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PFM explained

PFM; Alfred Centauri 16:16, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

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Your edits at derivative

Hi. I left a message at talk:derivative. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 01:53, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

How about making the variables italic, at derivative, that is,
''x'' or <math>x</math>
instead of plain x? And it would be good if you use edit summaries, they are helpful for other pople.
I strongly disagree with putting the main formulas and the full rigurous mathematical definition on top of an article. If you hang more around this place, you will understand why. People complain that math is hard, that mathematicians write only for themselves, that is, their articles are incomprihensible and scare away people who would like to learn. See also Misplaced Pages:Make technical articles accessible. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 02:47, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Polarizer

It's common usage in optics to talk about the light "transmitted" through an optical element (as opposed to light incident on the element or reflected from it.) You're right, though, that this terminology might be confusing to a general audience. I reworded it. See if you think it's better.

The other things you mentioned are a style of presentation from scientific publishing. The idea is to punctuate the equations as if they were part of the sentence, rather than ending the paragraph before each equation with a colon. Thus, if an equation happens to fall at the end of a sentence, it gets a period. If it falls at the end of a phrase, it gets a comma. Depending on the sentence, no punctuation may be required. This is generally easier to read and understand, but I do admit that for some reason with Misplaced Pages's typography the commas and periods are somehow not as aesthetically appealing as they are in print. I'm not sure why that is. It may be that just more spacing is needed or something. Similarly, it is common in good scientific writing to introduce the variable that is given by the equation at the place where that quantity is first mentioned, i.e. before the equation appears.--Srleffler 04:20, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Edit summaries

Would you mind using the edit summary field, it makes it a lot easier to see whats going on. Thanks! --Tawker 21:01, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes please, at all times. :) And using your account at all times is good too. More clarity helps others. :) Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 01:26, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
I try! Fresheneesz 01:28, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Style tip

Yes, I bug you. :) One remark. One should not put links in section titles, they look ugly, and belong in the text only. Thanks. :) Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 20:03, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Sometimes it seems like it would be cumbersome to add the text needed to incorporate the link inside the text. But again, I'll try to compromise. Fresheneesz 22:35, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

August Müller

Thanks for redlinking August Müller in Contact lens. This is like a red rag to a bull to me, and I produced this, which was a DYK article earlier. I think an article on Eugene Kalt is in order, plus a sentence or so on him in the history section of contact lens. I'll get on to it when I get the time. I wasn't the editor who added the bit about Müller being the inventor of the first 'true' contacts to contact lens, but if I can find any more I will add to both the Müller and Contact lens articles. Regards, --BillC 23:02, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey to you too

I saw your comment on my talk page. Well, I might be someone you know. What's your name? Anabanana459 16:37, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Ultra

Hi, please could you get consensus to move the page? I think primary disambiguation is reasonable for Ultra. — Matt Crypto 22:48, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Block

Very well, I'll extend the block; I was just looking at his extended edit history. — Deckiller 23:55, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

It's not a 100 percent case of simple vandalism, though a good portion of it violates WP:CIVIL. I'll give him a final chance after the three hour block, since I DID notice that some of his edits were semi-productive. Thanks for bringing it to our attention, though it might have been better placed under the "complex" admin intervention tab. — Deckiller 00:06, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Your welcome. I'm just thinking that maybe this will give him a clue that Misplaced Pages is run a certain way, and excess attacks and debates are uncalled for. If not, the block will rise :) We've had users get a clue before, so there's always hope. — Deckiller 00:17, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

removed RFMF tag

I'm not well-versed in the mediation process, though I'm sure one of the mediators can help (click the first link in that box for a link to the mediators). — Deckiller 03:39, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey, Fresheneesz, it doesn't look like Avidor is doing anything with this mediation, so I just removed the RFMF from the PRT talk page and my talk page. If he follows through with mediation he can put it back. A Transportation Enthusiast 05:28, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

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Table of Electrical Resistivities

For a complete listing of accurate resistivities for elements in the crystaline state you can see: International Critical Tables of Numerical Data, Physics, Chemistry and Technology (1st Electronic Edition) Interactive Tables Edited by: Washburn, E.W. 1926 - 1930;2003 Knovel

Volume 1, Page 103-105.

There are other references availible, this just happens to be a classic one.

