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Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates/Review of closure process 2

Because you've contributed to FPC either recently or in the past, I'm letting you know about the above poll on the basis of which we may develop proposals to change our procedures and criteria. Regards, Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 09:36, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates/Review of closure process 2 results

Hi Pengo, because you contributed to FPC's recent review, I'm letting you know that the results of the poll have been posted. We appreciate your contributions to the first stage and hope you take part in this next step, here, to move towards implementing several changes to the process. Regards, Maedin\ 18:30, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Descopy

Template:Descopy has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. The Evil IP address (talk) 14:15, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi

Thank you for your nice diagram in the Misplaced Pages article kingdom (biology).

WriterHound (talk) 03:51, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Nurdle (bead) listed at Redirects for discussion

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Articles for deletion nomination of Ugg Australia

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complete icosahedron

Hi,

Looks fine to me. Thank you for the call, anyway. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 19:13, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

IPA question

I went ahead and moved your question about IPA to WP:RD/L#Quick brown fox of IPA? (Phonetic pangram?), as the IPA talk page is only meant for discussions about improving that article, not questions about the IPA in general. Hope you don't mind, rʨanaɢ (talk) 01:09, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

File:CombineZM 01 Pengo.png

Hi Pengo, Just an idea, but why don't you co-licence this image under GPL? I know that this image is not "free software" per se. The main idea behind it is just that you can publish the whole image under one licence (GPL) and not two...
cheers --D-Kuru (talk) 21:18, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Done. Not sure I follow your logic entirely, but I've dual licensed with GPL and GFDL now. —Pengo 23:50, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

thanks --D-Kuru (talk) 20:30, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Continued fraction for sine

Sorry, but I can't help you with the Pringsheim notation, and since you didn't cite a source for it, I was obligated to revert the notation while keeping the continued fraction. — Glenn L (talk) 07:34, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Template:FPC urgents

We have a number of FP candidates at the moment that need additional reviews (to build consensus), listed at the above link. I thought you might be interested as you've been a reviewer in the past. Also, do feel free to nominate any images that you are aware of that meet our standards. Best regards, Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 08:07, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Ecotone (magazine)

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File:AgathisRobusta01MelbourneBotanicGardens.jpg needs authorship information.

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Concerning .svg diagrams

Devon1980 (talk) 13:15, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Edius logo.png

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Talk:Edius

I noticed you restored Edius. Would you please restore the talk page, too? --Pnm (talk) 03:59, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Oops, missed it. Restored. —Pengo 06:13, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! --Pnm (talk) 05:33, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Misplaced Pages:Contributing your own images

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Using image Library Pengo.jpg

Hi,

While setting up a wiki about libraries, I've founded your image Library Pengo.jpg.

You can see the using on:

• http://ticri.inpl-nancy.fr/udl-bul-col.fr/index.php/Accueil

I'm only on charge of designing this wiki and I dont know what will be the final choice of librarians. But it feels well...

Thanks for having put it in free licence.

Best regards

Ducloy (talk) 20:37, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Russ Nelson for deletion

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hierarchy of biological classifications on the Phylum page of Misplaced Pages

I would like to use your Biological Classification image for a children's BugBook that I am writing. The book will be inter-media and will include hyperlinks to the Phylum page in Misplaced Pages as well as other URLs. Thanks, Nature Whisperer Dennis Burton BugWhisperer (talk) 16:24, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

No worries. You have my permission —Pengo 00:37, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

wikt:User:Pengo/Latin/species 20+

Hi there Pengo. Most of these Latin words have now been created. Is it OK to remove blue link entries from the list? Those that remain are either two Latin words jammed together, derived from a botanist's surname, or just plain mystifying. I'll have a go at the other pages soonish. Cheers. Jeff Knaggs (talk) 17:39, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Yep, That's fine. Go for it. Maybe leave a note that they've been removed so people can check the history if they want the original list. Thanks for taking the time. I'd forgotten I'd ever created those pages. —Pengo 02:40, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

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Melbourne meetup this Saturday

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A beer for you!

beer A.Blinkin (talk) 19:42, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Brown mountain

Hi Pengo,

Just looking at your lovely photos of Brown Mountain forest. I'm actually wanting to take some people out there next week. You mention you took photos on the Goongerah Old Growth Forest Walk. Just wondering if you have GPS coordinates for that or simple directions for how to get there, and whether access is suitable for a 2WD car. Also wondering whether you know anything about access to Goolengook. Cheers, --jjron (talk) 12:08, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. --jjron (talk) 10:52, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

