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Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Travel Cuts

Ardenn, I do not believe that I have attacked you personally. Please explain why you believe that I have. The issue that I have raised is whether "non-notability" is a grounds for deletion, not you. Many deletionists do use "non-notability" as if it were an accepted grounds for deletion, so other contributors, like you, seem to believe that it is policy. I have not been able to find anywhere in Misplaced Pages policy that it is. Perhaps you could point out something that I have missed. Ground Zero | t 11:10, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

I guess that what I wrote was not as clear as it could have been: let me make it clear that I am not calling you a deletionist. I said that "non-notability" was a term that deletionists bandy about as if it were grounds for deletion. Ground Zero | t 12:29, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Please don't bite the newcomers

Hi. I try to welcome new editors that post new, useful articles, then I track them for a few days afterwards I noticed you proposed Slagish's first article, "Toronto Region -- Statistics Canada Research Data Centre (Toronto RDC)" for deletion, then reverted his edits to "University of Toronto" for violating Canadian English spelling rules. Take a look at my comments on his talk page -- I think you're a little confused on the spelling issue if you look at the links I included. Also, I'm not sure "Who cares" is exactly a useful or tactful basis for recommending article deletion. Take a look at WP:BITE and WP:CIVIL (the Examples) section.

I encourage you to give Slagish a break for a while and not follow him around to reverse his edits. He's brand-new and editing in good faith. I suggest you let him work on his Toronto RDC stub a little more. I'd hate to turn off a potentially productive new editor.

Thanks! --A. B. 03:05, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Ardenn, thanks for your patience with new contributor Slagish‎ -- I notice you later helped him with links and categories for his Toronto Region -- Statistics Canada Research Data Centre (Toronto RDC) article . Statistical research is not exactly my cup of tea either, but the centre did seem like it would meet Misplaced Pages's notability criteria once the article was expanded.

Also, I'm glad to learn you weren't following Slagish around as I'd initially thought. I had noticed that within one or two minutes, you'd both PROD'ed his first article and reverted his edit on another, so I thought maybe you were following him or had an itchy trigger finger.

--A. B. 03:32, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

University of Toronto

I've reverted your edits. It is not an American-centered project, and the article should use Canadian English. If you have a problem with that, too bad. See WP:CIVILITY and WP:DICK. There is a policy on what spelling should be used, I'm looking for it. Ardenn 19:12, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

In the future, I would advise that you calm yourself in situations like these before you 'attack' a person and further quote rules that have nothing to do with the situation at hand. And what's this supposed to mean: "If you have a problem with that, too bad"? — you do not own the article. I too was looking at the convention for spelling and discovered that you were right, and was just about to revert it. Anyway, could you be a little less confrontational? It really goes a long way in ensuring that others do not snap back at you. Oran e (t) (c) (e) 19:24, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

PS: In case you didn't know, the article that you quoted at me says "Telling someone "Don't be a dick" is something of a dick-move in itself, so don't bandy the criticism about lightly." Oran e (t) (c) (e) 19:27, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

This pair of sentences, taken together, show Ardenn's ironic sense of humour: "If you have a problem with that, too bad. See WP:CIVILITY and WP:DICK." Ground Zero | t 19:50, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

In the future, I would advise you, since you are an admin, to read your policies and WP:MoS before you revert. It's your job to know these things, not mine. I'm not an admin. --Ardenn 19:37, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

As an admin, I expect you to have higher standards than the rest of us. Ardenn 19:39, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Don't give me this bull. Admin or not, there is simply no way that someone can know all the policies in all areas of Misplaced Pages. All admins are regular users too, and they are expected to make mistakes now and then, so don't bring this to me. And, yes, it is also your job to know these things. Oran e (t) (c) (e) 20:56, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

canadian charities

Misplaced Pages:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 June 22#Charities by country is pretty unambiguous in its outcome. May I ask why you are reversing it? If you feel that the result was less than optimal, I would suggest cfr'ing it again, or trying deletion review, thanks. — Jun. 30, '06 <freak|talk>

What is up with your edit summaries of "rvv"? Changing categories per a CFD outcome is clearly not vandalism! You know, we even have policies that say that calling non-vandalism edits vandalism is a bad thing, and you are doing it on a massive scale. --Cyde↔Weys 18:43, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

It's not a regional issue, it's a standard naming convention issue. Demonyms should be avoided in category names whenever possible, and analagous categories for different countries should follow a predictable pattern, especially due to the fact that redirects do not work (well) with categories. — Jun. 30, '06 <freak|talk>