Ratio test

May I just ask quickly, why did you change the a terms to f? x42bn6 Talk 02:14, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Edit summary

Hi Fresh. One request. Please use an edit summary, and yes, even on talk. You know, if you want people to bother to read what you write, you could at least take the trouble of making it clear what you want to say. :)

You can start a new talk section by clicking on the "+" tab at the top of the page. You can then put the edit summary as the section name. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 17:40, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

I replied on my talk. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 23:27, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
Replied. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 23:31, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
Again. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 23:37, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Path

Fresheneesz, thinks like:

Mathematics {\displaystyle \rightarrow } Algebra {\displaystyle \rightarrow } Elementary algebra {\displaystyle \rightarrow } Polynomial


are a radical overhaul of the Misplaced Pages user interface. You should surely bring it up at the Misplaced Pages:Village pump (policy) or other places before putting it in articles.

In the meantime, I will remove it from where you put it, as it lacks consensus, and to me it looks ugly. Cheers, Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 03:02, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

"Derivation for point mass" section in Moment of inertia

On March 23, you removed a section entitled "Derivation for point mass from the moment of inertia page. I completely agree that the heading for that section was misleading--moment of inertia is a defined quantity, so it doesn't make sense to "derive" it.

A major concern of mine with physics pages, however, is the amount of information they give to a reader who doesn't already understand the concept. While a seasoned physicist would certainly understand why we define moment of inertia as $I = mr^2$ for a point mass, that definition may seem arbitrary to someone who's just learning the concept--it definitely did to me!

I've rewritten the section and titled it "Uses of moment of inertia", but I wanted your input on it. Do you think it's an improvement to the article?

Trying to help people understand physics,

--Starwiz 20:00, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
Whoa! I didn't read the article closely enough. There's already an "applications" section! I still think we need something showing how moment of inertia and angular velocity can give equivalent formulas, so I've moved my math under the "applications" section. It might be better to actually derive the torque equation, though... Starwiz 20:06, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the edits to the page. I think it's significantly improved. I'll think about the best way (if any) to add further elaboration about torque. Starwiz 22:44, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

References

Just a quick note about Blu-ray Disc; the "References" section actually does go above the External links (according to Misplaced Pages:Citing sources, specifically, Misplaced Pages:Citing sources#Further reading/external links anyways). And it most definitely goes above any navigation boxes. I also wanted to thank you for tending the linkspam on that (and other) articles. If you find yourself removing spam often, you may want to join WikiProject Spam. —Locke Coletc 22:57, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Well it's just that this is the first time I've ever seen someone do what you're doing before. =) And (IMO anyways) it makes more sense that the references (that is, the links which verify the article contents by providing sources) appear first. I suspect this is why Citing sources suggests placing external links below references. In the interests of making it more acceptable though, I've shrunken the font size of the references (see, for example, Marshall Plan, where this is used to make a large refs section visibly smaller). I hope this addresses your concerns. —Locke Coletc 23:42, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

PRT

Fresheneesz... you mentioned on JzG's talk page that you'd be interested in a rational discussion on PRT with a non-proponent. I'm not a proponent, although it might appear that I am based on my fights with Avidor on the talk page. I just get offended by statements that "PRT is a hoax and a scam" and that makes me appear to be more of a proponent than I truly am. I also detest the way that Avidor has tried to manipulate Misplaced Pages to support his political campaign, so that's another reason I've gotten involved here. Truth is, I have serious questions about PRT, mainly related to costs. But the technology is intriguing to me, and I'd like to see one get built to see if the cost projections play out. Hopefully ULTra will give us some more solid answers. Feel free to drop me a line on my talk page if there are PRT topics you'd like to discuss (I'm new to it too and have found it difficult sifting through all the rhetoric in search of the truth) A Transportation Enthusiast 17:06, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, I started looking at PRT a few months ago, and at first I was swayed to the negative by the LRN article. I later did some of my own research and realized how misleading LRN was, hence my anger towards that particular article. I hated the fact that it turned me off to this technology by spreading what amounts to a bunch of propaganda. Anyway, I was initially skeptical of short headway, but I've done all the math since then, and I'm completely convinced short headways are completely safe. The important point is that brick wall stops are nearly impossible in a well-designed system, so there is no need to have longer headways than 0.5, provided that the design and engineering is sound. This is the critical point for me: if the engineering is such that MTBF (mean time between failures) for critical components is in the millions of years, then only acts of God can produce a brick wall stop on the guideway. And no system can protect against acts of God. So in my view the main point of contention is not headway, but other concerns. My main concerns about PRT are:

