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this article is a biased attempt to state similarities between Sikhism and Hinduism, where there are none.......Sikhism is different from Hinduism fundementally:

  • Guru Nanak states that the Vedas (or other relious texts do not know the mysteries of God -

Page 747, Line 18 - Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji ਬੇਦ ਕਤੇਬ ਸਿਮ੍ਰਿਤਿ ਸਭਿ ਸਾਸਤ ਇਨ੍ਹ੍ਹ ਪੜਿਆ ਮੁਕਤਿ ਨ ਹੋਈ ॥ बेद कतेब सिम्रिति सभि सासत इन्ह पड़िआ मुकति न होई ॥ bayd katayb simrit sabh saasat inH parhi-aa mukat na ho-ee. One may read all the books of the Vedas, the Bible, the Simritees and the Shaastras, but they will not bring liberation.

  • Guru Nanak rejected Hinduism, by rejecting the Janeo (Hindu sacred thread), or conformation of Hinduism.
  • Sikhism does not believe in idol worship or ancestor worship.
  • Sikhs are permitted to eat meat. (provided it is not ritually slaughtered). The Sikhs Guru's who were from Khatri/Kshatriya (warrior descent), had no qualms about meat eating. Vaishnav Hinduism emphasises strict Vegetarianism.
  • Sikhs believe that Karma can be broken by Gods will and submitting to God's will and trying to change what one can. *Hinduism believes you have to die and be reincarnated in your next life to reach a higher level of existence.
  • Sikhs do not believe in going on pilgrimages or bathing at Holy rivers etc.
  • Sikhs belive in equality of man and women. In Hinduism the woman is subservient to the man.
  • Sikhs do not believe in a caste system (unlike Hinduism).

A thoroughly biased article written by people with an agenda. - UNSIGHNED

Show me were in the Hindu scritpures Janeo is part of the religion...SHow me were it says idol worship is part of the religion....Show me where in Hinduism it says God cannott break the law of karma just like sikhism says...Show me where it says u have to go on pilgrameges in the Hindu religion.....SHow me where Hinduism it says men are higher then women....Show me where it says Hinduism belives in a caste system....U WONT FIND IT ANYWHWERE...My friend all u are doing is going by what u heard and u have never in ur life actualy read any Hindu teaching....Ur just going by what u saw and what people do...I mean if I did that I could say Sikhs are clean shaven, they drink, they fight, and they have sex before marriage because many SIkhs are like that arent they?...But their is a difference in what people do...And what the teachings say....SO before u type in all this information about what Hindus do...Why dont u try picking up a Hindu book and actually read the ACTUAL teachings....And by the way....I love how u ignoerd all the similarities i wrote in the article lol....Funny man ARYAN818 23:06, 14 July 2006 (UTC) ARYAN818 23:02, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Sources

Can you state the sources to wear you got your information from, not just links to people who talks about Communism.

Their really is no need of sitting down and wasting time for references because 1st their is not alot of info, just opinions....ANd secondly, i cant use religious texts as resources because all the stuff is not written in English...Its written in Sanskrit, Hindi, and Punjabi....BUt this is not a complicated issue....its common sense dude ARYAN818 22:55, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

So you basiclly just made a article about something you heard, hey with that logic mabye I should make a page abouthow the Vitenam war started after Saddam said something about Bush's mom! Since their opinions and all!


Elven6 15 2006 UTC

There certainly is time to 'waste' getting references. If you can't use religious sources to back your claims, then your claims are likely to be ignorant. There are English versions of both the Guru Granth Sahib and Dasam Granth online. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 11:38, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
First I didnt make this page...SEcondly i am not saying their is no need for references...But u know references dont mean anything in certain subjects....I mean if this was the Vietnam war, like u said, thats diffrent because their are plenty of people with references to prove the points...But in a case like this, their are not alot of references, and if their is, they are hard to find...However I can get references that show an opinion of someone...But then what does that prove?....All that does is get their opinion....I mean i dont have a problem with people who want references to prove somethign...But I have a problem with people like SUKH, GSINGH, AND THAT ANONOMOUS USER who basically already have their mind made up about Hinduism and SIkhism being different when they have never read all the hindu books....Then they cover up their biast opinion by saying OOOO U NEED REFERENCES ARYAN!..Thats wrong.... ARYAN818 20:48, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
If references are difficult to find, it usually suggests that a particular opinion is not widely agreed upon or that the opinion is likely to be invalid in the eyes of most scholars. You should refrain from adding your controversial additions unless you have sources. If you're unsure why you need sources, see WP:CITE (specifically the first section labelled 'Why sources should be cited').
And, I don't have anything set in my mind. If you can provide reasonable evidence of your assertions, there is no problem with you adding it to the article. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 21:14, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

You keep telling us to read Hindu texts but my question is have you read Sikh texts before? Or are you just going with the claims of the RSS?

NO thats the wrong question...It doesnt matter if I read the SIkh scripture because I am not making claims that they are different...I am saying they are the same....U on the other hand have given reasons on why they are different and yet u have not read most of the Hindu scriptures....Think about it SUKH...u have admitted that u havnt read most of the HIndu scritpures right? SO how can u say that SIkhism was meant to seperate from Hinduism?...Because u go by what u HEAR...This is what many SIkhs outside of India do....They go by what they hear...I have heard many many many Sikhs give me the strangest opinions on what they think Hinduism is...One guy told me Hindus drink cow piss...Another told me Hindus believe that the Earth is made from Bull horn...Another told me Hindus believe in the caste system...Another told me Hindus believe in many gods...Another told me Hindus believe in Widow Sacrafice...And ur no different...U also have given me strange reasons...and my issue with u...and many SIkhs for that matter...is how can all u guys have this opinion that Sikhism is different from Hinduism, when u openly admitted that u havnt read most of the Hindu teachigns?....Dont ask me if i read the sikh teachings, when im not making any claim that were different ARYAN818 05:59, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
This is rich coming from a person who calls anyone wanting to discuss Sikhism as Khalistani's. .And how does the similiarity reconcile itself with no idol worship allowed by Sikhism ? The Sikh Granth even has muslim writers and sufi saints contribution. how does that reconcile with Hinduism ? Sikhism is influenced by Hindusim and Islam, but is not = to either or them. Haphar 19:57, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
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