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It has been proposed in this section that Kim Jong (table tennis) be renamed and moved to Kim Jong. A bot will list this discussion on the requested moves current discussions subpage within an hour of this tag being placed. The discussion may be closed 7 days after being opened, if consensus has been reached (see the closing instructions). Please base arguments on article title policy, and keep discussion succinct and civil. Please use {{subst:requested move}} . Do not use {{requested move/dated}} directly. Links: current log • target log • direct move |
Kim Jong (table tennis) → Kim Jong – The only person in English Misplaced Pages whose name is actually Kim Jong. Obviously Kim Jong-il is far more notable, but he does not meet WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT: I see no evidence that Kim Jong-il is called "Kim Jong" in reliable sources. More generally, the second syllable of a Korean given name is not like an English "middle name" which can be dropped arbitrarily; it's an integral part of the name, like the "than" of Nathan" or the "ris" of "Boris". We have no redirects for other nonsensical or even semi-plausible shortenings of other world leaders' names (Bar Obama, Gordo Brown). Even completely-plausible shortenings which aren't widely used in real sources either (1) don't exist (Will Clinton, Ed Heath); (2) go to a disambiguation page (Ted Roosevelt, Dave Cameron); or (3) are articles about people who actually use that shortened name, with only a hatnote leading to the far-more-notable world leader (e.g. Ron Reagan, Steve Harper). Thanks, quant18 (talk) 09:02, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose - this is just an accident of DPRK using a different romanization system from the South. Kim Jong is the birthname of King Heongang of Silla who is the primary topic in books. ko.wp has a dab with various ROK Kim Jong politicians who also crop up in English books In ictu oculi (talk) 11:26, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
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