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A question

Whose drunk girlfriend made this edit? The Ungovernable Force 17:37, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Also, where is the Jewish part of your edits? None of your editing I've seen has had anything to do with Jewish related topics. The Ungovernable Force 07:14, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

What we did has nothing to do with being Jewish. We just happen to be Jews, so it was a convenient username for our effort. We're Jews (our benefactors, and editors (with the exception of one assistant editor)) who injected our intelligence into the Misplaced Pages system into the specific areas we were concerned with, building a latticework that will further our own interests in the real world. What those interests are has nothing to do with being Jewish (apart from our inherited intelligence and cultural values, perhaps). We just happen to be Jews. That's all. RJII is not the name of the underlying organization. (I don't think we were planning on revealing what RJII stood for, in order to prevent any confusion, but one of the editors promised otherwise several months ago, so we had to make good on that). RJII 07:21, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Ok then. The Ungovernable Force 07:30, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

So what's next then?

Well, after a year the www.RJII.com website's still empty. What's the business you're moving into? I would be genuinely interested to know what the parameters of your experiment were, and what the results were, and how you went about rigorously following methodology. while I broadly agreed with those of your positions I encountered, it didn't look dispassionate experimental behaviour to me - User:RJII came across as just as garulous, single minded, and somwhat-lost-the-perspective an editor as any of the rest of us here). I don't notice much evidence of multiple editor personalities, nor of any systematic experiment per se (though I grant you this might not be apparent from a third person perspective). that said, it you have truly done that, then I think it is an interesting thing, and I'd be interested in the results. But this could, after all, just be a collossal bluff, right? And why peg yourself(ves) as "Radical Jewish"? As TUF says, there was no apparent Jewish focus, let alone slant or bias, in your edits. So isn't identifying yourself in that way somewhat provocative to the "there's a zionist conspiracy" element? ElectricRay 09:58, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

So you're a Political Soldier eh? Charming. --maxrspct in the mud 19:41, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

We're simply not afraid to say out in the open that we're Jewish. Like we said, it was simply a convinient username that represented almost all of us (I, as part time editor, am the only one who isn't Jewish by the way). Any suspicions of an evil Jewish project are founded upon a more fundamental irrational hatred of Jews. Sure, almost all of us are Jewish and we have a "Project" but so what? That doesn't mean what we're doing is evil. If anyone wants to think it's a Jewish conspiracy, I suppose that's fine. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with Jewish conspiracies. A conspiracy to do what? To cause the expansion of global capitalism so that we can exploit the struggling masses? Take over the world? What would that mean, even? Get over it. (Not directed at you, Electric Ray, but for anyone that wants to think "there's a zionist conspiracy." RJII 20:12, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. NOT A JEWISH CONSPIRACY BUT A PLATFORM TO MAKE IT LOOK AS IF THERE IS ONE. A false flag operation. I am definitely not saying it's a Jewish conspiracy (I couldn't care less about your origin or whatever).. but that you are trying to engineer anti-semitism on wikipedia by this 'jews in the office business'... to try and make it LOOK like there's a jewish conspiracy - the other way around RJ!!! It was you who started talking about ethnicity first. --maxrspct in the mud 23:20, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

I know where you're coming from, but like The Ungovernable Force says, it still seems needlessly to court a reaction from the "zionist conspiracy" crowd, and I can't see the point in doing that - unless you're trying to provoke a reaction?. Also, what is there for the skeptical folks like me who would like to know more about the "experiment"? Are you going to publish it? ElectricRay 22:04, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

I think there is also concern you are trying to provoke concerns for a zionist conspiracy by labelling your project Jewish. The Ungovernable Force 20:22, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Fine, there's a Jewish conspiracy then if that's one wants to think. So what? That doesn't mean there's anything evil about it. Let the foolish conspiracy theorists waste their time with such nonsense. RJII 20:24, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

The point is a credibility one. If you're a credible evolutionary biologist speaking plenty of sense, why call your organisation the "L Ron Hubbard Institute of Research"? People tend to judge books by their covers. ElectricRay 22:04, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

On a related note, I talked to one of the editors through email a few months ago - would that editor be fine with me sending one last email? There is a question I am burning to ask... (it's just a piece of information I would like to know) -- Nikodemos 22:23, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

I think they've been blocked for all time into the hereafter, so it's the only chance you've got, I think. ElectricRay 22:31, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Blocked

You have been blocked for using a shared account, per your own admission. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 20:53, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Where is this rule? This account is not being shared by individuals at different locations. It's being used at one location by people who happen to be in the same room all from the same IP. RJII 20:54, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

The block is under review by the admin community as we speak. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 20:57, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. RJII 20:58, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

If you see the AN page, the admin admits to not knowing for sure if it's a rule. I think they should have probably asked on AN before blocking. I think you 4 having 1 account is better than having 4 accounts. That's just me. The Ungovernable Force 20:59, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Pardon the above user's misinterpretation of my comments, but it is a rule, (several actually; see Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard#User:RJII). The general consensus so far is that the block is valid. Good day. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 21:20, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

There's a general consensus about officious behaviour, too, Jeffrey. ElectricRay 21:41, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

RJII User Comment

Reinstated removed text from RJII's main page. I think this is useful and informative, and to the extent it was removed as the text of a blocked user, I am adopting it as my own. ElectricRay 22:12, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

I was just about to do the same thing. I am extremely curious to find out what lies behind those "CENSORED" labels. So I would very much like RJII to get a chance to finish his/their statement. -- Nikodemos 22:19, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

