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Shabrika

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	Thank u for all your help. I really appreciete your comment. But thank you anyways. Shabrika (talk) 15:47, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Science and Religion: Here is the answer (just kidding)

I hope you don't mind but I just had to share a few thoughts on the topic you raised in the teahouse. Strictly speaking this isn't a proper use of Misplaced Pages resources since we aren't talking about editing any articles but I feel like I've dealt with a lot of grief in the teahouse today... then again I tend to give at least as good as I get... but anyway I'm going to let myself bend the rules to pontificate a bit. What I'm going to say is based on my reading of various scientists. I'm sure theologians have views on the topic as well but I'm not familiar with them so I'm just summarizing what I think are the two most dominant views among most scientists right now.

The two views have two strong advocates: Richard Dawkins on one side and Stephen J. Gould on the other. Gould's position was until recently the highly dominant one among scientists and intellectuals. His view is what he calls non-overlapping magisterium The idea is that certain topics: essentially the natural sciences, are under the purview of science. Other topics: ethics, questions of value, some or all of psychology and sociology can't be studied by science and can only be understood through religion and possibly philosophy.

First of all it's worth a bit of a tangent to realize that this distinction between science and religion/philosophy is a fairly modern distinction. Chomsky has lectures where he goes into this at length. People like Issac Newton, Descartes, Kant, Leibniz really didn't recognize this distinction at all. For them there were simply various branches of what was then called philosophy and that was broken down into natural philosophy (what we call science) and moral philosophy (although not confined to ethics as in modern philosophy).

Gould's view was appealing because science (e.g., evolution) was seen as encroaching more and more on traditional areas of religion. The benefit to religious people to wall off certain areas of inquiry is probably obvious. But the benefit to scientists was also real. Most scientists didn't care about philosophic or moral questions anyway and there could often be significant pressure against scientists for doing this. For many scientists who just wanted to do biology or some other natural science the Gould division was a nice way to say "we do our thing you do yours and don't bother us".

The major shift here was the publication of Dawkins' book The God Delusion In that book Dawkins took on the overlapping magisteria idea with a vengeance and IMO completely demolished it. (It will be obvious I side completely with Dawkins here, although I disagree just as vehemently with his latter turn toward villifying and even mocking people of faith). The other shift was what is known as the Cognitive Revolution sparked by Noam Chomsky. Chomsky showed that you could apply mathematical rigor to the analysis of things that in the past had been seen as the perview of the humanities not science such as language. It is IMO one of the least appreciated contributions of modern science how significant Chomsky's achievement was. The Chomsky hierarchy is a way of categorizing various types of language from simple bird calls to computer languages to the most complex human language. It is intensely rigrorous, there are formal proofs and it has applications in computer science (actually very significant contributions) as well as linguistics and biology. Another good example is the concept of a Nash Equilibrium. This is a totally different kind of result that applies more to ethics and human cooperation but the important point is like Chomsky's work John Forbes Nash's work is extremely rigorous, there are formal proof and also empirical data from all sorts of domains: ecosystems, behavior of groups when they vote, buying patterns of consumers, competition among corporations, all these things fall under the software sciences but Nash showed they could be dealt with rigorously and scientifically.

I'm going to close soon, I'm really rambling on here but one last crucial personal point: my view is much more in synch with Descartes, etc. I don't recognize that there are things that science can't study. In my view you can study history scientifically or morals (actually that is where I'm doing my work now based on work done by Marc Hauser) or really any topic. Bart Ehrman is one of my favorite bible scholars and I think its fair to say his approach is highly scientific. Of course you can't always do experiments but not all science requires experiments. IMO as long as you stick to the scientific method: look at data, develop theories, test those theories to the extent technology and ethics allow, you are doing science. Of course it is HARDER to do science in fields like ethics but to me that is just the kind of challenge that a good scientist likes.

Sorry, I'm rambling. Essentially, these are the main views prevalent right now. I could easily write several more pages but I'm not sure if this is the kind of info you are looking for or if you may be vehemently disagreeing or jsut bored so I'm going to stop there but if you have questions I would be happy to provide more feedback or clarifications. Hope it was fairly interesting and didn't offend you. --MadScientistX11 (talk) 00:57, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

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Hi, it's WelshWonderWoman here, I saw your post on my Talk page and appreciate your offer of help or support. This editing thing is all very new to me and I currently have an article awaiting review so if it doesn't work out I'd be glad of a little advice along the way. Thanks WelshWonderWoman (talk) 08:08, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

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Just wondering

Hey, at The Teahouse you asked a question about good over evil or something like that. I am curious as to what you were referring too. Just wondering. I would have responded at the teahouse but you might not have seen it. -DangerousJXD (talk) 22:31, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

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Disruptive behavior at the Teahouse

Please stop your disruptive behavior at the Teahouse. If it continues, I will be forced to ask for attention by uninvolved administrators. That will not go well for you. Please stop now. Cullen Let's discuss it 07:51, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

• Please stop now The Teahouse people are very friendly but continuing that line at WT:Child protection or anywhere else is going to result in your account being blocked. Misplaced Pages is not a place to chat. Johnuniq (talk) 09:30, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
• What Cullen says, and Johnuniq. You are this close to being blocked per WP:NOTHERE, and I suggest you drop all that kind of chatter and banter and whatnot from project pages: God invented Facebook for that purpose. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 21:06, 22 February 2015 (UTC)