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It is my pleasure to award Redtigerxyz with this Imperial Napoleonic Triple Crown for all their work on good and featured content here on the English Misplaced Pages. All hail the Emperor! Regards. → Call me Hahc21 08:19, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
Hey Hahc, Thanks for "Imperial Triple Crown Jewels"; but I had applied for an upgrade to the next level, "Imperial Napoleonic Triple Crown". Please let me know if there was any issue with the nomination I need to address. --Redtigerxyz 11:04, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
The result of awarding a Triple Crown at 3 am. I pasted the wrong one here. Fixed now, and thanks for letting me know. → Call me Hahc21 15:43, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
Thanks a lot Hahc. Admire your will to work for Misplaced Pages at 3 am. :) --Redtigerxyz 05:07, 16 October 2014 (UTC)


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Can you verify edits like these -? I don't think they are adequate. You should also see Talk:Ayurveda#Eight components of Ayurveda. Bladesmulti (talk) 04:29, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Bladesmulti, Ayurveda is out of my knowledge base. --Redtigerxyz 05:09, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

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Chandralekha FAC

Hi, thank you for those comments on Chandralekha. Some of your comments seem to have been resolved, so please remember to strike them out on the FAC page. Kailash29792 (talk) 09:57, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Diwali

Why did you remove references to Jainism?

Why did you remove reference to Harivamshapurana of Jinasena? It is the oldest known direct reference to Diwali?Malaiya (talk) 20:02, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Malaiya, the Harivamshapurana claim was based on a WP:PRIMARY reference. The claim also contradicts referenced text in the article that state that Diwali was mentioned earlier in 7th century Sanskrit play. Diwali (Jainism) deals with Jain celebrations. http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/166786/Diwali Most encyclopedias define it as a Hindu festival. --Redtigerxyz 06:51, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Dear Redtigerxyz,

Removing references to Jainism and Sikhism and claiming it exclusively, presents a narrow perspective.
  • It minimizes the significance of Diwali.
  • It denies the shared traditions of the dharmic religions.

Note that

  • the very earliest mention to the festival of lights on the amavasya of Kartika (Purnimanta calendar of North India, Maharashtra follows Amanta)is found in Jain tradition, in Kalpasutra of Bhadrabahu.
  • the earliest mention of term Diwali is in Harivamshapurana as Dipali (Dipalikaya). The drama you refer to is Nagananda of Harshavardhana (incidentally a Buddhist text) that refers to some festival "Dipa Pratipada" There are no details and no dates. No month is given but presumably the tithi is pratipada.

I see that you can read and write Sanskrit. Thus you cannot claim not to understand Sanskrit texts. I can provide other references. What do you need?

Incidentally what do you mean by "it is primarily a Hindu festival"?

Malaiya (talk) 23:42, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

The Diwali article is about the Hindu festival. There are sub articles about Jain (Diwali (Jainism)) and Sikh (Bandi Chhor Divas). Most encyclopedias Merriam-Webster's Encyclopedia of World Religions, Britannica, Religions of the World: A Comprehensive Encyclopedia of Beliefs and Practices, Religious Celebrations: An Encyclopedia of Holidays, Festivals ..., Oxford dictionary, Random House Dictionary, Collins English Dictionary define Diwali as a "Hindu festival". The simultaneous celebrations in the Diwali period by Jains and Sikhs are covered later in the encyclopedia (OR not covered at all). Misplaced Pages follows the former in line with other RS. The claims about Bhadrabahu and Harivamshapurana need to be backed by secondary RS, which they were not when they were added in the article.Redtigerxyz 13:53, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Question on Padma Purana & Skanda Purana:

The article mentions: "The festival is mentioned in the Padma Purana (c. 701–1200 CE), the Skanda Purana (c. 701–1200 CE), and other Sanskrit Hindu scriptures". Do you happen to know where in Padma Purana and Skanda Purana and what other Sanskrit Hindu scriptures?

Padma Purana has detailed discussion on Kartika Vrata in the Uttarakanda appendix, but I did not see any mention of Diwali. You are probably familiar with Skanda Purana with its connection with western India (often cited in context of NagaraKhanda and SahyadriKhanda). The term Dipavali is there but it has nothing to do with a festival.

Article states: "Many see Diwali honouring the return of the god Rama, his wife Sita and his brother Lakshmana from exile of fourteen (14) years, as told in the ancient Hindu epic Ramayana" There is no mention in either Valmiki's Ramayana or Tulsidas's Ramacharitamanas. Since searchable texts for both are available you can check that instantly.

Incidentally pratipada is not amavasya.

Malaiya (talk) 00:59, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Thank you for the support you have been showing towards the improvement of Chandralekha. Kailash29792 (talk) 14:23, 23 October 2014 (UTC)