OK, thanks. Went and saw Jill on Thursday before doing the walk and she gave me the low-down. The 'track' was a bit rough and we lost it at one stage, but eventually got back on it. It doesn't go down to the river/creek anymore, though it was within earshot; apparently a biologist had warned the walkers could impact on the frogs down there, so they took that bit out. It was an interesting walk overall, but we had to rush a bit as it was getting late and didn't want to try to find our way out in the dark (so that meant limited time for photos). Jill said she didn't think we'd get to Goolengook, suspected the bridge was out, but hadn't actually tried herself for a long time; we wouldn't have had time anyway. --jjron (talk) 15:43, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

New Page Patrol survey

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Eucalyptus regnans

Hi! I hope you like what I did. I like the little seedlings pic. It gives a sort of hope! Amandajm (talk) 02:17, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

WP Tree of Life in the Signpost

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Skull side

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Misplaced Pages Day Melbourne Meetup

Hi there. Just inviting you to the Melbourne meetup this Sunday at 11am, to celebrate our 11th anniversary. Details on that page. Hope to see you there! SteveBot (talk) 02:09, 11 January 2012 (UTC) (on behalf of Steven Zhang)

Community input required: lowering delist bar at FPC

You are receiving this because of your current or past association with the Featured Pictures project. Following on from several cases where closers did not observe the prescribed minimum votes required for a delisting, there is now a motion to entirely dismiss the requirement for a minimum. Please participate in the discussion as wide-ranging changes may arise. Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 13:30, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Courtesy link: Misplaced Pages talk:Featured picture candidates#Delist procedure changes. Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 14:00, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

February Melbourne Meetup

Hi All. Just letting you know that we have another meetup planned for Melbourne, on Sunday, 26th February at 11am. More details can be found at the meetup page. Pizza will be provided. Look forward to seeing all of you there :-) SteveBot (talk) 23:18, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

MSU Interview

Dear Pengo,

My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Misplaced Pages administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community HERE, where it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.

So a few things about the interviews:

• Interviews will last between 15 and 30 minutes.
• Interviews can be conducted over skype (preferred), IRC or email. (You choose the form of communication based upon your comfort level, time, etc.)
• All interviews will be completely anonymous, meaning that you (real name and/or pseudonym) will never be identified in any of our materials, unless you give the interviewer permission to do so.
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• The entire interview process is being overseen by MSU's institutional review board (ethics review). This means that all questions have been approved by the university and all students have been trained how to conduct interviews ethically and properly.

Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at obar@msu.edu (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your name HERE instead.

If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at obar@msu.edu. I will be more than happy to speak with you.

Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.

Sincerely,

Jonathan Obar --Jaobar (talk) 07:26, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Young June Sah --Yjune.sah (talk) 03:00, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

List of retronyms - dial-up

I know this was tagged way back in October 2010, but I just came across this and it struck me as odd, and you left no explanation on the talk page. Could you please explain What exactly you find dubious about the term dial-up as a retronym?

TFrenay (talk) 13:01, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Melbourne meetup

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Science lovers wanted!

Science lovers wanted!

Hi! I'm serving as the wikipedian-in-residence at the Smithsonian Institution Archives until June! One of my goals as resident, is to work with Wikipedians and staff to improve content on Misplaced Pages about people who have collections held in the Archives - most of these are scientists who held roles within the Smithsonian and/or federal government. I thought you might like to participate since you are interested in the sciences! Sign up to participate here and dive into articles needing expansion and creation on our to-do list. Feel free to make a request for images or materials at the request page, and of course, if you share your successes at the outcomes page you will receive the SIA barnstar! Thanks for your interest, and I look forward to your participation! Sarah (talk) 20:15, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Twitter issue

As you had participated in the previous AfD, your views would be welcome here Talk:Use_of_Twitter_by_celebrities_and_politicians#Proposal_to_merge. §§AnimeshKulkarni (talk) 16:36, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

July WMAU Melbourne Meetup

Hi, At last month's June meetup we discussed the idea of setting up a Training Course at a University of the Third Age (U3A) to be held in 2013 and named Becoming a Misplaced Pages editor. In order to get this course up and running we are calling for volunteers to help develop the idea, and either tutor part of the course, or provide one on one help to students in the class. All local Wikipedians are welcome to discuss this at our 11am meetup to be held this Sunday on 22 July. Please add your name to the attending list at Misplaced Pages:Meetup/Melbourne 23. Food and beverages are provided. Cuddy Wifter (talk) 02:50, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

'Needs washed' as copula omission

Hello, Pengo. You recently edited Copula (linguistics) in a way that suggests "The car needs washed" is a copula omission. I'm not aware of any published analysis that calls such constructions copula omission, though they may well exist. It's also possible, though, to analyze this construction in a way that does not imply copula deletion, e.g. as a variant of "The car needs washing." If you know of any sources that are on-point, could you add them to the article? Thanks, and happy editing. Cnilep (talk) 02:49, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank You for the Misplaced Pages Picture

