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A question

Whose drunk girlfriend made this edit? The Ungovernable Force 17:37, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Also, where is the Jewish part of your edits? None of your editing I've seen has had anything to do with Jewish related topics. The Ungovernable Force 07:14, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

What we did has nothing to do with being Jewish. We just happen to be Jews, so it was a convenient username for our effort. We're Jews (our benefactors, and editors (with the exception of one assistant editor)) who injected our intelligence into the Misplaced Pages system into the specific areas we were concerned with, building a latticework that will further our own interests in the real world. What those interests are has nothing to do with being Jewish (apart from our inherited intelligence and cultural values, perhaps). We just happen to be Jews. That's all. RJII is not the name of the underlying organization. (I don't think we were planning on revealing what RJII stood for, in order to prevent any confusion, but one of the editors promised otherwise several months ago, so we had to make good on that). RJII 07:21, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Ok then. The Ungovernable Force 07:30, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

So what's next then?

Well, after a year the www.RJII.com website's still empty. What's the business you're moving into? I would be genuinely interested to know what the parameters of your experiment were, and what the results were, and how you went about rigorously following methodology. while I broadly agreed with those of your positions I encountered, it didn't look dispassionate experimental behaviour to me - User:RJII came across as just as garulous, single minded, and somwhat-lost-the-perspective an editor as any of the rest of us here). I don't notice much evidence of multiple editor personalities, nor of any systematic experiment per se (though I grant you this might not be apparent from a third person perspective). that said, it you have truly done that, then I think it is an interesting thing, and I'd be interested in the results. But this could, after all, just be a collossal bluff, right? And why peg yourself(ves) as "Radical Jewish"? As TUF says, there was no apparent Jewish focus, let alone slant or bias, in your edits. So isn't identifying yourself in that way somewhat provocative to the "there's a zionist conspiracy" element? ElectricRay 09:58, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

So you're a Political Soldier eh? Charming. --maxrspct in the mud 19:41, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

We're simply not afraid to say out in the open that we're Jewish. Like we said, it was simply a convinient username that represented almost all of us (I, as part time editor, am the only one who isn't Jewish by the way). Any suspicions of an evil Jewish project are founded upon a more fundamental irrational hatred of Jews. Sure, almost all of us are Jewish and we have a "Project" but so what? That doesn't mean what we're doing is evil. If anyone wants to think it's a Jewish conspiracy, I suppose that's fine. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with Jewish conspiracies. A conspiracy to do what? To cause the expansion of global capitalism so that we can exploit the struggling masses? Take over the world? What would that mean, even? Get over it. (Not directed at you, Electric Ray, but for anyone that wants to think "there's a zionist conspiracy." RJII 20:12, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. NOT A JEWISH CONSPIRACY BUT A PLATFORM TO MAKE IT LOOK AS IF THERE IS ONE. A false flag operation. I am definitely not saying it's a Jewish conspiracy (I couldn't care less about your origin or whatever).. but that you are trying to engineer anti-semitism on wikipedia by this 'jews in the office business'... to try and make it LOOK like there's a jewish conspiracy - the other way around RJ!!! It was you who started talking about ethnicity first. --maxrspct in the mud 23:20, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

I know where you're coming from, but like The Ungovernable Force says, it still seems needlessly to court a reaction from the "zionist conspiracy" crowd, and I can't see the point in doing that - unless you're trying to provoke a reaction?. Also, what is there for the skeptical folks like me who would like to know more about the "experiment"? Are you going to publish it? ElectricRay 22:04, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

I think there is also concern you are trying to provoke concerns for a zionist conspiracy by labelling your project Jewish. The Ungovernable Force 20:22, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Fine, there's a Jewish conspiracy then if that's one wants to think. So what? That doesn't mean there's anything evil about it. Let the foolish conspiracy theorists waste their time with such nonsense. RJII 20:24, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

The point is a credibility one. If you're a credible evolutionary biologist speaking plenty of sense, why call your organisation the "L Ron Hubbard Institute of Research"? People tend to judge books by their covers. ElectricRay 22:04, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

On a related note, I talked to one of the editors through email a few months ago - would that editor be fine with me sending one last email? There is a question I am burning to ask... (it's just a piece of information I would like to know) -- Nikodemos 22:23, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

I think they've been blocked for all time into the hereafter, so it's the only chance you've got, I think. ElectricRay 22:31, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Blocked

You have been blocked for using a shared account, per your own admission. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 20:53, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Where is this rule? This account is not being shared by individuals at different locations. It's being used at one location by people who happen to be in the same room all from the same IP. RJII 20:54, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

The block is under review by the admin community as we speak. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 20:57, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. RJII 20:58, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

If you see the AN page, the admin admits to not knowing for sure if it's a rule. I think they should have probably asked on AN before blocking. I think you 4 having 1 account is better than having 4 accounts. That's just me. The Ungovernable Force 20:59, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Pardon the above user's misinterpretation of my comments, but it is a rule, (several actually; see Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard#User:RJII). The general consensus so far is that the block is valid. Good day. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 21:20, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

There's a general consensus about officious behaviour, too, Jeffrey. ElectricRay 21:41, 24 June 2006 (UTC)