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Azeri name

@HistoryofIran: @Parishan: Accusing other editors of vandalism is not helpful at all. Since the person was Turkic and the tribe to which he belonged played a role in the ethnogenesis of the Azerbaijani people, I see no problem in having an Azeri name along with a Persian one. --Kober 11:33, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

"Played a role in the ethnogenesis of the Azerbaijani people". Not really, we can thank the Russians for that when they conquered parts of northern Iran. It was there the Azerbaijani group was formed. --HistoryofIran (talk) 11:47, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

I'm afraid I don't quite understand what you mean. --Kober 11:53, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

HistoryofIran, I warn you that you are very close to being reported for aggressive and bad-faith editing. Labeling edits, however misguided, as 'vandalism' violates Misplaced Pages:Civility. The Igirmi Durt clan, that was native to what is now the Republic of Azerbaijan and not to Iran (see Islamic Encyclopedia), was key in governing the Beylarbeylik of Karabakh and the subsequent formation of the Azeri-ruled Karabakh Khanate (which had nothing to do with Armenia). As for the Turkic idiom of mediaeval Iran, it is an earlier version of modern Azeri, and any linguistic source on the matter will confirm that: " served as a lingua franca throughout much of the Caucasus region, eastern Turkey, and northwestern Iran from the 16th to the early 20th century". Ethnic Groups of North, East, and Central Asia: An Encyclopedia. I expect counter-arguments that the tribe "had nothing" to do with Azeris; otherwise I will have to undo your edit. Parishan (talk) 12:05, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Aggressive and bad-faith editing? that is very funny, especially the last word, "bad-faith editing". Alright I am sorry for calling you a vandal, can you stop overreacting now and stop accusing me of ridiculous thing such as bad-faith editing? (which is funny since you didn't like when i accused you of being a vandal, yet you accused me of bad-faith editing, i guess we could say that we are even) and only focus on the subject? thank you.

Dude, the source has two pages, can't you for a start tell me what page and what line? By looking at the article, it doesn't really state where his Turkic tribe was from, except that they were fighting for power in Karabakh (which is in Azerbaijan and Armenia). Furthermore, Just because a family is native to Azerbaijan doesn't mean that they should have the Azeri name written on their Wiki article. By using that logic, we should add the Azeri name on the Urdubadi family and many articles, which is simply not right. About the last source: So what? I am quite sure that the source isn't even reliable. --HistoryofIran (talk) 13:34, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

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