  • short headway regulations - this is a political concern, but politics is a big part of this. I know from a technical standpoint that subsecond headways are safe, but will a regulatory agency rule the other way? Especially given the bias towards rail in many of these agencies?
  • guideway walkways - this is another regulatory question. I've heard opponents say that a walkway would be required along the whole guideway, by law. I've seen the proponent argument that most failures will allow a vehicle to be pushed into a station by another vehicle, which would seem to indicate that walkways are not needed. Only the most extreme failure would require a bucket. But again, when dealing with regulatory agencies, there's always a question. And walkways along the whole guideway would probably be a deal killer.
  • cost estimates - it's very interesting that ULTra has demonstrated some reasonable cost numbers, but that's just one system (and a simple one at that -- not even guideway power in ULTra). It's tough to tell how good the estimates are when there are no systems in existence (and, of course, systems are not built because of concerns about escalating costs -- a chicken and egg thing) Also, because PRT is so different, it's difficult to compare cost to line haul modes. I.e. is PRT quoting bidirectional travel for its cost numbers? It's not clear to me.
  • aesthetics - I love some of the renderings on the Taxi 2000 site. To me, it would blend in nicely in a city. But others have expressed concerns. I do believe that the aesthetics argument is overblown -- take a look at some highway structures for an example of how much we will accept in the name of moving people around efficiently.
  • the last mile - would people be willing to walk a quarter mile or more to use public transit when they can use their car? Maybe, maybe not. This is true of all transit, but PRT doesn't completely solve it (though it does alleviate it by making stations closer)
  • logistics - I've seen convinving claims that maintenance would be minimal and could be largely automated, but it's still an unknown for me.

A Transportation Enthusiast 21:41, 5 April 2006 (UTC)


Re: headway regulations - I agree that starting with longer headways is the way to go, politically (where "long" is 5-seconds, still very short by rail standards). This seems to be the consensus among proponents: start with reasonable headway assumptions and as the systems are proven and (hopefully) regulatory agencies relent, then shorten the headways to meet increasing demand.

Re: walkways - I've seen this claim in a few places, and yes, it would be a deal killer I think. Again, politics. There are very safe transportation systems in existence that are elevated with no walkways, so the concern is not really safety... just the perception that a walkway would be needed "just in case". But why don't we have parachutes for every passenger on airplanes? Because (a) the extremely low crash rate makes them more trouble than they're worth, and (b) even in the event of a crash, they probably would not help much. I think the same can be said of walkways on the guideway.

Re: cost - I'm not disputing any individual cost estimates... I'm just skeptical of cost in general until a real system can be built and the cost estimates are proven. Also, because PRT is so complicated, what does "$10M per mile" mean? Is that uni- or bi-directional? Does that include cross-links between sections (since PRT is typically a grid, not a line)? What about stations and vehicles? Maybe I just haven't researched it enough (my eyes start to glaze over when I start reading accounting-like data - I'm much more interested in the technology :-)). What I would like to see is a side-by-side analysis of capacity per cost for PRT versus LRT. In other words, take an LRT line and calculate its costs and capacity (i.e. I've seen LRT numbers like $60M/mile that can support on the order of 10k/hr... but some systems, i.e. Seattle, come in at almost $200/mile), then calculate how much of a PRT grid could be built with that amount of money. And then I would do the PRT capacity calculation at different headways, to find the "crossover point" -- the headway point at which the capacity/cost ratio for PRT exactly equals that of LRT. What would that number be? If it's less than .5 seconds, then LRT is more economical; more than 3 seconds, then PRT is more economical. If it's between .5 and 3 seconds, then it clearly depends on headway.

BTW, I can't find the specific numbers right now, but I think ULTra has demonstrated something like $10-15M per mile. Don't quote me though.

Re: logistics - I'm actually referring to more than just routine maintenance. I'm talking about support in general -- repairs, guideway inspection, etc. It's not clear to me how much support staff would be necessary for a large PRT grid. I agree that the lack of moving parts makes the support problem much easier.

Re: Skytran - I haven't looked at Skytran too much, because it didn't seem as mature as some of the others (Taxi2000, ULTra). I also don't like the small vehicle design and the high speed design. High top speed is nice, but I don't think it's necessary for most applications. I'll give Skytran another look when I have time.

A Transportation Enthusiast 18:10, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Mediation tag?

