- I have no issues with edit warring other then to deal with edit warriors. I recently stated using Twinkle, and without access to this tool it is hard to tell the difference. It almost sounds like this tool works like Twinkle and there is no real difference?
As far as offense, I am tempted to take offense at being denied the tool only because when I came here I noticed DocumentError was quickly granted the tool. That's not why I came here - just happened his request was on the page. If I am not qualified to do rollbacks then I strongly object to him being given this tool because of his frequent and outrageous personal attacks against me and general incompetince as an editor who can't see past his nationalist views and refuses to accurately read and reflect sources. While I generally ignore his crap I feel strongly he should not even be allowed to edit here at all, and certainly not with any extra rights. Legacypac (talk) 20:41, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
- I can't speak for DocumentError, I did not respond to that request. If another admin wants to reverse my decision to decline yours, that is fine, but I stand by it. Personal attacks and rollback don't necessarily have a relevant correlation. When you have had issues with edit warring as soon as a month ago, that is a red flag by any standards. Correct, system rollback offers nothing more than Twinkle does. However the rollback user right allows you access to semi-automated tools such as Huggle and STiki. Misuse of Twinkle features could result in the same consequences as rollback misuse, but I'm not suggesting that will be the case with you. In fact, having a record showing what you've rollbacked with Twinkle using the three options ("vandal", normal rollback, and "good faith") is a good way to exemplify your judgement on when system rollback would be appropriate. — MusikAnimal 21:53, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
- Ok cool. I've launched multiple edit warring complaints, and sanctions have resulted on the other users, but never been found to be edit warring. The complaints are just another way of dealing with disruptive users since I don't have admin tools. I don't believe my use of 3RR reports should be held against me. If Twinkle does the same job, I'll keep using it for now. It's pretty slick - used it to do a big long term vandalism rollback yesterday actually that would have taken forever the hard way. Legacypac (talk) 22:09, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
- Legacypac - you have been cautioned more times than it is possible to count about spreading claims of other editors "personally attacking" you, as you just did here in reference to me. You have also been repeatedly informed it is par-for-the-course to ping another editor when you discuss them (what you did not do when you just leveled this accusation against me). As MusikAnimal noted, Rollback Requests is not the place for complaining about other editors. You have also been repeatedly cautioned about blanking pages, editing against RfC consensus and conducting unilateral moves of pages against consensus. You have filed more frivolous 3RR complaints against other editors than you have ever seen upheld (e.g. ). You have a penchant for calling people who have content disputes with you "pro-terrorist" and "anti-American," utterly outrageous behavior about which many of us are still befuddled your account has not been blocked over. () DOCUMENT★ERROR 23:09, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
- Since the activities of editors are scrutinized when they request tools (as mine were above) it seems fair game to make a comment on the wisdom of granting of such tool that are restricted to trusted users. If I was wrong to do that then User:MusikAnimal and I should both apologize. Happy New Year.Legacypac (talk) 00:33, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
- No. You know perfectly well what you're doing because this is your M.O. You filed an ANI against the latest new editor you've chosen to harass. I, an uninvolved editor, made a BOOMERANG observation about the name-calling you'd savaged him with. In response, you started throwing accusations against me without pinging, as you just did here in RfP. This "take no prisoners," "scorched earth" style of interaction - in which you try to intimidate and kneecap editors not to "cross" you - is your hallmark. Many, many editors are sick of your unwillingness to behave with just a modicum of decency toward others here. For the ninth (yes, I'm counting) time - do not make false accusations (or any accusations) about me, or any editor, without pinging. There are very few people who aren't closely watching your edits at this point so trying to "sneak one by" is unlikely to work. DOCUMENT★ERROR 01:57, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
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Administrator note This users request for pending changes reviewer was declined twice in December () — MusikAnimal 16:51, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
Not done You seem to have had issues with edit warring in the recent past. Furthermore, looking at the edits you have undone over the past month, I see very few where rollback would be applicable. Reverting banned users is acceptable use, but mind you can use Twinkle to accomplish the same task. This decline is nothing personal, I just don't think you'll have much use for it given the controversial subjects you work, where many of the reverts would seemingly be expected to have an informative edit summary. Thanks for your understanding. — MusikAnimal 16:47, 5 January 2015 (UTC)