'Wolves which batten upon lambs, lambs consumed by wolves, the strong who immolate the weak, the weak victims of the strong: there you have Nature, there you have her intentions, there you have her scheme: a perpetual action and reaction, a host of vices, a host of virtues, in one word, a perfect equilibrium resulting from the equality of good and evil on earth."' -Marquis de Sade

The RJII Project began as a one year mission, however, due to a stronger than expected show of resistance due to entrenched bias and irrational integration of information, the Project was extended until June 30, 2006 so that its goals for Misplaced Pages could be fully realized. Though resistance was significant, through the use of advanced techniques of......one full time editor, two part time editors (all operating under the username RJII), and one full time research assistant. This allowed us to edit/research/strategize/debate 18-24 hours a day for approximately a year and half...logging nearly 25,000 edits, introducing knowledge and concepts that were not yet present on Misplaced Pages, and integrating information in a more coherent and orderly manner, we are now extremely pleased to announce that the Project has been successfully completed (as of late May).

We are not concerned that information will be deleted when we leave here to move on to projects in the business world. There are two reasons for this. Firstly, we have included an enormously large number of redundancies throughout the intricate latticework we constructed (all NPOV and sourced or easily sourceable information -contrary to an improper ruling in an Arbitration ruling we did not engage in "original research," and we were dedicated to ensuring NPOV in all articles as well as making sure that edits of others' were sourceable. However, it is true that we did engage in very infrequent personal attacks. But, these personal attacks were well-deserved and we stand firmly behind them). Secondly, the conceptual content has itself has already transformed the ideosphere by breeding new "soldiers," so to speak, who have integrated the intelligence into their own intellect, and who continue to replicate in a viral manner. These two elements will ensure that information and concepts are re-edited into the articles repeatedly forever in what we may call the eternal battleground of Misplaced Pages. The basic intelligent framework we instituted into the system will not be dismantled, as it is already well into building on itself as we speak. Veritable seeds of knowledge have been scattered throghout the system, have sprouted, and will continue to grow and propagate. Nothing short of a Herculean effort could could inflict permanent damage on the system. But, such a Herculean effort won't take place. The reason for this is that the enemy simply does not have the conviction behind its own ideas that is necessary to organize and sustain such an attack. The enemy is weak because it is wrong. Morever, not only is the enemy wrong, but wrongness is the enemy.

The RJII Project has been victorious in what it set out to accomplish on Misplaced Pages, but the larger goal is still to be acheived. Why was the Project undertaken? Certainly it is to shape public opinion, but to what end? What is the biggest picture? What practical goal do we have in mind?......Since the Project has been completed approximately four weeks prior to the scheduled June 30 completion date, we will be, and have been, engaging in minor tinkering on Misplaced Pages to pass time until late June on a much more infrequent and irregular schedule, as you may have already noticed. On July 1, we (including at least one of our benefactors) will be boarding aircraft en route to Martha's Vinyard for a protracted vacation in celebration of our victory but also to celebrate Independence Day (there could not be a more apt holiday to coincide with our victory).

We would like to thank those editors on Misplaced Pages who assisted in furthering the aims of the Project (not intentionally, but by sharing in the desire to include certain information into Misplaced Pages). We want to make it clear that we believe that without these individuals through their editing, sourcing, voting to keep articles, as well as in defending RJII in arbitration cases and RFC's, the completion of the Project would not have been possible (this RFC was especially entertaining, as it illustrates just how much of a farce that attacks against RJII were: Requests_for_comment/RJII The individuals making the attacks made quite a spectacle of themselves). We sincerely thank you (we don't need to list names; you know who you are). We would also like to thank the enemies of the Project; their protestations, argumentation, arbitration cases, RFCs', and edit-warring only created publicity and drew non-involved parties to the areas of conflict, attracting them to important concepts presented by the Project, which ultimately worked against their goals (these defeated individuals now sit in despair and anguish as they realize that there is nothing they can do to stop what has begun or revert Misplaced Pages back to its less intelligent state). Moreover, their opposition inflamed our competitive spirit and drove us to increase our efforts and increase the scope of our Project. The more conflict that this information and concepts generate, the more publicity they will create, and the more they will be accepted and integrated into the ideosphere as individuals realize that they have been manipulated by flawed reasoning and have missed out on having access to particular crucial information. The intelligence will pervade most, if not all, of humanity. Finally, we would like to thank the creator of Misplaced Pages, Jimmy Donal Wales. He has provided a method for bringing forth information to all of humanity that has up to know been suppressed or ignored by the information controllers. No longer will information be shielded from the general public because it's politically incorrect. No longer will the academic hierarchy decide what the student sees or does not see.* To all of you: Thank you for your participation in the Radical Jewish Intelligence Initiative.**

Notes

• RJII is not a Jewish project per se. We (our benefactors and the editors, with the exception of one assistant editor) just happen to be Jewish individuals who have injected our intelligence into Misplaced Pages in order to further our own interests in the real world. It is merely a username and not the name of the underyling organization, and does not have anything to do with our mission. If anyone wants to think there's an evil Jewish conspiracy going on, fine. That only shows what a despicable character you are by assuming that anything that is Jewish is evil. Everyone is capable of good and evil, Jew or not. We're no more or less human than anyone else.

Note to administration: It is requested that this account (RJII) be deleted immediately after June 30, as it will never again be accessed (please do this to ensure that no one acquires the password and engages in impersonation). It is also requested that the IP address be permanently blocked after June 30 as well to avoid any possible impersonations, as our ad-hoc Atlanta office will be permanently dismantled and the ISP account canceled. Thank you for your assistance.