Hi, Fresheneesz. I'm not really sure what you're asking. You might want to check out Misplaced Pages:Mediation. Andre (talk) 20:54, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Style tips

Hi Fresh. Per the math style manual, variables must be italic, so x instead of just x. Thanks. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 16:17, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Equation template

Hi Fresheneesz,

Please don't start using that equation template without consulting other users. It breaks the ability of HTML to flow text around images, and is not a standard way of annotating equations. Thanks, --Heron 09:49, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes please. As I told you before, big things need advanced consultation. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 15:07, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

And please note that section headings must be of the form

 	==Calculating the Thévenin equivalent==

and not

	==Calculating the Thévenin Equivalent==

(lowercase leters that is). Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 15:09, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

I'll just stop using the template then. I just made it so I could format equations in a more compact (and also easier to read) way. Otherwise I just have to do it manually. It really isn't a huge change. And I'm aware of the capitolization standard, as well as other standards. But i'm not perfect, and things like that slip every once in a while - especially when i'm doing large edits. Fresheneesz 19:20, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, but it wasn't the template itself I was worried about, it was the formatting that placed text to the right of the equation. This is not the way that equations are conventionally formatted in Misplaced Pages, and IMO it's not easier to read. Everybody else puts equations in line with the text or on a separate line, followed by the key to symbols. Please don't change this without consulting. --Heron 19:44, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Ok, fair enough. What specific page did you find this formatting worse (if no specific, just an example)? We can ask people on the talk page which they think is better. I've edited a bunch of eqns like this, and you're the first person to complain after like 4 or 5 days or so. And none have been reverted, so I assumed that I was on the right track. Lets discuss this because I refer to eqns in wikipedia a lot, and that formatting makes pages (slightly) shorter, utilizes more of the page, and effectively separates the variable explanations from the rest of the artice - so those that don't need to read it can easily skip over them without feeling like they're skipping actual content. Fresheneesz 19:49, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
I applaud your intention to save space and distinguish the "where" section from the main text, but your implementation doesn't always work. I suspect that the present method is the only one that works in all cases, which is why it has been universally used up to now. Equations are displayed as bitmaps, which means that they won't wrap within tables, so your method will always fail with long equations.
The first bad example I found was this version of Transformer. On my screen, the equation template for v P {\displaystyle v_{P}\,} got squeezed by the diagram of the transformer, causing the table within your template to be confined to less than half the page width, in turn causing the "where" text to be displayed as a column of single-word lines that occupied most of the screen height. This may be because I'm working on a laptop with an 800x600 display today, but Misplaced Pages is meant to work on any reasonable screen size. The point of HTML is that it flows to fit any screen width, but you break this feature if you start putting text into tables.
The next examples that looked bad were in this version of the same article. The equations for V S {\displaystyle V_{S}\,} and I S {\displaystyle I_{S}\,} had the word "where" floating above and to the right of them, with the symbol definitions below that word and to the right of the equations. This meant that the reader got to the word "where" before he saw the equations, resulting in a very confusing format. --Heron 20:18, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Alright, well I tried a couple variations, and none work out better. I would say that my method works... unless it doesn't. And when it doesn't, we can just use the old way. How does that sound? Btw, does my format look fine on pages that aren't constricted by pictures or something else? Fresheneesz 01:23, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

In reply to your question, I think this equation template needs to be discussed at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Mathematics. I feel I don't quite like that template, but I don't have good reasons for that, I guess I am just used to the old way of doing things.

But please don't use it until people comment on it. In the worst case it will be time wasted if people disagree with it and we proceed on removing it from everywhere. So, community opinion is important. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 00:34, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Given that in 99% of the cases, the space saved is very small - I think the following format would be better:
t h i s i s a n e q u a t i o n r i g h t ? {\displaystyle this_{is}an_{equation_{right}}?\!}
where
this is that,
this is not that, and
how!
does that look good? I think the offset is much more important than the minscule amount of space my template saved. Fresheneesz 02:01, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes, that looks good to me. --Heron 12:01, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Removal of AfD tag

Please do not remove AfD tags from articles which are subject to deletion debates. It is considered vandalism. Just zis Guy you know? 23:17, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

