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Special Relativity

Thank you for reverting my edit and sorry to put you to the trouble. I was discussing with my physics class that the common impression that "Misplaced Pages is unreliable" underestimates the reliability of Misplaced Pages (certainly in the well-trodden areas) and overestimates the reliability of everything else. I said, offhand, that if you try changing the laws of physics for example, they will be reverted extremely quickly. They challenged me to prove this to them and, as it's Christmas, I indulged them. You were the unfortunate person whose time we've taken up, but thank you for helping me teach my class a lesson. paddler (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 12:02, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

My pleasure. Note that Pokemon related articles probably are even more quickly restored to accuracy than physics related articles - Cheers and MC! - DVdm (talk) 16:53, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Shawn Drover uses triggers

You may not like it or agree with it but the fact is Shawn Drover used triggers and I'd appreciate it if you didn't try and hush this information up even if you are a fan of Shawn's it is no shame for a drummer to use triggers in fact almost all of them trigger their drums nowadays it's a sad fact of modern music but there's no reason to try and hide it. As it happens I am a big fan of Shawn Drover too in spite of it. 77.98.189.103 (talk) 14:49, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

I have no idea what or whom you are talking about. Note that Misplaced Pages is about wp:reliable sources. - DVdm (talk) 15:10, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

If you have no idea who or what I am talking about then I suggest you do not take it upon yourself to revert edits regarding them and proclaim them vandalism! 77.98.189.103 (talk) 15:14, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

If you make unsourced edits, I will revert them, no matter what or whom they are about. See our policy about wp:verifiability. Note that edits like this, this and this are considered vandalism. - DVdm (talk) 15:18, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

You can do what you like; it will make you look all the more foolish to keep proclaiming authority on a subject which you admitted to know not a jot about! 77.98.189.103 (talk) 15:23, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

I don't proclaim authority on any subject. I do have some experience on Misplaced Pages policies, so I clean up some mess and issue some warnings. - DVdm (talk) 15:26, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Heads of State of South America‎ template

Just a quick question about the revision of my edit to Template:Heads of State of South America. I added the content because it seemed strange to leave out dependent territories, especially given they are included in many other similar template (such as Template:Foreign relations in South America, Template:Legislatures of the Americas, Template:SouthAmerican legislatures).

In the edit you put 'unsourced content'. How do I source that type of content? Many thanks for your help, also apologies for my dynamic IP. 86.190.74.114 (talk) 09:48, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

This is a bit tricky. It somewhat depends on whether South America refers to politics or to geography. It could go both ways so perhaps your edits were appropriate after all. My choice of "unsourced content" was off the mark. Sorry for that. Feel free to redo. I will not interfere. Cheers - DVdm (talk) 11:21, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

No worried. Thanks. Philip Stevens (talk) 12:02, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Latitude

I have reinstated the link that was recently added to Latitude. The site is actually quite useful. It is an academic page and not a commercial page. Nor is it a dabbler's page. Nor does it violate any policy; after all it is in the External Links section. On the other hand that section of Latitude does include a fair amount of junk which I will prune. I have been meaning to do this since I finished the major edit of that page (some time ago).  Peter Mercator (talk) 16:19, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

I had removed the links on the basis of wp:ELNO, item #11: "Blogs, personal web pages and most fansites, except those written by a recognized authority." Do we have a recognized authority here? - DVdm (talk) 18:14, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

The website is under the auspices of a faculty of Dresden Technical University. It's certainly not in the blog/personal/fansite category. 'Authority' is a difficult word in mathematics: all that matters is that it is correct. I was a university lecturer in mathematics and I find the content acceptable.  Peter Mercator (talk) 17:15, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Assistance with inappropriate use of talk page

