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Redirects for discussionThis page was nominated at Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion on 18 June 2012. The result of the discussion was keep as a redirect.

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For critical examination of Misplaced Pages by Misplaced Pages itself, see Misplaced Pages:External peer review/Nature December 2005 (40 science articles) and Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2005-10-31/Guardian rates articles (7 articles of general interest).

Article on Misplaced Pages in the Harvard Educational Review

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Fall 2009 Issue of the Harvard Educational Review

High School Research and Critical Literacy: Social Studies With and Despite Misplaced Pages by Houman Harouni

http://www.hepg.org/her/abstract/742

"Drawing on experiences in his social studies classroom, Houman Harouni evaluates both the challenges and possibilities of helping high school students develop critical research skills. The author describes how he used Misplaced Pages to design classroom activities that address issues of authorship, neutrality, and reliability in information gathering. The online encyclopedia is often lamented by teachers, scholars, and librarians, but its widespread use necessitates a new approach to teaching research. In describing the experience, Harouni concludes that teaching research skills in the contemporary context requires ongoing observations of the research strategies and practices students already employ as well as the active engagement of student interest and background knowledge."

The Wikimedia Foundation has abandoned efforts to combat explicit pornographic content on Misplaced Pages

As of 2013, the Wikimedia Foundation has abandoned efforts to combat explicit pornographic content on Misplaced Pages because its board members were not able to reach a consensus.

New source. QuackGuru (talk) 01:55, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Sigh. This is the problem with purists. They lose all sight of common sense, even manufacturing arguments that "common sense" is somehow a misdirected ideal in itself, and as a result end up making some fairly simple mistakes even when all variants of a "slippery slope" argument is made. IPA is one such debacle. The edit war over the image in ejaculation is another. Ignorning the solutions to the large number of cited references that just do not say what they're purported to say is yet another.173.48.201.245 (talk) 17:27, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Jimbo's role

Is there a better place to put this or a better way to qualify it:

According to Business Insider, "In September of 2012, there was a quite a bit of media attention surrounding two Misplaced Pages employees (yes, they do have some paid personnel – including Jimbo who makes more than $50K per event where he is a speaker) who were running a PR business on the side and editing Misplaced Pages on behalf of their clients."

It's in the section "Jimbo's role" but it's not about him; it's about two Misplaced Pages employees who are not Jimbo. Kind of misleading. If this was added to criticize Jimbo's role, it should only be for the dollar figure (which is itself misleading -- as though he writes himself a check from WMF coffers when he goes and talks somewhere). --Rhododendrites (talk) 03:03, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Section detailing a broadening or narrowing of "Office Actions" ???

Misplaced Pages is not perfect and has numerous failings. Everyone has a chime-in on that of course. However, one particular problem (both in public understanding of current policy, and whether or not the policy itself is a good idea) is the degree to which wikipedia remains "hands off". There have been an increase over the years in explanations of "office actions", but none of them AFAICT explain really where the line is drawn currently, and where the momentum for changing it may or may not lie.173.48.201.245 (talk) 17:23, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

best wikipedia article

ever — Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.247.0.68 (talk) 21:58, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Comparative_study_on_scientific_articles_conducted_by_Nature

The section on the Nature v Britannica survey suggests that the results were similar. It is also apocryphally bandied about Nature and Britannica have roughly the same accuracy. A 25% higher failure rate by WP is not similar. 25% is not a negligible. 3 is not the same as 4. The section and the myth are misleading. Span (talk) 22:09, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Claims not verified

@Useitorloseit: made this edit In the source, there are no hits for "abuse" and none of the hits for "2006" or "2009" are related to the claim. Yes, the source talks about administration and admins, but I see nothing at all in the source that supports the claim as it appears in the article. The overall jist of the study is that following a following an early balloon creating a ginormous amount of content content, there was a balloon in edits related to maintenance and organization/administration. There doesnt seem to be any "criticism" at all. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 13:16, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

I don't see how you can read that article and say it is not critical. The gist of the section I'm quoting from is that Misplaced Pages is getting sidetracked into arguments over "process", and the increase in edits for organization/administration is a symptom. Nonetheless, I think this might be better in another section of the piece. Useitorloseit (talk) 19:59, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
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