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For archived investigations, see Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/WKS Śląsk Wrocław/Archive.
10 September 2014
– A checkuser has completed a check on relevant users in this case, and it is now awaiting administration and close.
- Suspected sockpuppets
- Globetrotter1918 (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Partycja90 (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Germania Breslau (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- 68.81.204.25 (talk · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · spi block · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))
- 87.99.45.74 (talk · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · spi block · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))
- 78.9.147.126 (talk · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · spi block · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))
- 87.105.245.186 (talk · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · spi block · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))
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A fairly new account Globetrotter1918 (talk · contribs) began engaging the entire community of the Project Poland at English Misplaced Pages in repairing his damages and reverting his edits up to 18 times each day. He's been blocked 14 times in Polish Misplaced Pages already before indef, as a puppet of yet another notorious flame-warrior. But a brief look at the difs from articles targetted by him show a disturbing pattern of abuse leading back to account WKS Śląsk Wrocław (talk · contribs). Please take a look, and thanks in advance:
- Revert-warring in article Poland with fringe, far-right political agenda forced through against several long-established users: , , , , , , , , . More subtle and overt racism, anti-Semitism, and homophobia includes removing famoust Polish Jews from the article (including a Nobelaurate), replacing peace marches with football brawls and right-wing rallies, deleting Pride Parade altogether as a "homosexual propagande" (sic), or often without edit summaries.
- Revert-warring in article Tourism in Poland using all three accounts mentioned above (bingo!): , , , , , , , , .
- Revert-warring in article Wrocław (his homebase) using all three accounts mentioned above (bingo!): , , , , , , and more.
- Revert-warring in article Kraków probably out of vengance (deleting reliable ext. sources, etc.): , , , , and more.
- See also: Talk:Eight-thousander#Reverts by User:Globetrotter1918 and his inability to communicate / have a sensible discussion.
- Manipulating data in article Krkonoše (homebase rec area) using two accounts mentioned above:, .
- EI Analyzer results #1: article on Poland as edited by both, WKS Śląsk Wrocław and Globetrotter1918.
- EI Analyzer #2: article on Poland as edited by all three sockpuppets: Globetrotter1918, Germania Breslau, and Partycja90.
- So on and so forth. — Poeticbent talk 19:12, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
Note: A CheckUser has been requested due to reasonable suspicion of additional sockpuppets editing in areas not on my watchlist yet possibly as disruptive as in all of the above. The same goes for sleeper accounts. Thanks, Poeticbent talk 19:38, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
- Sample analysis
- Interaction between Germania Breslau, Globetrotter1918, and Partycja90. Article: Festival of Good Beer created 18:19, 15 December 2013 by Globetrotter1918 via machine translation. 16:40, 22 February 2014 wild claims about its popularity by Partycja90, with ext. link to facebook. 15:14, 4 March 2014 Partycja90 adds a photo of the Festiwal to article. 21:14, 23 May 2014 Germania Breslau adds the same photo to Wrocław (homebase). Edit warring by Germania Breslau in the Festival of Good Beer article with two established editors. 10:15, 19 April 2014 Globetrotter1918 adds the Festival of Good Beer to article Poland as one of Poland's main attractions.
- Interaction between Globetrotter1918, and Partycja90. Article: Tourism in Poland concerning only the city of Wrocław. 17:16, 3 March 2014 User:Partycja90 places Wrocław as the second most popular city in Poland (not true). 09:12, 20 April 2014 Globetrotter1918 makes a touchup to it in bad English. 07:58, 21 April 2014 Globetrotter1918 reverts the grammatical correction to keep the bad English... and adds 3 more bullets with Wrocław attractions (2 of them going nowhere).
Comments by other users
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- I recall the name of WKS Śląsk Wrocław (talk · contribs) from a 3RR case which I closed in November 2013: Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/3RRArchive227#User:WKS Śląsk Wrocław reported by User:Marek69 (Result: Blocked) I also blocked 87.99.45.74 (talk · contribs) for one month in 2013 for block evasion by User:WKS Śląsk Wrocław.
- The 3RR case concerned Tourism in Poland showed a distinctive pattern of warring on tourist pictures of a Polish city. Some of his edits suggest local knowledge of Wrocław. In fact the geolocation of the above IP is near Wroclaw. The list of contributors to Wroclaw shows that this IP is the top contributor to that article with 137 edits. WKS Slask Wroclaw also has 16 edits there. None of the other named accounts proposed above as socks seems to have edited Wroclaw.
- It may be of interest that Globetrotter1918 (talk · contribs) has a SUL page. It shows he is indefinitely blocked for sockpuppetry on the Polish Misplaced Pages, already noted above by Poeticbent. (His contributions page is here, which Google Translate will put in English if you want). I couldn't find any sockpuppet case there, however. The blocking admin on the Polish Misplaced Pages was User:Lukasz Lukomski who speaks English and also has an account here. WKS Slask Wroclaw has 86 edits at Poland while Globetrotter 1918 has 50 edits.
- I'm not fully familiar with sockpuppetry investigations on enwiki, so I hope I'm not making a mistake by commenting here - on Polish Wiki Op is considered as the main account of said editor, hence all usage of all other accounts mentioned above is considered sockpuppetry and blocked promptly. I'd need to consult one of the CU on Polish Wiki to double check, but I'm pretty sure all blocked account relate to Op (talk · contribs). Lukasz Lukomski (talk) 07:12, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
- Globetrotter1918 (talk · contribs) created his account on 17 November, 2013 after WKS Slask Wroclaw was blocked for a month on 9 November 2013. So if they are the same guy, this was block evasion. Except for that, we might be tempted to regard Globetrotter1918 as a successor account of WKS Slask Wroclaw. Unless he is also using Germania Breslau (talk · contribs) as another successor account. (Breslau is the German name of Wroclaw).
