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Becky Bell article

Hello, I notice you’ve recently edited the Becky Bell page and I thought you may be interested in the justfacts.com website which provides some additional information on the case (starting about 1/4 of the way down)

Of specific interest are statements made to a newspaper reporter by Becky Bell’s best friend, Heather Clark. According to justfacts.com, “Ms. Clark, who accompanied Becky to Planned Parenthood, told the reporter that Becky did not have an induced abortion. She also said that when she visited Becky (four days after she had gotten sick and the night before she passed on), Becky asked her to schedule an abortion in Louisville, Kentucky for two days later”

The above information is from the following article: "Abortion debate shifting; Individuals become symbols in dispute." By Joe Frolik. Cleveland Plain Dealer, September 9, 1990.

However, to include this relevant information in the Misplaced Pages article, someone would have to locate the old Cleveland Plain Dealer article, which I think is only now available on microfilm. I’ve being meaning to do so, but have not gotten around to it, and thought if you had interest you may be able to get your hands on this old article. --BoboMeowCat (talk) 02:20, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

I don't know if new sources are needed so much as is a more neutral presentation of the sources already being used. I think you would be better off commenting on the Becky Bell page to improve the edits. It appears that there is an editor resisting any changes that do not preserve the articles slant. More than one editor actively voicing support for more neutral presentation of the facts may help. GodBlessYou2 (talk) 22:21, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your persistence

You should be commended for not backing down in your efforts to improve the Becky Bell article in the face of opposition from experienced editors. The article as it presently stands is much better than earlier versions in no small part to your efforts. 131.109.225.24 (talk) 18:13, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Looking back, it's clear I wouldn't have made headway without your help. It appears to be one of those articles that becomes unnecessarily contentious. Having another editor support edits is crucial when confronted with protecionists / POV police. Ironically, rather than seeing Misplaced Pages developed to present as much information as possible, some editors engage in wikilawyering and bullying tactics to exclude information, not because it is wrong and can't be verified in third party sources, but simply because it may expose one or more of their assertions of "fact" as a point of view. Seriously, the biggest gold star goes to Ca2james for confirming all the material others have cited regarding the Plains Dealer article.

Feel free to notify me if there are other articles in which you are running into similar obstructionism. I'm not sure if that invite will protect you from accusations of "canvassing," so you should check out the rules before contacting me. (This may fall under "Editors who have asked to be kept informed," but you might need to check on the talk page there, first, to be sure.) It just really bothers me when people try to keep new information from being added to Misplaced Pages based on the types of wikilawyering arguments we've seen used in the Becky Bell piece.–GodBlessYou2 (talk) 19:35, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

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