SkyTran deletion mediation

Fresheneesz, I did not solicit votes, and in fact I didn't even vote myself since I was out of town and didn't check that page for two weeks. I do believe that once again JzG is acting at the behest of Avidor (Avidor is the one who originally demanded deletion, and JzG quickly complied as he has repeatedly in respons to Avidor). If JzG was anonymous I might even suspect he was an Avidor sock puppet, because he's basically done almost everything Avidor's requested him to do. I have posted a comment on the deletion debate page and I will try to keep involved. A Transportation Enthusiast 02:06, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Freshenesz, I applaud your efforts. I think the article is great, meets every Wiki criteria, and will support you in every possible way.
I, too, have had articles yanked for no apparent reason other than they violated an admins POV. Despite repeated requests for qualified statements supporting deletion, all I received were personal attacks, rhetoric, and unqualified statements.
Please let me know how I may be of assistance in your endeavors. Dr1819 15:34, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
Which articles? You've had one article deleted more than once because you failed to provide citations to reputable sources for its significance, and this deletion was twice confirmed by deletion review, but I've not seen one which was deleted for violating an admin's POV. Just zis Guy you know? 16:21, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Butterflies

OK, I deleted the two redirects you tagged and moved Butterfly (FFT algorithm) to Butterfly diagram. This was what you wanted, yes? I don't know what went wrong; let me know if I can explain anything or be of any assistance. In future, though, to move stuff you should be able to just click "move." Chick Bowen 04:01, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Invitation

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your invitation

copied: Hi, the invitation you gave me says that i'm invited to be a mediator in a *different* case. Is it just standard to ask people to mediate for someone else if they need mediation, or something? I'm just a little fuzzy about what i'm supposed to do with the inviation. Thanks! Fresheneesz 06:20, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

You have submitted a case and answered that you already tried to mediate the case. That was, however, not the question in the form. The question was if you would mediate a different case. That's why I posted this invitation to your talk page. You can be a mediator yourself if you want to and you can ignore the invitation. The reason why you might decide to be mediator after submitting a case lies within the categorical imperative. See "Kantian guilt?" --Fasten 11:26, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Unimodal

I've put a comment on JzG's space. I could discuss options with you here if you like. Stephen B Streater 10:16, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Cordite

Saw your comment on Cordite.

My first thought was that you had misinterpreted the article, my second thought was perhaps the article needed clarifying.

Assuming that you had misinterpreted the article I would say that Cordite is properly classed as an Explosive for legal and transport reasons, but we don't wish to use it as an explosive, i.e. we don't wish it to go bang.

It is used as a propellant. In guns (fire arms, to battle tanks, to naval guns) a charge of cordite (bagged, brass cartridge case, cardboard case, or combustible charge case, depending on the weapon and the date it was designed) is used to propel a bullet or shell (depending on size of gun) up the barrel. In rockets (cordite was first used in WW II for Anti-Aircraft use) the cordite propels the rocket. The Space shuttle, for example, is lifted on a combination of liquid propellants and solid booster rockets - but its not Cordite.

This is why the various editors of Cordite and Smokeless powders (but not some much in Cordite) talk about grains, grain geometry, burning rates, regular burning characteristics, etc. For Cordite (not in article) burning rates are in the range of several inches per second down to several seconds per inch (centimetres can be used if you prefer). A high explosive detonates about 7 to 8 kilometres per second, only in the movies can people out-run it.

Welcome your comments. Without being unkind, an article on petrol (gasolene) would not be expected to list all the cars and vans it could be used in, thus I'm not sure it would be a good ideal to list every gun or rocket that used cordite. Welcome comments on the way to proceed.

Regards Pyrotec 08:39, 9 May 2006 (UTC)


Double superscript notation

See Talk:Double superscript notation. Cheers, Kel-nage 17:49, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Unimodal

I'm tidying up the Unimodal article a bit, as promised. Mostly I'm making it shorter by tightening it up a bit: more concise language, removing things not specific to the Unimodal system itself and merging some very short sections. Have a look some time. Stephen B Streater 20:41, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Elements

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VCC

Hi Fresheneesz, I need some help over at Talk:Double subscript notation. Bye, --Abdull 16:29, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

User:Stephen B Streater/FORscene

Hi! I'm improving the original (deleted) FORscene article. There's still some more to do, but you might like to check it over for spin and bias, if you get a chance. Stephen B Streater 18:06, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Derivation of half-life

Hi,
You remarked in an edit comment at Half-life that you're moving the derivation to the talk page, but the talk page's edit history shows no edits by you. Where did it go, and why did you remove it at all? I've placed your talk page on my watchlist, so you may reply right here, to keep the discussion all in one place.