May I ask you a favor about checking out the proper use of a talk page, specifically on the Robert Palmer article. Binksternet, an often problematic and recently blocked editor, has posted a malicious manifesto against a woman named Geraldine Edwards whom he's developed an unhealthy obsession about, on the talk pages of Robert Palmer. I am admittedly a neophyte in the area of Misplaced Pages, but it is my understanding that the talk pages exist to improve the quality and veracity of an article, not as a forum to attack a third party. He has entitled his paranoid diatribe the San Diego Hoaxer problem, in which he's all over the map accusing an individual that he believes exists of numerous acts, propounding dubious and far-fetched theories. Apparently, Binksternet is a bona fide conspiracy theorist. In addition the attack references multiple articles, however, he has posted all his delusional allegations under the Robert Palmer talk page. In addition, he has posted multiple attacks against an editor named Zabadu, insisting that he is from San Diego, regarding his comments to the Robert Palmer talk page. For whatever reason he has developed a fixation that a conspiracy has been formatted in San Diego, which is a bit alarming. Zabadu clearly stated to Binksternet during one of his multiple attacks against him that he is from Sacramento, and indeed he is. Finally, when this was revealed, Binksternet removed his malicious comments and warnings from his talk page. With all due respect, and in no way am I trying to create a problem here, Binksternets' mental hygene appears to be in question in this regard. That being said, I wonder if Binksternet's long winded diatribe on the Robert Palmer talk page should be modified or even removed. When you have a moment, can you check this out? If you're wondering why I came to you on this, well, I always trust a Frank Zappa fan. Thanks for listening! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.77.220.178 (talk) 21:54, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Apart from my recollection of a few pretty catchy pop songs and ditto girls in some of his video clips, I know virtually nothing about Robert Palmer, so I'm not really able to have a close—and relevant—look at the rationale behind this and the impressive body of evidence presented here and here. Removing that valuable and relevant content, which for me does not at all read like a "malicious manifesto", from the article talk page would be i.m.o. highly inappropriate.

Having met user Binksternet on a few occasions here, I must say that I was highly impressed by the broad and scholar nature of his research. As I cannot possibly match that, I'm afraid I am not able to help you. Please note that remarks about another user being "a bona fide conspiracy theorist" and about his "mental hygene" will not help either. Good luck. - DVdm (talk) 00:05, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Disagree with you, but everybody's entitled to their opinion. Thanks for the input. Have a good one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.77.220.178 (talk) 21:00, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Any further edits by this incorrigible hoaxer should be removed immediately. See Misplaced Pages:Long-term abuse/Geraldine Edwards hoax from San Diego for details. You can refer to that page when deleting posts. Binksternet (talk) 05:19, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for that link! Cheers - DVdm (talk) 10:00, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Time

Tnx for yr diligent AGFing re the Time "suite". Got an alligator situation here, but i hope our discussion can soon work twd the longer-term solutions that i think we both hope for.
--Jerzy•t 22:27, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi Jerzy. Sorry, hadn't seen this message yet. No problem. By the way, I have removed the spaces (  ) at the beginning of your message here and on some article talk pages—see wp:talk page formatting. Thanks and cheers. - DVdm (talk) 17:15, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Albert Einstein, early life

Even so, what's the point or relevance? His parents were apostate Jewish, in other words, not Jewish. He went to Catholic School, stongly implying being a catholic. His parents would have been shunned then and that is the only time it was important. You might as well write: His parents were consdiered freaks by the Jewish community, at least to anyone who understands what the statement means. I find it defaming. GESICC (talk) 19:25, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Please take it to the article talk page, where other contributors can provide input. This is not the place for that. Cheers - DVdm (talk) 21:41, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Blatant editorializing

DVdm, what specific statement have I made that you consider blatant editorializing? I really have no idea what I did that could be considered blatant editorializing. I said, "The reader should note the equations to be solved are not the equations for a hyperboloid discussed above:". Do you consider this statement to be blatant editorializing? Now the reason I said this is because the discussion of hyperbolas and hyperboloids could easily mislead the reader. RHB100 (talk) 19:09, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Please take it to the article talk page, where other contributors can provide input. This is not the place for that. Cheers. - DVdm (talk) 19:17, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Warning

DVdm, this is a warning. You have engaged in vandalism and disruptive behavior. If you continue in this conduct you will be reported and there could be serious administrative action against you. You have accused me of blatant editorializing. I have denied this accusation and you have been unable to show me any instance of where I engaged in the behaviour of which I am accused. You have used this false accusation as an excuse for reverting my post. This false accusation you have made amounts to nothing less than a personal attack on me. You have been warned. RHB100 (talk) 01:17, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

See this reply by user Kendall-K1 on the article talk page. If, after having looked at the MOS-guideline (wp:EDITORIALIZING) and your edit (), you still fail to understand that this is indeed a classic example of editorializing, then I'm afraid I can't help you. - DVdm (talk) 10:05, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RHB100 (talk • contribs) 23:58, 27 January 2015‎ (UTC)

Commented. - DVdm (talk) 07:50, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Huggle message

Hey DVdm! You are receiving this message because you are subscribed at https://meta.wikimedia.org/Huggle/Members#Beta_testers

I have recently launched a new downloads for beta testers that contains nightly builds of huggle, eg. versions that are built every day from our master branch and contains latest huggle. These builds are currently provided only for Windows and Ubuntu. You can find them here: http://huggle.wmflabs.org/builds/

Please keep in mind that these don't have any automatic updates and if you download and start using nightly build, you will need to update it yourself! So don't get yourself to running old version, it's possible to install both stable and nightly huggle, which is what I suggest.

