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Hey Jimbo

In case you happen though here, I wanted to let you know that large numbers of Wikimedia/Wikipedia image editors don't know about these exceptions at all.

And telling them about this is almost futile--

As the other documentation on acceptable use of images claims that there are no exceptions whatsoever. Therefore when told about this page they don't believe it, don't look at it, and just aggressively start deleting.

I am talking about images of dead people, not living persons.

Also-- there really should be specific examples written out here, because those editors (who do actually read about the exceptions described here) can't figure out how to apply it.

Appreciatively,

Cliffswallow-vaulting (talk) 05:41, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

You have to be more specific what images you think are being deleted outside of the allowances here. Remember that while WP:NFCI (a list of allowable examples) is there, all conditions at WP:NFCC must be met, so just because the image is of a deceased person doesn't mean it is immeiately allowed. --MASEM (t) 06:14, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

If you want Jimbo Wales to "happen through here," you should ping him via WP:Echo like I just did in this sentence. Flyer22 (talk) 06:18, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

• Looking at Special:Log/Cliffswallow-vaulting, I see no uploads at all by this user. The complaint therefore doesn't seem to be about files uploaded by the user himself. --Stefan2 (talk) 10:34, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

@Cliffswallow-vaulting: if you are referring to c:File:J. Frank Raley, Jr., Maryland politician;.jpg, the problem was that you uploaded it to Wikimedia Commons instead of here on Misplaced Pages. Commons is a repository for free media and does not accept non-free/fair use content (see c:Commons:Fair use). January (talk) 11:16, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Thank you so much! Are you saying that Misplaced Pages will accept fair use (as opposed to Wikimedia)? If so, is there anything I need to pay special attention to?

Cliffswallow-vaulting (talk) 11:51, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages accepts fair use content that meets all of the criteria. However, an image of a deceased person is usually only accepted as fair use in an article about the pictured person, the image that was deleted from Commons was being used in St. Mary's College of Maryland where it is unlikely to meet WP:NFCC#8. January (talk) 12:06, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation! Well, I will upload his picture and it put it back into the article about him then.

Appreciatively,

Cliffswallow-vaulting (talk) 12:52, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

P.S. Thank you all for the help! And thanks to Jimbo not just for this, but also for Misplaced Pages & Wikimedia!

Sincerely, Cliffswallow-vaulting (talk) 17:55, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi,

I have one last question just in case anyone still has this on watch.

With the "Fair Use" J. Frank Raley photo (mentioned above), it was pointed out it could well be acceptable as a Misplaced Pages image for the article about him.

But one last point about the St. Mary's College of Maryland article-- J. Frank Raley is effectively the founder of the school--

It was a tiny Junior College before and he led a state campaign that greatly expanded it into a four-year college with far more students.

Not only that, but--

Then he was president of it's board of trustees for 30 years, under his leadership the school then rose to being ranked "5th in the Nation" (for public colleges) by U.S. News and World Report.

Would those facts allow for use of the "Fair Use" image of him on the St. Mary's College of Maryland article as well (if supported by quality citations)?

I'm not arguing the point, just trying to see what you think.

Thanks,

Cliffswallow-vaulting (talk) 17:07, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

No, if we have a separate article on the person, the link to that article from the College's page would let the reader to see the person, but we would not allow that person's picture to be used on the college page that way. --MASEM (t) 17:30, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Ok. Thanks for the info! :-)

Cliffswallow-vaulting (talk) 17:43, 11 August 2014 (UTC)