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Respect of my gender

Hello, at one of the WP:ANI pages you commented and used male pronouns to describe me or subsequently used a comment like, 'Pretending to be something they're not'. I would like to note that I am a woman and referring to me by male pronouns by mistake, and fixing it later is perfectly fine, however given the context of the situation, I don't approve of it happening when I've made it clear several times that I am a woman. ArbCom especially has already set a precedent on this in the Manning case, where editors should respect other editor's gender identities, gender, backgrounds, and the like. I would like to be respected so I am going to ask that you edit your comment to use female pronouns. Thank you. Tutelary (talk) 15:06, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Diff? —Neotarf (talk) 21:35, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

This edit of yours. Tutelary (talk) 21:42, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

What male pronoun?—Neotarf (talk) 21:44, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Pretending to be something they're not' I also mentioned that bit. You're saying that I was pretending to be a woman. Tutelary (talk) 21:48, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Diff? —Neotarf (talk) 21:52, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

The first diff I posted. Read where it starts "Claiming to be a woman..." Tutelary (talk) 22:04, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

You were claiming to be a woman, and you are still doing so. —Neotarf (talk) 22:08, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Are you saying that I am not a woman, Neotarf? Tutelary (talk) 22:15, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Let's cut to the chase, shall we? There are no diffs. There are no male pronouns. Stop making stuff up, and go do something useful. —Neotarf (talk) 22:20, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Not when your comment ultimately continues to say and implicate that I am a guy pretending to be a woman. Under ArbCom's manning dispute, other editors are to respect gender, gender identities, and other backgrounds. ArbCom also does good to enforce their rulings by sanctions. Tutelary (talk) 22:30, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Oh, please. And the Manning case said nothing about pronouns. Content disputes are not in ArbCom's remit. You may, however, be interested in WP:ASPERSIONS —Neotarf (talk) 22:34, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Please do read Equality and respect

5.2) Misplaced Pages editors and readers come from a diverse range of backgrounds, including with respect to their race, ethnicity, national origin, religion, sex or gender, sexual orientation, and gender identity or expression. Comments that demean fellow editors, an article subject, or any other person, on the basis of any of these characteristics are offensive and damage the editing environment for everyone. Such comments, particularly when extreme or repeated after a warning, are grounds for blocking or other sanctions. - https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Manning_naming_dispute Tutelary (talk) 22:40, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

If you wish to continue making your ridiculous accusations, take it to the appropriate notice board, with diffs. ——Neotarf (talk) 22:49, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Proposed findings of fact on Banning Policy case

Hi Neotarf, notwithstanding the fact that the workshop case has closed would you please go through the findings of fact you've proposed and ensure that the claims and allegations made there are supported by recent diffs. They will make it much easier for the Committee to decide what action to take than unsupported claims. Thank you, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 04:21, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Sure, but as I indicated on the workshop page, it will take some time. —Neotarf (talk) 05:04, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

How about the three diffs which support this edit? After I just asked you to supply evidence you make an edit which adds more aspersions to your evidence. If you can't back them up with evidence (including diffs) please remove the allegations until you can. Thank you, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 07:19, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Yes, that was a typo that was fixed in this edit. —Neotarf (talk) 12:14, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Given you side stepped my point which was that you still hadn't supplied evidence for an aspersion after I'd asked you to supply evidence I've removed the allegations which weren't supported by appropriate evidence. You are free to add them back but they must be supported by relevant and appropriate evidence. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 14:42, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Required ANI Notice

] Hell in a Bucket (talk) 08:09, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Changed to WP:AE foud ] Hell in a Bucket (talk) 10:13, 26 September 2014 (UTC)