Keep the bug reports coming to phabricator: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/create/?projects=Huggle Many thanks! Petrb (talk) 09:56, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Reverting notice Engineering Education

Dear DVdm, I'm not expert in wiki but I faced a problem creating the article on "Education studies", which is a research field, because it was redirected to "Engineering Education" as teaching activity. I didn't find another solution to create the page on "Education studies" than removing the "redirect". But into the article on "Education studies", I introduced that in some case "Education studies" means ""Engineering education" and here I introduced a link toward the corresponding page. I hope I did it correctly. But now I see the whole page on "Education studies" disappeared. It was many hours of work to avoid the previous mistaking redirection. I don't know now what to do to not loose this work you deleted. Best, — Preceding unsigned comment added by PinsonV (talk • contribs) 16:01, 7 February 2015‎ (UTC)

Please sign your talk page messages with four tildes (~~~~). Thanks.

I think that user Sam Sailor's suggestion (at User talk:Sam Sailor#Redirect remove) to insert the content in the existing article Engineering education is a good one. Good luck. - DVdm (talk) 20:52, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Reverting PROD removal

I have reverted your reversion of the removal of a {{PROD}} template from Wetted surface. I don't agree with Andrew Davidson (talk · contribs) in his removal of the PROD, but that is a valid action. WikiDan61_ReadMe!! 22:57, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I understand. Thanks. - DVdm (talk) 22:58, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Proper length

I would be interested in your opinion on the Proper length article. I have moved it around a bit as it seemed to be mainly about the different concept of 'Proper distance'.

I have nothing agains the term 'proper distance' although I do not think that is that widely used or particularly helpful but an article should be mainly about the subject in its title. What do you think? Martin Hogbin (talk) 12:12, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Agree with your edits. It looks better now. Good job . - DVdm (talk) 13:47, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Dark Forest listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Dark Forest. Since you had some involvement with the Dark Forest redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. RJaguar3 | u | t 02:44, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Floating_point:Talk

Please assume good faith in your dealings with other editors. Assume that they are here to improve rather than harm Misplaced Pages.

You remove a post in Floating Point discussion because of tone (removal is not allowed especially under response to tone reason, which is considered ill-behaving), keep interpreting my post as "personal attack" (which is misinterpretation and debatable at least but assuming bad faith undoubtedly) and use my talk page to threaten me (with ban) in the end, instead of discussing the substance. You therefore grossly stand up against justice and multiple Misplaced Pages politeness rules. --Javalenok (talk) 12:24, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

You were warned for this three times now. What you say here, is not acceptable. You will not be able to improve Misplaced Pages when you call other editors idiots. Continue this, and you will get blocked. - DVdm (talk) 12:27, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

I am responsible for every mine word. You called me to discuss it but it was obvious that you are not discussing anything from very beginning. Your job is to disregard the substance. The guise of politeness/respect is extremely useful here. The phrase, extracted from the context, will undoubtedly make idiots happy that "personal attack" was confirmed. They hear "idiot" or "crap" and immediatly understand everything. Idiots certainly know that there cannot be idiots and crap in real words and, therefore, any use of these words exposes "a personal attack". They cannot distinguish logical inference from from personal attack (ungrounded argument), as normal people. It is really pity that Misplaced Pages targets such audience, perpetuating the insanity in the World, eventhough the opposite mission is declared. --Javalenok (talk) 12:51, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

If you don't like the way Misplaced Pages works, you are free to go elsewhere. If you cannot adapt to the way Misplaced Pages works, you will be forced to go elsewhere. DVdm (talk) 13:34, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Go fuck you self, owner. --Javalenok (talk) 09:32, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Real estate in Italy

Real estate in Italy Why should be canceled or must have a consent an article that every nation has? the article still needs to be completed, with numerous art historical references, and current data, sales trends, and many other details. 79.50.122.82 (talk) 17:03, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps, but this should be discussed at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Real estate in Italy, not here. Good luck. - DVdm (talk) 17:06, 22 February 2015 (UTC)