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It's my belief that the above subject is silly and blown out of all proportion. Why? I have no idea, but it's a big fire that is being stoked by a few editors who's agenda one can only speculate upon. I've stayed out of it until recently, but it now seems, that if a female editor takes against a male editor (for reason's best to known unto herself) she needs to receive special treatment and the Arbcom support this view. I don't agree with that. I believe that, in the civilized Western World - where most of us edit, women are equal to men, but I also believe that men are equal to women. Giano (talk) 19:12, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Quickie drive by

Dropping in to say hello! I fell in love with your hummingbird, and cloned it for my user page. Hope that's ok? Atsme☯ 17:01, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

You're welcome Atsme, but he's actually a very rare and endangered Italian Freedom Bird, and his name is Spumoni. Like many male birds, he's far more colorful than his mate. The species is known for it's fearless and protective nature, but beware when he or any of his feathered friends are attacked, he has a very nasty peck. By sharing, you are making the species less endangered. Giano (talk) 17:09, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
Would it help if I told you I was Italian? Mamma is 100% - grandparents didn't speak English. Can I please keep it? Atsme☯ 17:12, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
Yes, but you must take great care of him, and take full responsibility if he attacks any visiting idiots to your page. Giano (talk) 17:14, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
I promise I will, and I will make sure he isn't overworked which is why I added him to my user page and not my talk page. It's all I can do to keep visiting idiots out of my life, never mind my page. Atsme☯ 17:17, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Tracy Park

This building that was an influence on Black Beauty with Grade II listed entrance gates has had an "unfortunate" history of copyvios and revdels and is now sitting as a lonely stub. It could do with some TLC from a few willing volunteers. Are you in? Ritchie333 19:14, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I think I can do that one, and use Pevsner. However, I can't do all that complicated referencing the article uses - far too stressful. Giano (talk) 20:35, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
I can loan you a pentagram and some candles if you'd like? Ritchie333 21:01, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
Just so long as I'm not required to write anything about golf courses. As a game, I don't dislike golf - I play it myself (sort of), but I do dislike the people who tend to inhabit golf clubs. The men are usually badly dressed, pompous oiks full of pretentious bonhomie and the women even worse - far worse - usually suffering from a complete charm by-pass. Golf clubs seem to bring out the worst in people. Giano (talk) 13:08, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
Don't get me started. I have spent years as a gigging musician playing functions in golf clubs, the most notorious being one where you cannot get the gear from outside onto the stage without lugging the whole lot up a fire escape. In fact, File:Fatar studiologic sl 990 xp.jpg was taken at the bottom of said fire escape after I thought I was buggered if I was going to lug that up a flight of stairs again. Ritchie333 15:02, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
I can imagine golfing people all jigging about to music - all those thin faced women with big mouths and teeth and bobbed peroxided hair dancing with their braying menfolk with badly cut hair hair and protruding stomachs. Giano (talk) 15:40, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
There is a photo of me somewhere on the internet after playing piano for a society church service where, due to a tragic miscalculation of dress sense and a lack of sunglasses, I look unchangingly like a Conservative MP. Ritchie333 15:52, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
If you'd like me to check over the references after you've finished updating, I'd be more than happy to do that and I'll ensure that they fit with the current style used. Just ping me. Cheers --RexxS (talk) 15:32, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
That might be a very good idea. At the moment, I'm still researching it - quite fascinating. I'll ping you when I'm done. Thanks
The article is in good hands now - excellent. Ritchie333 15:52, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
I think RexxS without more info, I've done about all I can there - over to you. Giano (talk) 16:10, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
Hi Giano, I've started to add information about the house in the Estates section, but I've only included a description of the western facade, the extensions to the left and the tower to the right. The remaining Gothicy sides ought to be described, but I'm a bit out of my depth on that part, especially as I've never seen it and don't have a copy of Pevsner to hand. It would also be nice if there was a quote by him to summarise the architecture - the house is quite a jigsaw, and I'm not sure all the pieces fit together :) Anyway, many thanks, (talk) 23:09, 22 February 2015 (UTC).
—Noswall59I thought I'd already described the architecture, some of it's now in the history section. It's not so much a jigsaw - as poor architecture. One has to be careful of being too POV even Pevsner's (which is actually Verey and Brooks') and confine oneself to the occasional "heavy", "incongruous" and "loose form of Grecian/Gothic/Tudor" and hope people get the message. There's no point giving to detailed a descriprion, but I'll expand a little later today. We've got to be careful not to rush too fast at this, if you look at this picture here that small, single story section sandwiched between the main house and the colonnade is probably real, genuine 17th century Palladianism. Not quite Inigo Jones, but not far off, and streets above the architecture elsewhere. If I'm correct, that rather disputes the former house as being gabled Tudoresque. More research I think, but we are running out of resources. Giano (talk) 08:27, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
As far as I can see, that part of the house is not mentioned in Pevsner, nor in Kingsley. The English Heritage listing explicitly states it's 19th century. Kingsley says the following: "In 1595 the park was sold off by the Tracys, and in the next few years a house was built there that later acquired the name Well House. This was a small gabled building, which by 1718 apparently possessed a hall and kitchen on the ground floor and three chambers above'". He mentions no further changes until the alterations made by the younger Robert Bush c. 1800. At the end of the day, if the sources don't exist, we can't say otherwise; plus, if it were a worthy example of Palladianism, it is surprising that the Pevsner authors make no mention of it. (It might be that it was part of the alterations made by Bush, but that's pure conjecture on my part). With that in mind, I think much of the architectural description is well on its way to be complete, and the history section too seems to be getting there nicely. We still need sources for the freemasonry part, though. Anyway, many thanks, —Noswall59 (talk) 19:01, 23 February 2015 (UTC).
Oh there' no hurry, you'd be surprised what turns up eventually - which part of the Freemasonry part are you unhappy with? At the end of the day, a Freemasonry symbol is just that, and if added by the country's leading Freemason to his own home can probably be taken as a safe assumption of Freemasonry. Giano (talk) 21:20, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

I've done a first pass over the refs - there wasn't much to do as they were already quite tidy. The only problem is I can't find the book referred to as "Verey and Brooks 1980, p. 808" - the current reference number 9. Is that an earlier edition of the 2002 book? Cheers --RexxS (talk) 16:49, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

I've altered this ref - it is the 2002 edition. Cheers, —Noswall59 (talk) 17:36, 23 February 2015 (UTC).

February 2015

Stop icon This is your only warning; if you make personal attacks on other people again, as you did at User talk:Rationalobserver, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. — Coffee // have a cup // beans // 21:37, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Just curious...are you going to warn RO for targeting another user on your talk, Coffee? Civil hit requests are still hit requests, after all. Intothatdarkness 21:42, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
RO did not attack that user, they simply said that I should pay attention to their edits. As I have RO's edits on constant refresh, I'd say I'm fairly on top of whether she is or is not violating our policies here. Currently, she is not. — Coffee // have a cup // beans // 21:47, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
(ec)Thanks. You might also want to consider paying attention to the conduct that leads up to those suggestions. Not criticizing; just pointing out that it is possible to conduct those campaigns without cursing or open attacks. Intothatdarkness 21:51, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Ah coffee, you may be able to help: I remember once when I was a boy at school, clandestinely watching a totally shocking film where nuns masturbated while a handsome priest was burn at the stake. I doubt Eric is very handsome, but tonight I am minded of that film. can anyone remember its name - I think it may have had Jeanne Moreau in it? Giano (talk) 21:50, 27 February 2015 (UTC)