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goldstone recantation section

can someone clarify the use of mondoweiss - looks like a blog, with no editorial oversight - and the use of middleeastmonitor - looks like many of the other 'monitors' out there, which require (as i have learned) a secondary reliable source to make it wiki ready. Soosim (talk) 13:11, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

I've replaced these two sources with better ones. --Dailycare (talk) 20:27, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

I added comments from a UN spokesman.Owain the 1st (talk) 23:32, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

thank you both! Soosim (talk) 03:59, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Section name for Goldstone's April 2011 announcement

Hi, all. I saw the news today about Goldstone's April 1, 2011, announcement, and came here to add that to this article. I was surprised and impressed to find it had been added almost immediately. It's my impression that the section is really well written; all of you who worked on it should be proud of your contributions. I do have one quibble, though: The section was named "Goldstone reappraisal" but was changed to "Goldstone recantation" in this edit. But I don't think "recantation" was the best choice. The meanings listed for the word "recant", from the Oxford English Dictionary, are given below, with emphasis added:

  • To withdraw, retract, renounce, or disavow (a former statement, opinion, belief, action, etc.) as erroneous or heretical, esp. formally or publicly.
  • To renounce or abjure ( a course of life or conduct ) as wrong or mistaken. Obs.
  • To withdraw or retract ( a promise, vow, undertaking, etc.); to go back on ( one's word ). Now rare.
  • To go back on an agreement; to renege. Now rare.
  • To renounce, give up (an intention or purpose).

As you can see, the word "recant" has a strong shared meaning element with a notion of morality and religious beliefs. I know many people here probably feel strongly that Goldstone should recant in this moral sense, but it's not really the best choice of a word for what he actually did do. I've revised the section heading to read, "Goldstone's retraction of civilian targeting claim", which avoids the use of the use of "recantation" and accurately summarizes the section's content, as well. I also added an "anchor" for the former section name, of course, so any links to it won't break. Best,  – OhioStandard (talk) 07:51, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

I agree with OhioStandard in that this is a better section title taking into account the scope of the "reivsal". Cheers, --Dailycare (talk) 15:23, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Goldstone report: Statement issued by members of UN mission on Gaza war

I have put in a new section covering the statement from the other co authors of the report and also adjusted the lead to reflect this.I have basically quoted most of what their statement was.Discuss Owain the 1st (talk) 15:26, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Agree it should be featured in the article, good work. I formatted the ref to make it easier to locate in case the url goes dead. --Dailycare (talk) 21:15, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

The alleged bias

My edit was removed, which is weird. The claim is stated twice (two paragraphs down). Furthermore, the first sentence (the one I removed) present the alleged bias as a fact. This is totally wrong. --IRISZOOM (talk) 21:06, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

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United Nations Fact Finding Mission on the Gaza Conflict → United Nations Fact Finding Mission on the Gaza War (2008-09) – I feel not that they are doing a fact finding mission on the new conflict this could be very confusing. The name would be consistent with the main article page as well. Galatz (talk) 14:12, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

  • Oppose there are hatnotes at the top of each article to avoid confusion, the names are similar but not identical. "Conflict", not "War", is used in the official name. Peter James (talk) 16:55, 12 August 2014 (UTC) The article names are not identical - one is "Israel–Gaza", the other is "Gaza" - but has an official name been given to the 2014 commission? Peter James (talk) 17:03, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
Yes I agree that we have those, however even still the Gaza War article was moved to Gaza War (2008-09) despite the others not being called Gaza War and the distinguish tab being at the top. I have not seen an official commission name no. - Galatz (talk) 20:20, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
"Commission of Inquiry" is often used to describe the new commission, and is likely to be part of its name; the UN site mentions "Gaza Commission of Inquiry" but that may still be only a description. The actual name will probably appear in documents published by the team but I don't know if any exist yet. Names of the conflict are proper nouns but are not official names in the same way as commissions so unless the names are identical (or only differ in capitalisation or punctuation) I don't think this title needs a disambiguator. The new article could probably be renamed, its current title appears to be influenced more by this one than by the sources used there. Peter James (talk) 21:07, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
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