Hello, My name is Duane Hurst and I recently made a free (non-commercial) English web site to share information with people. I added links to your Misplaced Pages/Wikimedia freeware picture (http://en.wikipedia.org/File:Buff-banded_Rail,_Pengo.jpg). I also gave credit to you on my web pages for your work. Thank you for sharing with the public. My website is:

http://www.freeenglishsite.com/

I add pictures such as yours to one of the following major sections of my site: 1. World section - contains information and over 10,000 images of every world country and territory. Link at: http://www.freeenglishsite.com/world/index.htm

2. USA section - contains information and images of every USA state and territory. Link at: http://www.freeenglishsite.com/world/usa/index.htm

3. English section - "Mel and Wes" lessons in conversation format. Stories are located in various USA states and world countries such as China, England, Germany, Japan, Mexico and Thailand. Each lesson has many slang terms and idioms, which I link to my Slang Dictionary. This eventually will have over 5,000 terms. Currently, it has about 3,000 slang and idioms. I regularly add new lessons and slang terms. Link at: http://www.freeenglishsite.com/english/lessons/index.htm Slang Dictionary link at: http://www.freeenglishsite.com/english/slang/Eslang_a.htm

Prior to retirement, I taught English at several private and public universities in the United States.

Please share this free site with your friends. I hope all will enjoy the pictures and find the English information useful. Sincerely,  Duane Hurst in Utah, USA

Email address: duanerhurst@freeenglishsite.com --65.130.202.239 (talk) 01:52, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Techno-organic material for deletion

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In case this article doesn't survive deletion, I copied it to Wikialpha, were you can continue to edit it. http://en.wikialpha.org/Techno-organic_material Mathewignash (talk) 14:34, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Meetup invitation: Melbourne 26

Melbourne Meetup Next: 6 January 2013 at La Trobe City Campus Previous: 25 November 2012 This box: view talk edit

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Alex De Grassi

Hi! May you please move this article over the redirect Alex de Grassi? See the talk for details. Thanks in advance! --Pequod76 (talk-ita.esp.eng) 02:29, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

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Simia maxima

Hi Peter,

I noticed that, back in 2006, you created the Simia maxima redirect to King Kong. Was this a joke, or is King Kong ever actually referred to by a scientific name in the relevant films or other media? The term doesn't appear on the article, and I have been unsuccessful in tracking down references to the term. Unless we can source it, I would recommend deleting it; I can't imagine anyone using it as a search term unless it appears in the media somewhere.

Neelix (talk) 02:10, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi Neelix. Good question. It wasn't something I made up, but I don't remember where it was from. I suspect I got the name from somewhere in Peter Jackson's 2005 King Kong film, but I really don't remember and can't give a more precise answer than that, sorry. —Pengo 04:46, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for getting back to me, Peter. Considering that we don't have a source for the name, I have proposed the redirect for deletion. Please feel free to leave your thoughts at the discussion here. Neelix (talk) 16:23, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Gamergate controversy

Do not change the lead paragraph again without a consensus for your proposed changes on the article's talk page. NorthBySouthBaranof asked for you to do this but you rewrote it practically identically anyway.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 04:32, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Do not restore your version of the lead paragraph without a proper discussion on the article's talk page.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 04:54, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

User:Ryulong, you have no authority to request this. Not all edits require discussion on the talk page. If you have specific problems then state them, edit my edits to improve them, or start something on the talk page.

I was not trying to minimize the accusations of sexism, harassment and misogyny, nor trying to push some gamergate agenda. The opening paragraph was simply terribly vague and unhelpful to readers. I believed I'd put the accusations still clearly in the opening paragraph, but it is difficult to state both sides at the same time. It's conventional to put what the proponents believe before stating the counter.

For the record, whatever just happened to the opening paragraph ("In video game culture, Gamergate is an online movement which emerged around false allegations of unethical conduct levied against indie game developer Zoe Quinn in August 2014...") now reads much better than what was there before I edited, albeit showing extreme bias. —Pengo 05:05, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

When your edits are contested, you begin a discussion on them to gain consensus. That is how Misplaced Pages works, period.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 05:06, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

No reason was given for the revert, so there was no contest. —Pengo 05:13, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

This is unimportant. You were asked to bring it up on the talk page. You didn't.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 05:16, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Do not modify the lead paragraph again to put the assertion that it's actually about ethics in journalism before everything else because reliable sources do not give that the weight you are asserting it must have.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 05:34, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

I never put such an assertion into the lead paragraph. —Pengo 05:38, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

You keep adding the same sentence into the lead paragraph when you have explicitly been asked to go to the talk page to discuss it.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 05:40, 26 October 2014 (UTC)