P.S: You can use the five-tilde (~~~~~) feature for the timestamp at the top of this talk page. --Smack (talk) 02:43, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Hmm, yea I guess I never did end up pasting the derivation to the talk page. Whoops.. I did it now. I removed the derivation because it wasn't clear, and I guess I didn't think it was very helpful. I can't remember my reasoning, but I didn't think it derserved the space it took up.
Do you think the derivation should stay? Sometimes, its better if derivations like that appear at the bottom of a page, or if they appear on a separate page all together. Oh and thanks for the five-tilde tip. Fresheneesz 03:30, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
I think that a section at the end of the page would give it the right amount of prominence. I originally put it in the beginning because I needed it for the formulas, but that point is moot now that we have a whole section just to define the term. I'll put the derivation back, then. --Smack (talk) 03:48, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Sounds good, I'll copy this discussion to the talk page of half-life. Fresheneesz 03:55, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Image:SkyTran Seattle2.jpg

I'm afaraid we can't use images for which we only have premission to use them on wikipedia. They need to be released under a free lisence of some kind.Geni 13:46, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Image_use_policy#Free_licenses. The GFDL allows reuse. Thus lisences we use for images much also allow reuse.Geni 19:49, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
the image would need to be relesed under the GFDL, creative commons attribution, creative commons attribution-ShareAlike or released into the public domain.Geni 23:17, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

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Why'd you remove the non-breaking space? — Omegatron 21:20, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

It looks ugly? It makes the wiki-side hard to read. Does the nbsp matter? I mean, normal spaces in normal sentences also produce a space, and&nbsp;make&nbsp;the&nbsp;english&nbsp;language&nbsp;much&nbsp;easier&nbsp;to&nbsp;read. Don't you think? But maybe theres a good reason for the nbsp? Fresheneesz 22:41, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
I agree that it makes it harder to read, and I wish there were an automatic solution, but it's the best we have right now. It is put there on purpose, so that numbers and their units do not separate, for instance. This is part of SI style, and recommended by Misplaced Pages's Manual of Style, too. I wish there were a special character for it, like 160___km/h or 160~~km/h or something. Either that or have the software generate it automatically when it detects units or something. — Omegatron 23:03, 10 June 2006 (UTC)


About Afshar's experiment

While perusing different opinions of various people on Ahfsahr's experiement I was glad to see that you, at least, made the absolutely obvious remark that in any ususal Young slit experiment both wave- and particle-type behavious of the photon is apparent in the same experiment (albeit at different times): propagation from the two slits to the image is wave-type, as it creates interferences. But when a detector actuallly detects a perticular photon this is particle-type behaviour, as you mention. The same is true in Afshar's experiment, but is is much more subtle, the waters are muddied because of the dissymetry: one is led to believe that the photon arriving at one detector had to go through the appropriate pinpoint because in fact, the probability it did *not* is small. Small but not negligible, and this is the solution to the paradox. My point of view has been removed from the "Afshar experiement" discussion, but moved on my "user talk page", if you are still interested. Alfredr 05:24, 11 June 2006 (UTC)


How does one nominate such an objective individual for Wiki Admin status?

I'd really like to know, as I've seen multiple commantaries effectively resolved under your guidance. Dr1819 23:16, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Conversation continued at User_talk:Dr1819 Fresheneesz 23:23, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

FORscene

Fresheneesz, you might want to take a look at the FORscene article, which is tagged for cleanup and is up for deletion again. Overall it looks pretty good to me, but it probably could be toned down a little bit. Stephen is perhaps too familiar with the topic to fix it himself. I may try to work on it too. A Transportation Enthusiast 05:11, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Inclusionist proposal

Freshenessz, you are an answer to prayer. After several articles I contributed heavily to were deleted for nn I've all but given up on writing. Instead I've been searching to contribute on a larger scale to protect and encourage quality, nn articles. I've just discovered your conversations at the Village Pump and Misplaced Pages talk:Notability and am impressed with your zeal. Are you sincerely interested in proposing an inclusionist notability policy? I certainly am, but I don't want to write it alone. Let me know. --Ephilei 00:10, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Wow, that was fast. See my edit. --Ephilei 04:20, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm much more sympathetic to relaxing notability a notch than relaxing verifiablity. Please could you preserve verifiability in your proposals. Stephen B Streater 18:06, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Cheek

I've been reading through your user page, which is interesting as I expected. Are you very possessive of it? I could fix a couple of typos while I'm there if you like. Stephen B Streater 11:09, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Not possesive at all, go ahead. Fresheneesz 11:12, 24 June 2006 (UTC)