- Germania Breslau (talk · contribs) edits about mountain climbing and tourism, two of the favorite topics of Globetrotter1918 (talk · contribs).
- I'm leaving a ping for User:Vituzzu since he warned Germania Breslau (talk · contribs) of a possible global block. EdJohnston (talk) 02:31, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
- Reviewing the contributions of Globetrotter1918 (talk · contribs) at Poland during September I see more than a dozen reverts and only one comment on the talk page. Something to consider is a multi-week block for disruptive editing even if this case doesn't reach a sock finding. Regarding Germania Breslau (talk · contribs), the thing for which Vituzzu was considering a global block was the charge made by Germania at Talk:Simone Moro#slander? about lying by Moro in claiming to reach a summit. It seems he inserted this claim in Misplaced Pages's voice against Simone Moro in multiple Wikipedias. EdJohnston (talk) 05:22, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
- Some days before warning I eventually locked GermaniaBreslau as a crosswiki abuse of multiple accounts (basically he reacts to any local block/revert on a certain wiki by creating a new account on a different wiki). I'm considering leaving the masterpuppet the possibility to edit under the sole username "Op" which will likely be blocked on many different wikis. --Vituzzu (talk) 22:24, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
- User:Vituzzu, you are suggesting that Op (talk · contribs) (who edits mostly on plwiki not here) created WKS Śląsk Wrocław (talk · contribs), Globetrotter1918 (talk · contribs) and Germania Breslau (talk · contribs)? Op and Germania Breslau are blocked only on plwiki so far as I can tell. EdJohnston (talk) 23:33, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
Clerk note: Poeticbent, I reviewed all the diffs in #1, but when I got to #2 and #3, you provided links, not diffs. Please change all those links to diffs before I proceed. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:39, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- Clerk endorsed but just barely. Despite the massive number of diffs, there are many problems seeing connections. Too many diffs of Globetrotter. Too few diffs of the master. The EI reports are fairly useless as one would expect to see a lot of activity on the Poland article by editors who are Polish. Very few diffs establishing connections between the accounts, but I saw just enough to endorse, coupled with some deference to Poeticbent, who is Polish and may draw inferences that I cannot. For example, #1 shows a particular bent by Globetrotter. I then expected in #2 and #3 to see similar bents by the others, but instead they mostly concentrated on disruption, which didn't help much (disruptive editors, unfortunately, exist in significant numbers, but that doesn't make them socks of each other unless their reverts show commonalities). I didn't look at the IPs, and neither will the CU if they do a check.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:01, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
- @Bbb23: Two of the four accounts above are Stale. Please reevaluate your endorsement based on the accounts with current edits. —DoRD (talk) 14:32, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
- I'm not going to have the time/energy to do this until probably Thursday, September 25. In the interim, Poeticbent, can you focus on the two non-stale accounts, which are Globetrotter and Germania Breslau, and provide diffs for each, side by side with diffs of the master + an explanation of why they are similar? In other words, this puppet (name the puppet) diff is similar to this master diff because... Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:02, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
- Poeticbent, I hate to keep criticizing because I see how much effort you've gone to, but you didn't do what I asked, so I haven't even looked at the diffs in your latest post. Most important: you must compare the two puppets I mentioned before to the master, not to each other. Less important, any diffs by Partycja90 are immaterial as he isn't one of the two non-stale accounts. If you are unable to do that, I will withdraw the endorse and probably decline the case. The only alternative that I can see is to connect the non-stale accounts to each other and then block them with a different master (whichever of the two is older). I have one more day (Friday) of limited time to look at this as I'm leaving Saturday on vacation and won't be editing here during the time I'm away. If you have any questions, please let me know. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:54, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
- EdJohnston, thanks for the infomation, some of which, as you recognize, I already knew. At the moment, the main thing I'm holding things up for is to address DoRD's request about the two non-stale accounts. At best, a CU would show whether there's a technical relationship between those two accounts. To connect them to the master would have to be based on behavior. I don't think I remember the business about Globetrotter being created while the master was blocked for edit warring (it might be up there somewhere). That plus the other connection between the master and Globetrotter might be enough. I'm still impressed that you remember an edit warring report from almost a year ago. Anyway, I'll wait to see whether Vituzzu has something to say and whether Poeticbent has anything to add. Again, I'm going to be out of the loop shortly, so it may have to wait until I get back, although any admin can block and close if they feel it's warranted. I intentionally pinged DoRD in case he wishes to go ahead with the CU before we're done. You never know.--Bbb23 (talk) 04:59, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
- Germania Breslau & Globetrotter1918 are Likely.
There also seem to be several other possible accounts. I can't particuairly name them due to unknown involvement. I'll continue looking, but if someone is going through articles and has names, I will compare them with the potential sock list on the CU side.They are actually all zero-edit except one. -- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 19:43, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
- I've indeffed Globetrotter without tags. Germania is already globally blocked. I'm not sure administratively what we're going to do, i.e., leave this report as is or create another report with Globetrotter as a master, or at least the only master that we are aware of on the English wikipedia. I'm not closing this case until that's ironed out.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:22, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
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