there one info which was plain wrong (16 instead of 18, probably typo), one which looked like a machine translation (about two fourth places), one which was incomplete (one gold instead of two), and a wrong name (English is Biscay, fortunately it was included in a disambig). Whereas it is very likely that most of these were not really translation problems but just typos and similar issues, I am afraid this was too much for an article which has three paragraphs of prose. Do you want me to check more?--Ymblanter (talk) 16:17, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
- As I have said earlier, I have taken steps to make sure that I am understanding Spanish content better and will make every effort to do better in the future. While I admit that my comprehension is not always 100%, most of the issues pointed out are problems of prose, not problems of translation. I believe that Fram is cherry picking to make me look bad, taking a few isolated cases and blowing them out of proportion. I believe he is engaging in hounding, which is why he tried to bring up my affiliations in the AN notice. I also believe that his hounding is why he did not take appropriate steps to raise these concerns with me. I am open to potential mentorship where some one could vet my Spanish comprehension in terms of article writing if there is a greater demonstration of problems than the ones provided by Fram on AN, but not until a later date and independent of any action connected to Fram. (Who took me to AN immediately after I started working to prove notability on an article he nominated for deletion.) Also, can you please point me to diffs where I was notified that this was a problem as requested? And demonstrate that following my commitment on DYK to try to be much more careful regarding my use of Spanish language sources, I have continued to engage in the problematic behavior? I will happily work on those articles to fix the problems identified after I made my commitment, because I am trying very hard to use sources in compliance with policy. I will continue to do so. I just need examples to have an idea of what the problem is and how I can fix it. --LauraHale (talk) 15:51, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
- I do not know what percentage is problematic, I would need to check myself. However, even if the percentage is very small, these are still articles (and actually BLP articles) which contain wrong information, and smth has to be done about this. And if you have see the ANI thread, you must have noticed that, apart from the topic ban issue, Fram is certainly not the only editor who sees a problem here.--Ymblanter (talk) 15:34, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
- A qualification of writing for Misplaced Pages is not writing brilliant prose. I do not see many occasions where these problems were brought to my attention. The first I am aware of was the discussion on DYK, which Fram who has a history of hounding me, started. The second time it was brought to my attention was when it was brought up on ANI. If I have been informed on this on other occasions, then please provide diffs related to this notice of notifications on my talk page. Fram provided three examples. That is not many considering the number of articles I have written and the number of edits I have made using Spanish sources. What percentage of my contributions using Spanish sources do you think are problematic? --LauraHale (talk) 15:23, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
- I personally do not see problems with the notability of the articles I look at, but I do see problems with the prose (English is not my mothertongue though, and I was already accused multiple times of not understanding things here, so that I can be wrong), and indeed sometimes articles you created do not contain the same info as Spanish sources contain. I see that these two problems were cited on many occasions in the past, and I see that it persists. I do not think Fram is going to check all your articles and re-write all the prose. How do you think we should solve it?--Ymblanter (talk) 15:18, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
- Most of the articles that Fram likely would point to are less issues of translation than of attempting to write an article to prove the article satisfies WP:GNG. Writing styles and citation styles differ very much when writing a stub about an inherently notable subject, when writing an article about a subject to demonstrate they pass WP:GNG, writing an article for WP:DYK, writing an article for WP:GA and writing an article for WP:FAC. As @Dr. Blofeld: notes, these articles are not the best things ever, and they are not striving to be. Rather, the are trying to demonstrate notability, and Fram is mistaking poor writing to pass WP:GNG for misunderstanding sources. Instead of being here to positively contribute to Misplaced Pages by improving the prose, Fram takes me to AN which goes back to m point about this being an example of Fram's hounding. --LauraHale (talk) 15:03, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
DYK for Spanish Federation of Sports for the Blind
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